Quackers
The Frog
Absolutely. There are many crazy arguments for Moyes which do not make sense, this is another one.
There is a great conspiracy theory which states that Ferguson appointed Moyes in order to enhance his own legacy.....nutters.
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Absolutely. There are many crazy arguments for Moyes which do not make sense, this is another one.
There is a great conspiracy theory which states that Ferguson appointed Moyes in order to enhance his own legacy.....nutters.
Quackers
The Frog
Anybody getting the Panini World Cup Sticker Album? 
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Pretty big... if you're a 12-year-old.
Quackers
The Frog
Couldn't possibly say. As a kid only a few people I knew would get the album. I had the '02 and '04 ones. In contrast to say the crazes of Yu-Gi-Oh cards and Pokemon cards it's really small.
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Well, in Spain it was an autumn fad. Every year when the Liga began and the album was out everyone would buy stickers and exchange them in the playground and stuff.
BirraImperial
Pura Vida!
It's pretty big in here, as in most of Latin America. I can't bring myself to do it, I just don't care. I had the one from 2002.
Oh, stop moaning, these matches last 180 minutes and it would be no shame to exit the competition in the semifinals against Real Madrid anyway. Every single time Bayern lose, you complain about their gameplay the style Beckenbauer lauds is only justified when the team using it wins, Guardiola's will still be beautiful football anyway.
BirraImperial
Pura Vida!
I'll complain as many times as I please. And losing to Real Madrid is not the problem, losing because you play crappy, boring, unimaginative football with barely any chances on goal is.
Quackers
The Frog
Bayern are a worse side to watch than last year.
Tiki-Taka is awful.
Tiki-Taka is awful.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Anybody getting the Panini World Cup Sticker Album?
I am more interested in World Cup Prizm coming out.
And there it is. I don't know if it'll be City or Chelsea (the latter's defeat against Sunderland was a genuine shock, and if they don't end up as champions, that will be the reason), but the reds are done. Frankly, I'm amazed that anybody but the most blinkered Liverpool supporter didn't see it coming.
On Moyes: I don't understand people saying United didn't give him enough time. I'd say it's obvious they gave him far too much. Being extremely charitable indeed, you might say it was unclear whether he was up to the job until the new year (though I'd agree with Mise that he looked out of his depth from the word go). By the end of January, though, it was only wishful thinking that kept anyone from realising that he'd made an irrevocable mess of pretty much every aspect of the job, and that this wasn't merely a few bumps in the road, but a full-blown managerial car crash.
Quackers
The Frog
I wouldn't rule out Liverpool yet Winston. There stock has dramatically fallen since that defeat yet one slip up by Manchester City and the pendulum swings back in Anfield's favour. City have to travel too Everton at some point and while their recent results against Southampton and Palace have been so poor they always up their game for the big guns.
On the issue of Moyes, I found a quote by me from last september:
I really hedged my bets in that post I concede; I was right on performances but totally wrong on positions. They are 7th!
On the issue of Moyes, I found a quote by me from last september:
I really hedged my bets in that post I concede; I was right on performances but totally wrong on positions. They are 7th!
BirraImperial
Pura Vida!
Embarrassing performance, totally outclassed by Real Madrid. Ancellotti has absolutely destroyed Guardiola's tactics. I feared a repeat of last week's defeat, but nothing like this. Oh well, there's always next season.
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
When you are chasing this kind of score is not uncommon. Real Madrid have much better players than Bayern anyway and play in a much stronger league (though that will change in the coming years).
Gucumatz
JS, secretly Rod Serling
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Oh pfft "far better players". Real was getting schooled by 2 retirees and half a team of reserve youth players called up from the 4th division of German football [Dortmund reserves from Dortmund II the youth team] against Dortmund.
If a team that falls apart against 4th division players like they did - I am not sure how you can argue them as better players. Real won - but don't kid yourself that Bayern has been having issues in the last few weeks due to recent rotations (A draw, bad losses against Augsburg, Dortmund, and shaky play against Bremen). A bad spot but far from "much better players". This is pretty much the same team as last year, just played in a completely different fashion. [See midfielder Lahm, Martinez in defense, Boateng with lack of support, etc.]
If a team that falls apart against 4th division players like they did - I am not sure how you can argue them as better players. Real won - but don't kid yourself that Bayern has been having issues in the last few weeks due to recent rotations (A draw, bad losses against Augsburg, Dortmund, and shaky play against Bremen). A bad spot but far from "much better players". This is pretty much the same team as last year, just played in a completely different fashion. [See midfielder Lahm, Martinez in defense, Boateng with lack of support, etc.]
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
I'm a fan of neither team, Gucumatz. But if you look at both teams, how many Bayern players would get in the Real team? I don't think it's even close. Bayern work very well as a team and a system, but player for player I'm not even convinced they're as good as Chelsea.
