Should India have a Hindu "Law of Return" ?

If they're desperate enough to travel to India from any other country I guess they need all the help they can get.
 
aneeshm said:
Let me put it this way - no country ( except maybe Saudi Arabia or some other equally ******** fundie state ) cannot me made a home of the Hindus , but only one country ( or subcontinent ) is shaped by their culture .
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hmmm... I do not understand what you are saying, but I do not think you are answering my question.
 
He's saying that any country can be made into a home for Hindu's but only India can truly be a home since it is shaped by Hindu's.
 
If such a law went through, you'd have Hindu converts from various prosthelyzing missions such as Gaudiya Vaishnavas (known as Hare Krishna, as ISKCON, one of many Gaudiya Vaishnava missions, is often called) from countries all over the world claiming discrimination, wanting to live in India. And yes, I've spoken to American and Western European converts who would love nothing more than to live in India. Said converts have even stayed in India in the past for months on a tourist visa, and the differences between USA and India do not bother them one bit.

India is a very conservative country immigration wise. You can get a six month tourist visa, but if you claimed religious sabbatical, they'll probably reject it and tell you to use a six month tourist visa. They also supposedly issue a 10 year multiple entry visa, but it's difficult to get, and I only know one guy who claimed to have one.

India has a lot of people already. More than 3 times as many people as the USA, in a country 1/3 the size of the USA. I don't think they want anymore people, Hindu or otherwise.
 
silver 2039 said:
He's saying that any country can be made into a home for Hindu's but only India can truly be a home since it is shaped by Hindu's.
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India shaped by Hindus... Well that is arguable (considering that before present time the sub-continent was not under Hindu rule for a thousand years continuously and just because there was a majority of Hindus does not necessarily mean that they were the most important change agent) but let us assume that it is true.

So how do you go from India shaped by Hindus -> Hindus need a "Law of return" or "India should have a Law of return"?
 
betazed said:
India shaped by Hindus... Well that is arguable (considering that before present time the sub-continent was not under Hindu rule for a thousand years continuously and just because there was a majority of Hindus does not necessarily mean that they were the most important change agent) but let us assume that it is true.
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That is not really true. Admittedly Hindus weren't in control for perhaps a hundred or two hundred years before independence, but before then, the larger part of the subcontinent (minus some peak times of the Mughals) were under Hindu rule.
 
That is not really true. Admittedly Hindus weren't in control for perhaps a hundred or two hundred years before independence, but before then, the larger part of the subcontinent (minus some peak times of the Mughals) were under Hindu rule.
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The British and Mughals however shaped India a great deal. Our government, laws, institutions, etc... come from them, as well as the annoyingly conservative social mindset. One cannot say that India was shaped by Hindus. It was shaped by a great many peoples and forces over a long period of time.
 
If they're desperate enough to travel to India from any other country I guess they need all the help they can get.
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Bollocks. I lived in the US for 13 or 14 years. Its not what the ignorant Western mindset makes it out to be. India is indeed very diffrent than the US, (far more intreasting, and somewhat annoying perhaps) but its not a bad place to be at all. Especially if you have money, so most of the Indians from abraod that come back to India do indeed have money. So bollocks.
 
betazed said:
India shaped by Hindus... Well that is arguable (considering that before present time the sub-continent was not under Hindu rule for a thousand years continuously and just because there was a majority of Hindus does not necessarily mean that they were the most important change agent) but let us assume that it is true.
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The culture of India is , and will remain for the forseeable future , overwhelmingly Hindu .

betazed said:
So how do you go from India shaped by Hindus -> Hindus need a "Law of return" or "India should have a Law of return"?
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Because India is the natural home of the Hindus , it makes sense to allow them to come here when they want to ( excepting criminals fleeing the law of their home country ( unless they seek political asylum ) or other exceptions like this ) .
 
aneeshm: Are you in favour of a "law of return" for Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists etc etc?

Edit: And where exactly are these "pogroms where many Hindus are killed" that you speak of? Got a link please? Sounds pretty serious.
 
Rambuchan said:
Edit: And where exactly are these "pogroms where many Hindus are killed" that you speak of? Got a link please? Sounds pretty serious.
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Actually he mistakenly added an "are". He wanted to write "pogroms where many Hindus killed" as he was refering to the thousands of victims, mainly christian and muslims, killed by Hindu extremists in India ;)
 
Rambuchan said:
aneeshm: Are you in favour of a "law of return" for Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists etc etc?
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They are all Hindus , so yes , they should also be allowed to return to India .

Rambuchan said:
Edit: And where exactly are these "pogroms where many Hindus are killed" that you speak of? Got a link please? Sounds pretty serious.
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http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/mar/22spec.htm?q=tp&file=.htm
http://www.safhr.org/refugee_watch16.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lajja


India is a refuge to Taslima Nasrin , who was persecuted in her home country of Bangladesh ( even though she is a Muslim ) !
 
aneeshm said:
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India is a refuge to Taslima Nasrin , who was persecuted in her home country of Bangladesh ( even though she is a Muslim ) !
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Indira Ghandi and her son Rajiv should have fled to Bangladesh instead of being killed by those hindu and sikh extremists; and Indira and Rajiv were Hindu, gee what would they have done if the PM was named Mohammad or John !!! Mahatma Gandi himself should have asked for political asylum before being shot dead by another hindu fanatic ;)
Hindu extremism really seem to be a serious problem in India
 
HannibalBarka said:
Indira Ghandi and her son Rajiv should have fled to Bangladesh instead of being killed by those hindu and sikh extremists; and Indira and Rajiv were Hindu, gee what would they have done if the PM was named Mohammad or John !!! Mahatma Gandi himself should have asked for political asylum before being shot dead by another hindu fanatic ;)
Hindu extremism really seem to be a serious problem in India
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Funny how you refuse to answer the points to which you have no answer , and try to trivialise them by putting in their place "bla" .

You see , Hindu extremism is such a problem in India that the President is a Muslim ( who everybody likes ) , the Prime Minister is a Sikh , and the leader of the ruling party is a Christian .
 
aneeshm said:
Funny how you refuse to answer the points to which you have no answer , and try to trivialise them by putting in their place "bla" .
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It not a matter of having or not having answer, but a matter of caring or not ;)


aneeshm said:
You see , Hindu extremism is such a problem in India that the President is a Muslim ( who everybody likes ) , the Prime Minister is a Sikh , and the leader of the ruling party is a Christian .
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OK. So it's wonderland for every one but the Dalit ?
Who burnt those muslims for that mosque/temple again?
 
HannibalBarka said:
Who burnt those muslims for that mosque/temple again?
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Your flitting from topic to topic like a butterfly flits from flower to flower is irritating .

Anyway - WTH ? The mosque was demolished , then there were riots - there was no organised action , it was just a bunch of fanatics gone crazy .
 
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