Fox08 - The Bad Joke Continues

r_rolo1, is that a skip request or a Got It post?

Anyway, no shame in losing an OCC Immortal game. Our last ditch effort could be to try to instigate a world war (JC versus Izzy). Try to gift Izzy as much tech as possible prior to that, if we are going to try it.

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It is a got it but don't expect me to play it until tomorrow ( if I wanted a skip I would ask explicitely for it, Mr Fox )

Instigating a JC vs Izzy war is a desperate move, but IMHO it is the only one we still have in our pocket that can bring victory home. But I do not have much of hope: like I posted before JC has 2-3 times more soldiers than Izzy and his army is better equiped.... The only thing that it can give us is time...

well, of course there's always the possibility that all JCs vassals make it so that he DOESN'T break the Dom limit after taking out Gil and Izzy. Then he'd come after us -- at least it would gain us 50 turns or so

@ rolo: are you saying i ain't winning many SGs lately? well, that's true

Turn 1 – Gilga capitulated to Izzy

Now time to check Izzy:

We are doomed....

Checked JC avaliability for a war as well... He would , but it looks like Superconductors isn’t good enogh ( like if i was going to give him a SS tech now )

Turn 2 – I love when the AI does this....

I even forgot that the AP was still active....

Voted Izzy ( brownie diplo points )

Turn 3 – Our city is more healthy:

Gone to Izzy for buying the last SS related tech that AI is willing to sell:

We could have won the AP election......

Turn 4 –Finished thruster, started Stasis chamber ( we should focus on the essential SS parts: we may have a chance with a less than perfect SS )

JC has Manhattan, probably from a GE (isn’t the fusion one ). Next war will be a big bang....

Turn 5 – Izzy proposed a DP.... Looks like she’s trying to isolate JC diplomatically. I said no, but the option is still open. JC is still not ploting war ATM

UN vote..... thinked for a while and abstained. No diference anyway....

Got a GS..... the best he can do is a GA, I would keep it for the engine time in normal circunstances. But we may not even get there, so carpe diem.... GA it is.

Turn 6 – JC also knows a bad joke or two:

It shows that JC has computers.....And JC is 13 votes away from a Diplo win ( thank god that Gilga vassalized to Izzy.... or this game would be over right here )

We have a revolt in Mainz.... does not matter much unless it flips, and that is not very likely

Turn 8 – JC built SDI and has Fiber Optics ( he’ll get the Fusion GE most surely )

Turn 9 – Made a “ rip money from beaten civ” deals

This will keep us afloat @ 100% for some more turns.

Turn 10 – 2 corps were founded ( one JC other by HRE ) .JC builds the SS cockpit

Brief state of the world, 1955 AD

Tech Table


F8


City screen





Thoughts

We're navigating between Cila and Caridibis here.... if we create a war between JC and Izyy, we'll lose by Diplo ( if JC captures a city from anyone ) or Dom and if we don't JC will launch a SS far before us ( he only lacks Fusion and Superconductors to be able to build all the SS parts ). Regardless of that we still have a slim change of winning..... If all of the below items are checked:
- JC prepares for a war but does not launch it in time
- JC behaves like a normal AI and builds 2 engines before launch
- We do a barebone SS ( 1 ( maybe 2 or 3, if possible ) casing, 1 engine ( 2 would be ideal, but I doubt that we'll have a chance )), letting our SS be faster than JC one
- Have a ton of luck for our SS
Besides that this game is done....

Good luck, pholk ( you're definitely going to need it )!

P.S The bad joke


P.S. Only noticed now that we are a 5 star thread.... cool

sorry all, thought i'd posted a got-it last night when i actually got it. playing now; report in an hour or so.

Pretty good play ... I can't see how I could have played better. Now, we can try two things: (1) get Izzy to war with JC, hopefully with her new vassal she would be more a distraction for JC, or (2) get our spies running.

Both have very slim chance of success, and high probability of backfire.

Re the joke: ... I doubt it is even doable at Noble level. Maybe on an archipelago map.

Wish i'd seen Fox's note before i played, as it might've helped out a bit, but . . .

Turn 375/500 (1955 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:07:22]

I like that we're only missing a settled GE here

Turn 376/500 (1956 AD) -Nov-2007 00:11:43]
A UN vote:


Done another part; starting on the Bay in the queue

Turn 377/500 (1957 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:13:50]

Oddly enough, the resoultion passed

Turn 378/500 (1958 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:16:02]
Research comes in:

I went with Fiber Optics next. After this, we've got 3 more techs to go.

Also, the GAge ended this turn, and we went for 6t to 7t for the Bay

Turn 379/500 (1959 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:17:53]
We got a good event:

Obviously chosen for the relations boost

Turn 382/500 (1962 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:19:30]
Gil came stopped for some sugar, eggs, and a small request:


We also got another UN vote:

Figured this would help a marginal bit and saw no reason so to oppose it

Turn 383/500 (1963 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:21:28]
Vote results:


JC has completed 2 thrusters, too, this turn.

Turn 384/500 (1964 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:22:08]
Charlie also wanted us to jump through hoops:

Uhh, no.

Turn 387/500 (1967 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:24:34]
JC just completed 2 engines!


Turn 388/500 (1968 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:25:00]
Even izzy is on the act completing Life Support.

And gilgamesh came by again:

No deal.

And yet another vote:


Turn 389/500 (1969 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:25:53]
Still 3 votes shy!



> Composits to be able to build multiple casings while we wait for other techs

Turn 391/500 (1971 AD) [18-Nov-2007 00:27:46]
I accidentally played one extra turn, and lucky (or not) that I did because:


On another note, Toku called us up, too:

Sure, that sounds like a good way to ensure a long and happy life, not like it matters at this point.

A war might've slowed JC down a bit, but i'm not sure he would've needed to stop much production on his SS parts as he's got so many units already.

And i believe the honor is fox's to finish his own game

Well, mr fox, bring this one home ( in a ambulance )

If I'm allowed to launch a final notes, I'm quite suprised that we survived until XX century , and still being figthing for a win.... taking in account that only Izzy and the deceased Darius didn't Dowed us during the game, that is not a small feat in any regard.

Well, about my suggestion , I add a talk some months ago with cabert about this ( he said that he would launch it until October, but it looks that he forgot it ) and I bet that it would be more easibly done in a pangea map with a resorceless UU civ. Why? Because we could use the already improved terrain to our advantage and the lack of terrain development leads most surely to a military path ( to not give time to the AI to run away in front of us )

An old joke:


My last two whips for Pholky ...

WHERE's MY JOKE?

This is the most sloppy play I ever seen!


The coal is just sitting there in ruins (pun intended). Mine it for whatever-god-pholk-believes-in's sake!!! It will add hammer to IW, it will allow us to rail the mines and add more hammers. With all this hammers, we might have already won!!!!



Anyway, question is why haven't we lost?


Seems to me JC has built all the needed (and un-needed) parts. Well, guess it takes a while for the ship to fly to Alpha Centuri. Meanwhile, what we have been waiting for:


Imagine 6 mushroom clouds:


And finally, the lost mesage:


Surprisingly, Munich was not the top city (must be due to the cathedrals Izzy built in Madrid).


And we are listed as the Unready.


I think we did extremely well, better than expected. Sure luck was on our side where we were declared. And ofcourse, there were moments of weed (myself included). But all in all, I must say it was an excellent, entertaining and educational game. And thanks for the bad jokes.

Hey, Why don't I ever get the fireworks turns ?

Well, I think that we lost this one when we didn't got coal.... if we had coal in any other square than that HRE city , our prod would almost doubled ( because of the railroad and of the IW and Coal plant prod bonuses with coal ( well, the non defy on abandoning Beauro didn't helped either : p ) ). With that we may had built the barebone ( or not ) SS in time to surpass JC one.... oh well ,when does Fox- 9 (?) starts?

What is Fox 9? Deity OCC?

Thanks for the entertaining game team. It's a pity we couldn't bring it home but I think there's a big luck factor in high level OCC's that you just can't control. That and we all made our fair share of mistakes during the game too

Thanks guys, it's been fun following this one. Final joke for you'll: What do you call a female chipmunk? A chipnun.

Entertaining game. Bad luck on the loss.

Yeah, what about Fox-09 ? AW OCC ?

I was actually thinking the same thing earlier as I was looking over Fox's personal website (which, btw, there's a mistake w/the Fox numbering on THAT page, too )

my joke:
Why did hte cat cross the road?

B/c he was being chased by a dog!

^^why did you told him, pholk? I was seing how much time would pass until Mr Fox figured it out ( Hint: 1,2,3,....6,7,8, .... )

OCC AW?..... Looks good

Huh? I don't see anything wrong with my numbering!

Okay, re the next Fox game ... hmmm ... OCC-AW? It will be really interesting to see how the BtS supposedly-better AI fare in the a high difficulty OCC-AW archipelago map. It must be archipelago, for anything higher than Prince. Any other non-world-built map will be pure suicide.

However, I hear rumor of an extremely popular SG series (and I think every player on this roster is in the current incarnation of that SG series) planing for an OCC-AW for the next run ... so I don't know whether I should steal it.

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Fox08: The Bad Joke Contines (On-Going)
Immortal OCC - encourages by the win in Fox08, we take on Immortal ...

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Regarding Fox-09.... I heard that rumour too ... playing 2 OCC AW would somewhat redundant, but I'm not sure if even a third of the current players of the SG series we're talking would like to play a OCC AW.... So why not OCC- AW ?

Id like to join any OCC game including AW. I like to play OCC domination games on Monarch or Emperor. Its not allways war, but its fun. It revolves around taking steel from Lib and researching chemistry for grennies. The downside is, you need to turn vassals off. If they are on, even if they are down to their last city, they may not capitulate to you, but to someone else.....the downside to that is you need to raze every city.

GreyFox said:

However, I hear rumor of an extremely popular SG series (and I think every player on this roster is in the current incarnation of that SG series) planing for an OCC-AW for the next run

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r_rolo1 said:

regarding Fox-09.... I heard that rumour too

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huh? what series is that?