Lexicus
Deity
Tend to doubt it, there aren't many actual reds around.
Political Compass IV
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Tend to doubt it, there aren't many actual reds around.
Ajidica
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As a trivial aside... while I recognize that red is certainly an appropriate colour for authoritarian socialism and/or "left"... for the purposes of USA #1, which is all that matters obviously... I wish the blue and red quadrants were switched, as it would suit my USA-centric worldview better because here the Republicans are the "reds" and the Democrats are the "blues"
EDIT: The PC tests are definitely skewed toward a mid 2000s view of social libertarianism which seems to be at increasing odds with the social concerns of 2020, and the economic questions aren't particularly subtle; skewing things toward the lower left.
Yes... yes they do... don't they? They say they do... They wouldn't lie... would they?
Berzerker
Deity
one of these tests offered the results for various politicians, they were typically in the upper right quadrant.
bernie14
Filter Manipulator
Many years ago, it was not set that way, some stations had the dems as red and the repubs as blue. I guess the mmm settled on repubs as red cuz the other way would have been way to obviousAs a trivial aside... while I recognize that red is certainly an appropriate colour for authoritarian socialism and/or "left"... for the purposes of USA #1, which is all that matters obviously
Zardnaar
Deity
Many years ago, it was not set that way, some stations had the dems as red and the repubs as blue. I guess the mmm settled on repubs as red cuz the other way would have been way to obvious
Changed around 1996 iirc.
Before then it varies by channel iirc.
Lohrenswald
世界的 bottom ranked physicist
Don't fully remember where I used to be. Don't think I've ever gotten that far left before.
Some of it might be I recently got unnaturally gay.
Anyway a lot of people have pointed out a bunch of flaws in this thread. I don't have much to add to that, but I think it's important
To the extent I think it's time to just drop this thing. I honestly don't want to see it or think about it anymore.
I think these kinds of quizzes can be fun, but I would want to take almost anything else at this point.
I also think, that if there is more to politics than just left-right, that this scheme isn't it, and something better should be thought of
amadeus
burning out his fuse out here alone
R = Republican, redMany years ago, it was not set that way, some stations had the dems as red and the repubs as blue. I guess the mmm settled on repubs as red cuz the other way would have been way to obvious
I contend the Democrats need to change their name to the Bemocrats. The only logical solution to this problem.
What’d I come here for? Oh yeah, we should have a new test, maybe there could be some kind of weighting mechanism. Right now, if I want pot to be legal but gays to not be, this test would call me a moderate.
Josu
Emperor
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82
The elder I get, the more left I am in this chart....
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82
The elder I get, the more left I am in this chart....
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
I've been kind of hesitant to post my results since I know I'd be chased out, again.
Economic Left/Right: 3.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
I'm surprised that despite the woke SJWs leaving a bad taste in my mouth in the past five years, that I'm still close on the central X axis.
Economic Left/Right: 3.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
I'm surprised that despite the woke SJWs leaving a bad taste in my mouth in the past five years, that I'm still close on the central X axis.
Zardnaar
Deity
I've been kind of hesitant to post my results since I know I'd be chased out, again.
Economic Left/Right: 3.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
I'm surprised that despite the woke SJWs leaving a bad taste in my mouth in the past five years, that I'm still close on the central X axis.
At least you're honest.
Woke SJWs leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth lol.
Alot are fairly clueless and counter productive. Much like any ideology I suppose.
Ajidica
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Why would you be chased out? Unlike a gothic horror novel, there are no peasants coming to the castle with pitchforks, and the mods here have a pretty strict no flaming rule enforcement.
bernie14
Filter Manipulator
i'd say about the same as the number number of fascists
Lexicus
Deity
Definitely off by a couple-three orders of magnitude but okay
gangleri2001
Garbage day!!!
Economic Left/Right: 6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92
I find it quite weird that not being authoritarian makes me more libertarian.
If you believe in strong societal tolerance & bonding and resent strongly authoritarian leadership... does that make me someone against authorities ???
When authority is based on and given by society... why would I be against authority ???
When someone is an expert in a field of knowledge... why would I not accept that person as an authority on that field of knowledge ???
I think that when you define libertarian as opposite to authoritarian... you basically create the opposition between organised governing and not-organised governing (is that not anarchy ???).
I would put it down to reducing a very complex mix of political opinions down to two dimensions, and then labelling those dimensions with words that are well recognised, rather than words that really accurately capture the effects that are measured. It is quite possible that there is no good word for the dimension plotted, so they went for words that is well known and would be vaguely in the direction of the extremes of the axis.
I understand that
And simplication is almost always a two-edged knife (to analyse).
But considering that at least here on this forum almost everybody flocks in the non-authoritarian & leftish quadrant, it raises the question whether the used words are meaningful enough.
You could also use small state versus big state.
Many here believe in a big state with the state supplying all kinds of social rights (housing, education, care, insurance, etc, etc), but believe at the same time in a small state when it is about intervening in their personal environment.
Without knowing what questions effect which axis (and how) it is hard to work out exactly what they do mean, but from my recollection of the questions and my guess of their effects I think they mostly mean the state "intervening in their personal environment" rather than providing a social safety net.
