"If you don't like a civ don't play it"
The problem is I DO like the Shoshone. I like the big border blob and the aggressive-defensive playstyle of forward settling civs, trying to coax them into a war on your (massive) land where you get omnipresent chip damage and large CS bonuses to bleed them out. What I don't like is that playstyle being held hostage by these thoroughly irritating, mediocre ruins bonuses, which these proposals propose to blow up into a larger part of the civ's power budget, and into something that is even more unavoidable and intrusive. Furthermore it now upgrades this wretched mechanic into chronic gameplay herpes that I need to mod out in the game files every new version to be rid of it.