JuanM
Chieftain
I'm only buying it if they include a "no city razing" option for CIV III.
Sid Meier's Civilization Chronicles Announced
- Thread starter Thunderfall
- Start date
krantzbucks
Chieftain
- Joined
- Dec 19, 2005
- Messages
- 26
If I ever get around to buying a new computer so that I can play Civ IV, this may have come down in price enough so that I can justify buying it to get Civ IV and get some nice extras. It's a nice looking package, but I have the "Collector's Tin" of Civ III and it is in my closet somewhere never to be seen.
DBear
unbeliever
Is Civ2:Multiplayer Gold included in Test of Time? I'll definitely consider this, as I don't have the Civ2 expansions or the card game. Civ4 I'll have to mothball until I get a better computer.
- Joined
- Oct 25, 2000
- Messages
- 12,510
I wish they had a compilation like that at the same time Civ4 was released. It would have been an absolute must buy for any civ fans.
The $69.99 price tag is very reasonable for all those stuff though.
The $69.99 price tag is very reasonable for all those stuff though.
hmm... Civ2 MGE is not in the list, but they really should replace the vanilla original Civ2 version on the list with it. Most of the Civ2 scenarios in the Downloads section require Civ2 MGE to play. The MGE version includes the two Civ2 expansion packs I believe.DBear said:
The version that's in there is not MGE (although we do keep Civ 2 and ToT separate, so we're not forcing one or the other on people). But you can download a patch to make it compatible with the scenarios:
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ2/downloads/cedric/
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ2/downloads/cedric/
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Pluses:
- I lost my CIV1 (it wasn't me, it wasn't me: my mother didn't realize the IMPORTANCE of the game of my life!!!)
- I only played CIV2 in other's computers (didn't like the Window mode as it lacked immersion, the main feature of a Civ game to me)
- I only have Conquests of III (a colleague gave me it's copy and Portugal was a must have)
- I have Civ4 and Warlords.
- I don't have the card game (duh)
- I don't have the book
- I don't have the DVD and if I saw the LOTR extras several times (yes, the long versions of all of them), I seem to be a target to that DVD.
- I don't have the neat box
Is this optionable?
- I lost my CIV1 (it wasn't me, it wasn't me: my mother didn't realize the IMPORTANCE of the game of my life!!!)
- I only played CIV2 in other's computers (didn't like the Window mode as it lacked immersion, the main feature of a Civ game to me)
- I only have Conquests of III (a colleague gave me it's copy and Portugal was a must have)
- I have Civ4 and Warlords.
- I don't have the card game (duh)
- I don't have the book
- I don't have the DVD and if I saw the LOTR extras several times (yes, the long versions of all of them), I seem to be a target to that DVD.
- I don't have the neat box
Is this optionable?
Any chance of this thing containing the full source code for the earlier games?
Remember the Civ2 source code petition here and at Apolyton? I'm thinking specifically of Test of Time and perhaps Civ1. That would make this box totally awesome and a must-buy even for those who already own most of these games.
If not... meh... I already have Civ1 and Civ2. I don't want Civ3, my computer is too old for Civ4, I don't care for card games and I want to play games, not look at videos of other geeks talking about games.
Oh, but um, which version of Civ1 will be included? The original DOS or "Civilization for Windows" version? And will all games come with their manuals or will they just be PDFs?
Oh really? You don't have any problems with that patch? I guess I have to drop my objections to it then as it being piracy if even people at 2K Games think it's okay.
Remember the Civ2 source code petition here and at Apolyton? I'm thinking specifically of Test of Time and perhaps Civ1. That would make this box totally awesome and a must-buy even for those who already own most of these games.
If not... meh... I already have Civ1 and Civ2. I don't want Civ3, my computer is too old for Civ4, I don't care for card games and I want to play games, not look at videos of other geeks talking about games.
Oh, but um, which version of Civ1 will be included? The original DOS or "Civilization for Windows" version? And will all games come with their manuals or will they just be PDFs?
2K_jason said:
Oh really? You don't have any problems with that patch? I guess I have to drop my objections to it then as it being piracy if even people at 2K Games think it's okay.
Mercator:
Funny story. We don't actually have the source code to the first two games, so we can't release it.
The Civ franchise changed hands a lot of times (Microprose to Hasbro, Hasbro to Infogrames/Atari, then to us), and if the source code was ever involved in any of those transactions, it never made its way to us. So even if we could release the source code (and I'm not sure we ever could), we don't have it to release anyway.
The good news is that Civ for Windows (not DOS) works great on XP, as do all the other games. If they didn't, we wouldn't be able to put out this collection.
Funny story. We don't actually have the source code to the first two games, so we can't release it.
The Civ franchise changed hands a lot of times (Microprose to Hasbro, Hasbro to Infogrames/Atari, then to us), and if the source code was ever involved in any of those transactions, it never made its way to us. So even if we could release the source code (and I'm not sure we ever could), we don't have it to release anyway.
The good news is that Civ for Windows (not DOS) works great on XP, as do all the other games. If they didn't, we wouldn't be able to put out this collection.
netbjarne
Aaargh! Angry!!
- Joined
- Nov 14, 2005
- Messages
- 112
I'd rather bye new titles versions instead of old. As much as I was enchanted by civ1, I think it suck today, compared by newer versions. I also think its very peculiar that they left out warlords? - so much for a complete package...
Id rather pay for a complete patch fixing the rest of the bugs ;-)
Id rather pay for a complete patch fixing the rest of the bugs ;-)
RegentMan
Deity
Older games have a quality to them. I find myself wanting to play Civ II and Civ III right now, even having Civ IV.netbjarne said:
Plus it makes sense not to include Warlords. They'd be fools to.
vingrjoe
Landlocked Shipwright
I'm with El Justo on this. It's just milking the cash cow some more. As I stated before, I would gladly shell out the cash for a release with Civ3 fixes, and a more powerful editor. I agree, it's nothing more than greed packaged in a fanboy starter kit.
Fix Civ3's bugs, and put the editor on steroids !
Well, we're waiting for a reply. However, I'm guessing it's a no. Money trumps passion for one's work with regards to the beancounters at these video game companies.
Fix Civ3's bugs, and put the editor on steroids !
Well, we're waiting for a reply. However, I'm guessing it's a no. Money trumps passion for one's work with regards to the beancounters at these video game companies.
Keroro
Dororo: Ninja Frog
I would guess that the new release is mainly aimed at two groups: people who have never got round to playing civ in the past, and completists. Though accepting that there might be quite a few of the second group on this forum I think that Civinator's question will be pretty critical to a lot of us:
If so then I'd consider a purchase, if not then it's very unlikely for me at least.
Of course if you release the source code for Civ 3 then you're guaranteed sales
.
Civinator said:
If so then I'd consider a purchase, if not then it's very unlikely for me at least.
Of course if you release the source code for Civ 3 then you're guaranteed sales
.
Bluemofia
F=ma
Sweet! I must have this! (good thing I can drive too)
Start eating less food to save money!
CivPartisan
King
Hello 2K_Jason,
I am assuming they are bringing back Best of the Net scenarios in these versions too...this would be such a treat to see on disk. It is always nice to show other players what is possible and what Civ is capable of no matter what version is played...
Cheers,
CivPartisan
I am assuming they are bringing back Best of the Net scenarios in these versions too...this would be such a treat to see on disk. It is always nice to show other players what is possible and what Civ is capable of no matter what version is played...
Cheers,
CivPartisan
vingrjoe
Landlocked Shipwright
Notice how 2k Jason seemed to disappear from radar when hit with the Civ3 fix questions.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to grill the guy, however, I want to remind Firaxis that they abandonned Civ3 without fixing bugs. Also, they should realize that there is still a good Civ3 base, and fixing the bugs, and beefing up the editor would be good for them and the fans.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to grill the guy, however, I want to remind Firaxis that they abandonned Civ3 without fixing bugs. Also, they should realize that there is still a good Civ3 base, and fixing the bugs, and beefing up the editor would be good for them and the fans.
CivPartisan
King
Hello Good People,
As much as you probably don't want to hear it, Civ III is a game that appeared on the scene in 2001--that was 5 years ago! Since people generally expect a new version of software to come out every two years that puts servicing this program 2 1/2 times more difficult.
You might say, well this game is still for sale...and I say true, but how much of that is overstock. I don't know of many titles that are still supported from 5 years ago by any software manufacturer. Firaxis has done a fantastic job at making things available and staying current on games...(by the way, they do make other games).
But do I think it should still be supported? Absolutely! But I also think CivDOS, the original Civilization game from 1991 should still be supported, which probably classifies me as a nut. Heck, I still use DOS, Windows 3.1 and Linux and I still use old computers just for fun--so yes, I am a nut.
Once again as much as we all probably don't want to hear it...all good things come to an end...but I say ONLY if we let it.
Keep nagging...maybe we'll get a patch out of it. That's how we got Civ III in the first place. There is something to be said for the art of begging.
CivPartisan
As much as you probably don't want to hear it, Civ III is a game that appeared on the scene in 2001--that was 5 years ago! Since people generally expect a new version of software to come out every two years that puts servicing this program 2 1/2 times more difficult.
You might say, well this game is still for sale...and I say true, but how much of that is overstock. I don't know of many titles that are still supported from 5 years ago by any software manufacturer. Firaxis has done a fantastic job at making things available and staying current on games...(by the way, they do make other games).
But do I think it should still be supported? Absolutely! But I also think CivDOS, the original Civilization game from 1991 should still be supported, which probably classifies me as a nut. Heck, I still use DOS, Windows 3.1 and Linux and I still use old computers just for fun--so yes, I am a nut.
Once again as much as we all probably don't want to hear it...all good things come to an end...but I say ONLY if we let it.
Keep nagging...maybe we'll get a patch out of it. That's how we got Civ III in the first place. There is something to be said for the art of begging.
CivPartisan
