Sid Vicious and The Magnificent 7+1

T6: 610AD Jumbos are marching, ETA 2T for the 1st wave. Get 16g from the French for 1gpt so we can upgrade 1 more horse.


IBT: No counters from the Vikings, they must be occupied

T7: 620AD Getting closer. That’s 2 stacks of 10 WE’s, with a couple of stragglers in-between.


IBT: Vikings don’t get much pressure @ Trondheim as only 1 musket defends.

T8: 630AD Decide to take a shot and throw our 10WE’s at Trondheim
WE kills musket (1/5)
WE retreats from musket (3/4)
WE retreats from musket without scratching it (3/4)
WE kills musket (3/5)
WE retreats from musket (2/4)
WE kills spear (4/5)
WE kills musket (3/5) and we take the city! We even had 3 War Elephants to spare!
Crap, I was so happy, I forgot to take a pic Well, here is a pic of us holding it.



Now, should I take Copenhagen, losing some WE’s for a town we won’t want later? Decide that would be silly, start moving some WE’s back to home, so we can get ready to take on the French.

IBT: we gain Monarchy, Engineering, Invention, Gunpowder, Printing Press, Education, Banking, Chemistry, Democracy, Economics, Navigation, Physics, Free Artistry, ToG, Magnetism, Mil Tradition, Nationalism, Steam, Medicine, Communism, Industrialization, Electricity, Corporation, Facism



T9: 640AD No coal connected but there’s a source near Indus. No salt but there’s some near the French city of Rouen.
This is a good, natural breaking point. We should discuss what we want to build, accomplish, steal/trade or research, etc, from here on out. I have moved all the units but the builds may want to be changed, and please verify all flip chances. Also, it’s past my bedtime and Mrs. Grahamiam is giving me the evil eye

lurker's comment: Wow! you did it! But where do you go from here.... i will just wait and see. Good Luck!

Congrats . I knew you could do it. Now it should get interesting. I wonder how much gp worth of tech you just got . Ottoman Saphi should help with your little French problem. My lurking 2c would be banks maybe few SEs or factories-->mobilize--> .

Triumphant squeal of war pigs heard across the contintent.

The circus parade into Trondheim was the best part....all you needed was a big wagon with Ringling Brothers/Barnum & Bailey in gold script on the side with a calliope in the back and it would have been complete.



d-man, you're next in the howdah.

"We are techologically advanced" .

Great job, grahamiam!

Now, what to do next? We definitely need a strong Ottoman Empire, I'd gift Trondheim to them. Don't see us getting that much for our techs, who should afford it? Persia?
Should we try for ToE? France will for sure head to RP next, and I don't think we can fight them without Infantry/Ari. Maybe rush a Factory in our FP city, and start a prebuild? It all depends on when USuf finishes, though.
But then, with Inf/Cavs/Ari, and Factories, mobilization sounds good to me.

lurkers comment:
Whoa. What actually caused that massive influx of techs??
Never seen anything like that.
JJ

What actually caused that massive influx of techs??

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Capturing the Great Library.

Another thought: If we can get hold of Espionage, what about Communism? We have Courts pretty much everywhere already, we need a huge Army, we are REL...

Wow!!!
G-man you have become national Indian hero

I have the save, but i have no idea what to do...
gimme some ideas

The small nation we are Fascism would probably better off than communism for us

If we plan to stay small, we should stay in Republic by all means. Now, if we really go on the rampage, and try to get a substantial part of France, Communism would be actually worthwile. Sid corruption is brutal once you exceed the OCN by a wider margin, that is by far the bigger problem than unit support (which can be handled in Republic as well, by a 'quality over quantity' approach).
Of course, 9 turns of Anarchy will never be worth it, but with a REL Civ, things look different. Could always revolt back to Rep/Demo after the war is over.

Should i start beefing up or army or should i build factories 1st, while we are in GA?
I will hook up coal and salp. We need more workers to rail. We also need iron in addition to coal for railroads.
Are we going to race for ToE?

In any case, I would get infra during GA (Factories at foremost). I wouldn't even get Saltpetre now if we're considering Communism; building Jumbos and upgrading them later is a good use for cash in Comm.

I thought we have Iron now?

ToE - I would try it. It can allways fall to a USuf cascade, but maybe we can use the shields for the CIA by that time.

salt is not within our borders, it's just outside of the French city of Rouen, near Hannibal's retirement home. and yes, we do have a local source of iron.

commie is fine, but let's wait till after the GA. for now, i agree with factories in the core, coal plants too. we have corporation, so we should shoot for banks and stock exchanges as well, allowing us to cascade to wall street or CIA if espionage is known and we fail on the ToA bid. right now, research takes a very long time (about 27turns for Sci Method) so getting the gpt up for steals and deals is good. we also need rifles to replace the spears (and to be cheap upgrades for infantry).

we have at least ~1.5 turnsets till we can turn on the French, due to my shortsightedness, so let's make the most of it buy building up infrastructure and shoring up the defenses.

So, I understand it doesn't make sense to do any self-research at this point and we will be better off collecting Gold to rush building and do trades...
No Universities then either... just banks and stocks.

yeah, i think for now that's right. we don't have enough cities to compete with sid ai's in regards to research. main tech's to get are espionage and Sci Method, but you already knew that
i suspect that the AI will be going hell bent on espionage, rep parts, and refining (or maybe something else?). not sure, but maybe we want to get the persians up to the IA so they can start helping our research-by-stealing efforts as well

Banks, stocks and factories, rifles, Jumbos (no longer Dumbos), wheel, deal and steal. Set us up for the People's Republic of India. Trondheim to Osman.

Nibble at the Viking/Ottoman edges?

well done on the blitzkreig on Trondheim. (clapping)
so now i take it the rest of the game for research will be based on the wheel and deal tactic?

lurker's comment:

grahamiam said:

IBT: we gain Monarchy, Engineering, Invention, Gunpowder, Printing Press, Education, Banking, Chemistry, Democracy, Economics, Navigation, Physics, Free Artistry, ToG, Magnetism, Mil Tradition, Nationalism, Steam, Medicine, Communism, Industrialization, Electricity, Corporation, Facism

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One of the more impressive GL slingshots I have seen.


Very nice job guys.

no kidding, i could just imagine what my reaction would be after readin and clicking to next..
"master, our sages have discovered "xxxxxxx""

Great you did it!