very very bad lag after installing new patch

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i was being playing civilization v earlier this morning and it be running fine then i installed the patch and it is all laggy now, it doesn't matter if its in an old save or a new game, everything is just really laggy with everything, especially unit animations.
 
Can I ask if you have any mods enabled? Also, could you post the first couple pages of your dxdiag (down through audio is fine).

Thanks!
 
I have exactly the same issue since the patch. Even when starting on a new tiny map, everything is really laggy.
I also have the impression the level of detail has increased a lot, even with everything set on Low or Minimum.


Below my dxdiag report:
Spoiler :
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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/15/2012, 12:00:39
Machine name: JOACHIM-CROM
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Dell System Vostro 3450
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6038MB RAM
Page File: 3222MB used, 8851MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6630M
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x6741)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6741&SUBSYS_04C51028&REV_00
Display Memory: 3773 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1010 MB
Shared Memory: 2763 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Algemeen PnP-beeldscherm
Monitor Model: DELL P2210
Monitor Id: DEL404E
Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.883Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1072 (English)
Driver Version: 8.840.7.3000
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/12/2011 08:56:46, 788480 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2401-11CF-CBF8-C424A9C2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x6741
SubSys ID: 0x04C51028
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem147.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_VancouverA_PXAI:8.840.7.3000:pci\ven_1002&dev_6741&subsys_04c51028
Rank Of Driver: 00E60001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0269&SUBSYS_102804C5&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6312 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 2/19/2011 03:59:46, 2748520 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microfoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6312 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 2/19/2011 03:59:46, 2748520 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Muis
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Toetsenbord
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: KTG Office Dock
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x17E9, 0x4032
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
 
Could you please start by updating your drivers? They are a bit out of date. This is most likely not your problem, but I want to eliminate it as a possibility. Thanks!
 
- The Dell support tool says these are the lastest version
- I can't install newer generic AMD Radeon drivers, it won't let me
 
ok, thanks for the help!
In the meantime I found some generic drivers from AMD, but they didn't change anything to the problem.
 
Issue here, too. It's not exactly the grafics lagging but the game itself. I. E. Iclick on Next Round and there's 1-2 seconds with nothing happening, then the game either tells me some unit needs orders or doesn't react at all until I click again.
That's new with the patch and very annoying since it breaks the gameflow quite massively :-[

Otoh, the new Cottages look very nice ;-)

Gesendet von meinem Optimus 2X mit Tapatalk 2
 
Running the newest patch on an i7 quadcore with 12GB of RAM, i am noticing a lag between turns that did not exist prepatch. I am also noticing a lag when I try to specialize workers in the city screen, or when i add buildings to by queue.

In addition when I a viewing a city and move to the next city using the arrow keys, I do not actually move to that city, but view it while still seeing the build queue of the previous one.

I have checked to see if my nvidia drivers are up to date, and I am told that I am running the newest drivers. I am also running NO mods.
 
I find the game still sluggish and just off. When I click to move a unit to a cs the infor screen comes up before the unit even reaches the cs border. Seems to be sluggish between optimizing the turns and keeping the game flow even.
 
dshirk said:
Can I ask if you have any mods enabled? Also, could you post the first couple pages of your dxdiag (down through audio is fine).

Thanks!
Click to expand...

Please remind me how to post the dxdiag (can't recall where to find it) and I will later this afternoon.
 
Are the system requirements for G&K suppose to be more demanding? Is the expectation that everytime a new game comes out that one has to update their computer systems?
 
Specialforces said:
I find the game still sluggish and just off. When I click to move a unit to a cs the infor screen comes up before the unit even reaches the cs border. Seems to be sluggish between optimizing the turns and keeping the game flow even.
Click to expand...

One of the changes we made is moving the gamecore to it's own thread, which allowed us to do things like allowing the player to interact with UI in between turns, toggle animations mid-game, etc.

There appears to be some UI areas (like the city state pop-up you mentioned) where the display is not quite in sync with the unit that triggers it.
 
dshirk said:
One of the changes we made is moving the gamecore to it's own thread, which allowed us to do things like allowing the player to interact with UI in between turns, toggle animations mid-game, etc.

There appears to be some UI areas (like the city state pop-up you mentioned) where the display is not quite in sync with the unit that triggers it.
Click to expand...

That is great to know... so how do I get it to sync better? What changes do I have to make to allow the units and city management screens to sync. This current system with the patch just makes the game almost unplayable for the delay and missed clicks to set screen settings. Plus not knowing how well a unit is damaged with the HP bar not being as accurate or just to slow to react.
 
dshirk said:
One of the changes we made is moving the gamecore to it's own thread, which allowed us to do things like allowing the player to interact with UI in between turns, toggle animations mid-game, etc.

There appears to be some UI areas (like the city state pop-up you mentioned) where the display is not quite in sync with the unit that triggers it.
Click to expand...

By doing this have you asked computers to operate faster? If so this goes against optimizing a system for performance. The key with any game programming is to make the system sync and operate faster even with lower system requirements.

A developer can always make a program function differently with more RAM and better systems but that is not the challenge. The Challenge for any gamer is to make it better with less. Take some hints from military and aviation programmers.
 
Barak said:
Please remind me how to post the dxdiag (can't recall where to find it) and I will later this afternoon.
Click to expand...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=379992#5
Q.) "Please provide a Dxdiag." What does this mean, how do i do that?

Hit the "Windows key" and "R", type in Dxdiag, hit enter. A menu will appear, with a save option at the right bottom. Do this, save it as a file and attach it here. We are able to see what system and drivers you have with this file.
Click to expand...
 
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