DiabolicX
Chieftain
Yeah, personally, I'm more upset about my 49ers right now
Bear flag republic? 49'rs, cmon. Its about the giants right now.
Yeah, personally, I'm more upset about my 49ers right now
I'm more disappointed with professional game reviewers than Firaxis. With the amount of bugs that Civ5 shipped with, it should at best gotten 85%. Throw in subpar AI, missing features like demolishing/selling buildings, the WORST game engine optimization (there's no way this game should run slower than Napoleon Total War or Crysis), and a barely functional multiplayer; this game should at best received a 75-80%, not the 90% it currently holds on metacritics.
I am.Definitely angry. Are you done projecting or should I tell you now that I don't even have the game?
Bear flag republic? 49'rs, cmon. Its about the giants right now.
We (the Civ series player base) expected alot more
This is part of why the people who like Civ take the complaining personally; the complainers love to set themselves up as speaking for the Civ series player base, which of course implies that anyone who likes the game is not a true fan of the series. Then there's the 'this game is dumbed down' complaint, which of course means that if you like the game you're dumb and like dumbed down stuff. Telling people that you speak for all true fans and that they're stupid and incompetent at playing is not a good way to get a good reception.
I don't want to speak for everyone here - but I know how I feel, and I think it may be similar (at least in part) to how others feel as well.
We (the Civ series player base) expected alot more out of Civ V. The series, as a whole, was always progressive - mostly.
Civilization captured our minds, it kept us glued to our monitors for hours, and days at a time... a revolution in Strategy gaming.
Then there's the 'this game is dumbed down' complaint, which of course means that if you like the game you're dumb and like dumbed down stuff.
if you like the game you're dumb
It seems to me that many people here think that Civ5 being under par is a personal attack against their rights as gamers.
Now I really hesitate to make a claim like that, but I've been noticing some very disturbing trends that I just can't ignore any longer.
I've seen people here:
-Grossly exaggerating the shortcomings of the game
-Insulting the game developers
-Accusing the publishers of ripping them off
-Attempting to send a message that the game is unacceptable
-Making snide comments or insults against people simply for enjoying or trying to enjoy the game
-Celebrating when others don't like the game
-Nit picking on minor shortcomings to the extreme
And the list goes on. I think it's clear from the general attitude of the board that people aren't just disappointed but are angry.
So why is it so different here? What makes people think they deserve a good game from Civ5 or even a game at all? The gamer doesn't have any rights. You either buy/play the game or you don't. Why does there have to be so much personal emotion behind it?
You don't want to speak for everyone here, but then you continue by stating "We (the Civ series player base)" and phrases like "as a playerbase and community" and the royal "we". So, apparently you do intend to speak for the Civ player base. In which case, I'd like to say, you don't.
Twice in the post, I used the "I/we" pronoun(s)... coupled with the first line of my post, I don't see the mis-communication.
If I had said "I, the Civ player base", there would have been an equal amount of uproar...
"You're not the only person who plays!" - "It's not just about you!", etc, etc...
It seems that my literary compromise didn't fare as well as the problem I was trying to overcome.
It's a shame that we have to put labels and disclaimers on EVERYTHING we do nowadays... it's even more frustrating when the disclaimers get ignored.
Stop reading my mind and telling me what to do!
Agree 100% with the OP.
Buy the game or don't buy it, but stop whining and crying like little kids.
You're not entitled to anything, anf Firaxis owes you nothing. They make the game that they want, get over it.
Loving Civ 5 by the way.
Sure - just tell me when the delivery guy will be here with the pizza. And yes, you got the toppings right
Enjoy the game or don't enjoy the game but stop whining about people supposedly "whining" about the game.