King Emperor
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- Jan 12, 2018
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So I've been playing Civ 3 for a while now, and got Civ 5 a while back because a friend recommended it, saying it was much better.
I played it a little but couldn't get into it and went back to Civ 3, but I'm having another crack at Civ 5 at the moment.
Here are some reasons why I like Civ 3:
1. The beginning expansion phase. I like exploring, finding new luxuries and resources and trying to claim them before my neighbors- who are always actively expanding. The AI grabs up every piece of land as soon as it can. I like the sense of competition and the feeling when you claim a luxury/resource. It's also great to find new islands before the AI, whether by taking the risk of traversing a few sea/ocean tiles, getting the Great Lighthouse wonder, or by researching relevant techs (navigation?) before the AI.
2. The luxuries/resources. These are clearly marked on the map and offer clear benefits. It's fun to claim them, and it's also fun to look for strategic resources like coal, rubber and oil when you research the required tech. For example, you research Steam Power, and then you look around and think "Yes! I've got lots of coal!" or "Oh no...No coal, but France has some. Maybe I can get Right of Passage, send a few workers over to build roads, and then give them the Steam Power tech so I can trade with them."
3. Contacting new civs. It's great to finally cross the oceans and discover the other AI players and see how far ahead/behind they are, and also to trade techs and resources with them.
4. Researching techs, and getting their benefits before the other civs.
I suppose a like discovering and getting things, like a monkey having a dopamine kick when it finds some mangoes.
My problem with Civ 5 is that as far as I can tell, the things I like about Civ 3 are entirely absent. Admittedly I don't know much about the game yet. Contacting another civ doesn't seem like a big deal. Exploring and finding new islands also doesn't seem so important- there's no sense of urgency to claim the land because the other civs aren't expanding so much. Researching new techs also doesn't carry with it the sense of achievement because as far as I know you can't compare what techs you have to other civs. Also the resources on the map naturally merge with the terrain itself, rather than being represented as icons, and to me that means it loses its sense of importance, plus I'm not sure of the importance of the resources in the first place.
I want to like this game, so my question is where does the enjoyment come from, for you? To be honest when playing Civ 3 I'm a warmonger and every game devolves into me eventually gaining military dominance and then taking out the other civs. With Civ 5, do I need to "roleplay"?? i.e. decide to myself "Right, I'm going to create a peaceful civilization which will spread it's religion around the world!"
Thanks for your help!
I played it a little but couldn't get into it and went back to Civ 3, but I'm having another crack at Civ 5 at the moment.
Here are some reasons why I like Civ 3:
1. The beginning expansion phase. I like exploring, finding new luxuries and resources and trying to claim them before my neighbors- who are always actively expanding. The AI grabs up every piece of land as soon as it can. I like the sense of competition and the feeling when you claim a luxury/resource. It's also great to find new islands before the AI, whether by taking the risk of traversing a few sea/ocean tiles, getting the Great Lighthouse wonder, or by researching relevant techs (navigation?) before the AI.
2. The luxuries/resources. These are clearly marked on the map and offer clear benefits. It's fun to claim them, and it's also fun to look for strategic resources like coal, rubber and oil when you research the required tech. For example, you research Steam Power, and then you look around and think "Yes! I've got lots of coal!" or "Oh no...No coal, but France has some. Maybe I can get Right of Passage, send a few workers over to build roads, and then give them the Steam Power tech so I can trade with them."
3. Contacting new civs. It's great to finally cross the oceans and discover the other AI players and see how far ahead/behind they are, and also to trade techs and resources with them.
4. Researching techs, and getting their benefits before the other civs.
I suppose a like discovering and getting things, like a monkey having a dopamine kick when it finds some mangoes.
My problem with Civ 5 is that as far as I can tell, the things I like about Civ 3 are entirely absent. Admittedly I don't know much about the game yet. Contacting another civ doesn't seem like a big deal. Exploring and finding new islands also doesn't seem so important- there's no sense of urgency to claim the land because the other civs aren't expanding so much. Researching new techs also doesn't carry with it the sense of achievement because as far as I know you can't compare what techs you have to other civs. Also the resources on the map naturally merge with the terrain itself, rather than being represented as icons, and to me that means it loses its sense of importance, plus I'm not sure of the importance of the resources in the first place.
I want to like this game, so my question is where does the enjoyment come from, for you? To be honest when playing Civ 3 I'm a warmonger and every game devolves into me eventually gaining military dominance and then taking out the other civs. With Civ 5, do I need to "roleplay"?? i.e. decide to myself "Right, I'm going to create a peaceful civilization which will spread it's religion around the world!"
Thanks for your help!