The yield of GM and GS is quite similar in this stage, since GS will get a lot extra beaker from citizens from a huge empire, while GM won't give much due to small size of current capital and AI city. When you calculate the yield from GM, it's not number of turns of full research * beaker output, you have to consider the cash which can be produce in 0% slider.
SGOTM 16 - Plastic Ducks
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The yield of GM and GS is quite similar in this stage, since GS will get a lot extra beaker from citizens from a huge empire, while GM won't give much due to small size of current capital and AI city. When you calculate the yield from GM, it's not number of turns of full research * beaker output, you have to consider the cash which can be produce in 0% slider.
I lost one cat at 75% to barbs, one cannon at 94%, and threw cats at top defender at Dur without causing damage. It is obvious Duckweed and soundjata should do all the field work. sossos gets favirable GPs and you and me should go grab a beer.
Whatever gold we don't have to generate with low slider or by building wealth can be directly applied to multipliers later on; when Paris gets large so will the GM trade mission. Any large city+harbor will give a great return (Mecca for example, maybe we should feed Saladin some resources to let him grow large cities?)... OR, we can move the capital to a large coastal city+Harbor and possibly get even more (Orleans).
When should we launch next GA if you don't get 4th GS from Rh? Needs a bit estimation. Anyway, will be more clear at that time. Free to go when you are ready.
Confu and Tao missionaries should get priority (need galleons bridge) since we won't stay on OR for long and there's big odd of failure.
Confu and Tao missionaries should get priority (need galleons bridge) since we won't stay on OR for long and there's big odd of failure.
From Rheims? It's a disaster actually.
Since there will be no GA, no Pacifism, it takes up to t209.
Without starving, Orleans can get a 100%-non GS by t205.
I'm not done on the gpp part, there remains a lot to be calculated. Of course, most cities can be set to grow at this point in time so I could just ignore it and play after setting Orleans' micro.
Since there will be no GA, no Pacifism, it takes up to t209.
Without starving, Orleans can get a 100%-non GS by t205.
I'm not done on the gpp part, there remains a lot to be calculated. Of course, most cities can be set to grow at this point in time so I could just ignore it and play after setting Orleans' micro.
These 2 posts have me confused
How have we got from before 239 to 233 ?I would not risk of launching a T209 GAge on Rheims's odds of getting a non-GS.
Either we have Orleans pop before and use Rheims for the next GP, or Orleans pops on T210 for backup...
What's the problem?
What I meant in the 1st post was that if we want to run 4 GP GA, it's T239 to get the full potential of GAs, while 1 less GA and launching in T209 means T233 to get the full advantage of GA
If you could manage T210 Orleans GP, that's good.
What I meant in the 1st post was that if we want to run 4 GP GA, it's T239 to get the full potential of GAs, while 1 less GA and launching in T209 means T233 to get the full advantage of GA
If you could manage T210 Orleans GP, that's good.
shakabrade
Praise Vivec!
T233 victory is, actually, possible. Just did Maths and it didn't work. But if we get only one culture bomb in Paris, it is possible, and with two, it is probable (every GArtist is worth 3.5 turns). I focused only on culture, believing research will be taken care of.
Alrighty then, this looks slightly less bleak than I thought it did. We will pull through I have no doubt.
It's a wonder how a generous map can make such a big difference even when the world is covered in fallout.
Oracle>Civil Service is very strong and
resources early on as well.
I'll resume playing shortly, tech path set to Mining Inc as currently is.
It's a wonder how a generous map can make such a big difference even when the world is covered in fallout.
Oracle>Civil Service is very strong and
resources early on as well.I'll resume playing shortly, tech path set to Mining Inc as currently is.
I checked 2 turns ago and there was no city of his with a large sabotage production EP value. I'll check again after diner. I'll play 1~2 more turns to finish off Ram (last city is a stronghold) and then upload to re-evaluate. Unless you'd rather I upload now? (I'll check in 5 mins)
