Civilization/Leader Ref List - Game Setup Help

Denniz · Nov 12, 2005

Attached are two short reference lists of the Civilization & Leader information I am always needing when I am setting up a new game. One list is ordered by Civilization and the other by Leader.

The lists were created using data from the Civ 4 Info Center. :thumbsup:

I have provided 3 formats: doc, rtf and xls. (If someone with a pdf writer wants to add that, it wouldn't hurt my feelings. )

EDIT: Updated files with corrections noted below by Baines and Aminor. Added Trait & Tech Matrices. PDF versions courtesy of Sadan01 can be found in here.

Baines · Nov 13, 2005

Good initiative, but you should know that the Info Center is not 100% correct.
For example Luis XIV is not Creative/Organized, he's Creative/Industrious. It says so ingame and you can check C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Assets\XML\Civilizations\CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml for details.

I don't know if there are more traits that are listed wrong in the Info Center, hopefully they will change it in the next update. :rolleyes:

Edit: You can download a free PDF writer at http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp hope it fills your needs, haven't used it myself.

Aminor · Nov 13, 2005

I used the tables provided by Denniz as a quick basis for some tables of my own (which I will share here as soon as presentable). Since Baines noted one discrepancy I reviewed the information carefully from the manual and found one other change:

Swap Roman (Julius Caesar) from Expansive/Creative to Expansive/Organized

and Persia (Cyrus) from Expansive/Organized to Expansive/Creative

Otherwise, all combinations of traits are possible other than Creative/Organized and Industrious/Philosophical.

.pdf generation is also an option with most modern office suites -- at least the two that I use which of course omits the most common.

Denniz · Nov 14, 2005

Baines said:
Good initiative, but you should know that the Info Center is not 100% correct.

Yikes.

It never occured to me to check.

Aminor said:
Since Baines noted one discrepancy I reviewed the information carefully from the manual and found one other change...

I am not sure I would trust the manual. I am going to check against the game. (not the civilopedia)

I will see if I can re-post them this evening.

Thanks, guys.

Denniz · Nov 14, 2005

Corrected Files in first message.

Added Trait & Tech Matrices.

Aminor · Nov 14, 2005

I agree about not believing any source of data at this point which was why I did/will try to reference where I obtained the information when posting.

Thanks for adding the Trait matrix. That was exactly what I had roughed out as a quick guide when selecting a new leader for a new game. The Tech matrix is also handy though I haven't paid as much attention to that... so far.

Sadan01 · Nov 15, 2005

Denniz said:
(If someone with a pdf writer wants to add that, it wouldn't hurt my feelings. )

Please find those three documents in PDF format attached.

Great work on these documents Denniz

They are very useful instead of having to search through the manual or the Civilopedia.

Denniz · Nov 15, 2005

Aminor said:
I agree about not believing any source of data at this point which was why I did/will try to reference where I obtained the information when posting.

Good point. I verified the list by starting a game with each leader. The only issues I found were the ones you and Baines noted.

Denniz · Nov 15, 2005

Sadan01 said:
Please find those three documents in PDF format attached.

Thanks, Sadan. :goodjob:

fung3 · Nov 15, 2005

Nice work Denniz. Much appeciated.

Just a thought, how about adding preferred Civics to the CIV 4 Civilizations chart.

LeSphinx · Nov 15, 2005

Very usefull: thanks Denniz

LeSphinx

Shevek · Nov 20, 2005

Great. I have printed it and will use it.
Thanks for doing the work.

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