Emperor Cookbook III -- Kublai Kahn
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KingMorgan
Deity
Personally i feel early war strats are not what I want to play. War has it's place, but from what i have seen it's a losing strat on Deity level. (waits for a flaming) 
i suspect most people are here to rasise themselves to Deity. i don't beleieve there is a huge amount of skill in building a lot of of units and wiping out your neignbours. I'm sure you can (and will) argue the skill is rebuilding youir ecomany afterwards. peronally i think there is far more to the game than hook up horse, raise your neighbours, recover econamy, then claim at 1000AD 'the game is won' then give up.
just my 2 cents worth.
i suspect most people are here to rasise themselves to Deity. i don't beleieve there is a huge amount of skill in building a lot of of units and wiping out your neignbours. I'm sure you can (and will) argue the skill is rebuilding youir ecomany afterwards. peronally i think there is far more to the game than hook up horse, raise your neighbours, recover econamy, then claim at 1000AD 'the game is won' then give up.just my 2 cents worth.
Personally i feel early war strats are not what I want to play. War has it's place, but from what i have seen it's a losing strat on Deity level. (waits for a flaming)
just my 2 cents worth.
Yes there is a learning curve on this game. I am far from Deity games.
For me when I play the mongols with a powerful UU once in every 20-30 games i am going to abuse it till the day is won!!! Its part of the fun of playing the mongols. A rush like this on deity would be tougher due to AI teching.
If I want to learn my game I will pick a different leader than this.
If you want to learn deity its best to play Deity. I doubt anyone will be trying an early rush on Deity. This is where diplomacy skills come in. Here my game fails 9 times out of 10.
KingMorgan
Deity
I see what your saying Gumbolt, play the leader not the level.
maybe i'll replay this map.
maybe i'll replay this map.
Have fun too. I think Emperer and Diety strategies will vary greatly.
On a game i played similar to my start here i have taken out 2 ai and i now have a positive economy. With a good military footing. It isnt a strategy I would play on every Emperer game. least i am learning you can beat the Ai with rushes.
I found I had a hard time voting this time because I really get paranoid about a poor economy (and there was a lot of expansion in this round that may have been to quick) Here are my votes:
1 - Plako for having a relatively stable economy and decent expansion
2 - King Morgan for the same reasons, just slightly behind Plako
3 - RRRaskolnikov for having some great expansion while not having a total economy crash!
So, that puts our tally (not counting votes for Dave, who got 9 or Soirana who got 8 and Shyuhe who asked to only be a shadow and got 2) at:
Chromium - 8
RRRaskolnikov - 7
Plako - 6
King Morgan - 2
I am going to keep the voting open for another 12-16ish hours (tomorrow morning for me) to allow anyone who voted for Dave, Soirana or Shyuhe to change their votes to other entries.
On that note, I do want to thank Soirana for removing her save from the runnings--because the game was pretty much already over. Nice job Soirana. And Dave's save is just too amazing... enough said there.
I am not sure how we can do this more efficiently in the future. I think King Morgan has a point in saying that this game is about learning, which means that playing from the absolutely best save every time might not provide the best learning experience. Of course, that doesn't mean we want to play from the 'worst' save either. Perhaps we can have two votes... one for the 'best all around save' and one for 'save that will provide me with the best learning opportunity'? Of course, that gets a little confusing, and might be a little too much like our 'voting' for the worst save a while back. Perhaps having people voluntarily remove their own saves is good enough. I'm not really sure how to resolve this issue, but I am definitely interested in hearing everyone's opinions!
1 - Plako for having a relatively stable economy and decent expansion
2 - King Morgan for the same reasons, just slightly behind Plako
3 - RRRaskolnikov for having some great expansion while not having a total economy crash!
So, that puts our tally (not counting votes for Dave, who got 9 or Soirana who got 8 and Shyuhe who asked to only be a shadow and got 2) at:
Chromium - 8
RRRaskolnikov - 7
Plako - 6
King Morgan - 2
I am going to keep the voting open for another 12-16ish hours (tomorrow morning for me) to allow anyone who voted for Dave, Soirana or Shyuhe to change their votes to other entries.
On that note, I do want to thank Soirana for removing her save from the runnings--because the game was pretty much already over. Nice job Soirana. And Dave's save is just too amazing... enough said there.
I am not sure how we can do this more efficiently in the future. I think King Morgan has a point in saying that this game is about learning, which means that playing from the absolutely best save every time might not provide the best learning experience. Of course, that doesn't mean we want to play from the 'worst' save either. Perhaps we can have two votes... one for the 'best all around save' and one for 'save that will provide me with the best learning opportunity'? Of course, that gets a little confusing, and might be a little too much like our 'voting' for the worst save a while back. Perhaps having people voluntarily remove their own saves is good enough. I'm not really sure how to resolve this issue, but I am definitely interested in hearing everyone's opinions!
If you could extort CoL from Zara...Time to declare a winner and start the next round...
The final vote tally is:
Chromium - 10
Plako - 6
RRRaskolnikov - 5
Turkis - 2
King Morgan - 2
Gumbolt - 1
That means the winner is... me! Woo!! Here is the save.
The next round will run through 800AD. Because we are a day late finishing the voting, saves will need to be submitted by Monday the 19th rather than Sunday.
The final vote tally is:
Chromium - 10
Plako - 6
RRRaskolnikov - 5
Turkis - 2
King Morgan - 2
Gumbolt - 1
That means the winner is... me! Woo!! Here is the save.
The next round will run through 800AD. Because we are a day late finishing the voting, saves will need to be submitted by Monday the 19th rather than Sunday.
RRRaskolnikov
Goldfish
@Soirana:
@ChronyumL: Congrats for your save! I have played some turns from my previous save, do I have to play the second round as a shadow then? We know already the map and opponents...
Cheers
Spoiler :
@ChronyumL: Congrats for your save! I have played some turns from my previous save, do I have to play the second round as a shadow then? We know already the map and opponents...
Cheers
You don't need to shadow as long as you didn't discover some amazing new information that you can use (and its not like there are any new resource discoveries going on in this age--and we already know all the opponents). So, yeah, don't worry about it; you are welcome to play along with the rest of us!
Thanks for the comments soirana. Although the placement isn't ideal on either of the Srai's I chose to fill in the spots because of the available grasslands providing them the opportunity to cottage and pay for themselves while providing a marginal resource gain. I agree with the marble qonders being in a tough spot, my hope was that after teching currency I would be able to beeline literacy and get the glib at least.
There is no big spoiler in fact were is settler with escort heading west
The fact i hated was unscouted NW area. I built city in my original place even if that meant using knowledge of map.
Overall I started scouting tundra lately. I sort of like dropping city on ice to claim copper and triple seafood.
I am very interested how Keshik wars will unfold for others
The fact i hated was unscouted NW area. I built city in my original place even if that meant using knowledge of map.
Overall I started scouting tundra lately. I sort of like dropping city on ice to claim copper and triple seafood.
I am very interested how Keshik wars will unfold for others
I thought this was true until I looked in the civelopedia. The greek UU actually only gets its bonus defending against chariots. It functions as an axeman (with a bonus when on a hill) in all other situations. So HA shred them
Not so strong then. i think I had issues with this unit when i played cyrus and had to take out the greeks. Perhaps that why i thought it was better than it was.
