A New Hope: A Star Wars Mafia Game (Game Thread)

I have to say that I felt my personal goal was inane, to say the very least, and felt almost impossible to acquire without serious metagaming or some sort of change to the ability.

Queen's Guard: Once in the game, you may protect Padme Amidala. If she is attacked while you are protecting her, you will die in her place.

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Being a one-use ability, I had to second-guess when the mafia were going to attack Padme... if I used the ability on a night she wasn't attacked then it was gone, same as if I wasted it on someone that wasn't Padme. That's pretty much what 'one-use' means, at least.

So I had to find Padme, which wasn't easy, as we weren't masonic like Han/Chewie, and as Captain Panaka (total niche role, alot of people I spoke to had to Wookieepedia him!) I wasn't trusted one jot (being a newbie probably added to this), which made things that much harder. Eventually, Romanic learned from RRRaskolnikov that TFA was Padme, whereby I sent him a PM about who I was and my goal... and received no response, so that closed that avenue for me, which was utterly frustrating.

It felt like the only way I could ensure I would know Padme was going to be attacked was to orchestrate that attack myself, either by asking a town role to attack her (but that would make me even more suspicious, no?) or setting a bounty on her, but by the time I was allowed to know who Padme was, the bounty hunters were all dead! So no luck there either.

So what would happen if I had successfully protected Padme from death? Yep, I'd die myself... while I think that this is a novel approach to the doctor role, I don't think it has it's proper place in a mafia game. Besides, if I die protected Padme one night, what happens to her the next? Logically, she would be attacked again (someone dies to save TFA, must mean TFA is important, right?), making my sacrifice utterly futile in the grand scheme of things. Factor in that RRRaskolnikov informed me Padme had alternative protection that wasn't expended like myself (likely a Jedi) and it just felt like an utterly futile venture and a largely unachievable personal goal.

While I struggled to integrate with the game at first, partly due to being a greenhorn, partly due to the role, I got into my stride somewhat at the end; I am by no means a lurker or selfish player (fellow Orgahs might say I'm too nice ¬_¬), and it was always going to be incredibly uncharacteristic of me to fulfill my own personal goal at the expense of the town losing a vote and me no longer being a part of the game... I'm a team-player first and foremost, and having spoken to several people about the role (both players of the game, hosts of other games and so on), I concluded that the cons for the ability and personal goal far, far outweighed the potential gains and opted agianst it.

Essentially, what I'm saying is that if you think some people had their role hard, then you ought to have played as Captain Panaka; some people might jump at the chance to sign up to a game and get themselves out of it within seconds of it starting (Jar Jar Binks, anyone?), but I'm not one of them.

Just thought I would put that point across as the only person to survive to end-game and still come out with nothing. :3

I had to kill shadowbound, but he got lynched instead. I was so close to doing it also, but my team mates voted against what I wanted for safety sake and it nearly cost us the win. JHT had to seduce Anakin to the dark side and Dooku had to kill a Jedi and one of the two Galactic Republic people. Also I had to have died by that stage. I would have allowed Dooku to have outed me, if I had done that early on, since we did know that TFA was Galactic Reepublic I am not sure what Grevious's goal was, since he died the first night.

I am not sure how Jar Jar got 10 points, since he did not survive to the end.

@ Secura, we even told you that we were going to attack Padme and yet we were suprirsed that you did not do the protection.

classical_hero said:

I am not sure how Jar Jar got 10 points, since he did not survive to the end.

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Jar Jar was neutral and his goal was to die, thus he fulfilled his VC, PG and survival (or lack thereof) goal.

Same reason I recieved no points; I survived the game... I was meant to die like Jar Jar. ¬_¬

Aww, no bonus for first and quickest victory?

How did Pi get more points than me? I presume we had the same personal goal, though I don't know what his victory was and we pooled our money towards having the most amount.

Secura - funny story, that exact same role is the source of pretty much any problems/hostility some of us had in an earlier game, the LOTR game. Specifically, I had almost all the exact same details of your role, it's coincidental
-I had a limited-use protection ability, and would die in place of another person, that's the entirety of the role
-I had to die, rather than live to achieve victory conditions, but dying meant my faction was more likely to lose (elves) which was also another victory conditions. And I was given a goal to protect someone who turned out to be a mafia

There were about five or six of us with similar positions - limited-use abilities (scan or protect, mostly) that weren't actually even sure to work. I got asked by more major characters roles to use my ability early on, but then no attack occurred, and the rest of the game people kept insisting I was lying and never had any real ability and thus was Mafia, (while it turns out two other "elves" were the Mafia cover roles) etc... And the mafia never killed some us low-level innocents- same thing for this game, why kill Capt Panaka or the redshirt who can't actually have any ability left or do anything.

In short I agree that such roles can be really painful. Better to be a completely vanilla Innocent with no abilities - a limited-use ability destined or mostly certain to fail just is too annoying. Sorry you had it so hard, at least it was just one or maybe two roles like that in this one.

About Jar-Jar though - brilliant role all around, for those who didn't know I think Zack said it to the dead or something - his personal goal was to "die at night" so he achieved that too. Hilarious that even the lynch helped him out towards his PG later.

To Arakhor, my PG was to kill some rebels. My kill of Han Solo clinched that.

Your kill of Han Solo, i.e. Earthling? We both attacked him, but I was under the impression that I killed him

16th place? I'm disgusted... Wait, how did I even get one point?

Oh yeah...

I killed some rebels later I think.

civplayah said:

16th place? I'm disgusted... Wait, how did I even get one point?

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By dying.

@Secura: Sorry about that. Zack asked for more roles when we were first setting up the game, I randomly got a few from various places and he was one of them. Most of them we just got rid of quickly, a couple replaced other niche roles we already started out with. How we ended up eventually putting Panaka in the game I don't really know. Yes, the role sucked, we'll freely admit that.

@SS-18 ICBM: We already gave you the awesome trophy of awesomeness when you died, isn't that enough?

Although, yes, you can get the bragging rights bonus for completing all your goals in the fastest amount of time it was possible to do so.

@classical: Greivous's PG was to kill 2 Jedi and get 2 lightsabers to add to his starting two and get 4.

How did dying give me a point?

Like I said, you had a PG involving your own death with your ability, so your survival VC was to die, unlike most people. You died, so you got that 1 point.

choxorn said:

@SS-18 ICBM: We already gave you the awesome trophy of awesomeness when you died, isn't that enough?

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Yeah, you're right.

Still can't wait for the end of the game update. It better have an epic story.

Owen Glyndwr said:

8th PLACE WOOOOO!!!!

I should get bonus points for not falling into TRAPS.

Seriously, you guys should have made a bonus VC for me to include TRAP into every post, or make that my VC. It was way more fun than the contrived "scan someone over 8 base str", which for me was just wait and survive until someone was for sure id'd as someone strong and then scan him.

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That post of yours is a TRAP, you Rebel scum! I should get extra points for killing the Rebel scum whenever I could. And for firing when ready.

SS-18 ICBM said:

Aww, no bonus for first and quickest victory?

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Link to video.

I like the demotivational poster

Are the role PMs going to be published? I would particularly like to look through them to see how you calculated varying Strength scores and the like.

When Zack posts the final update.

One final update coming up. Would you like that with a side of Role PMs?

The poor citizens of Lucasville were getting desperate. Eager to lynch someone they was sure was an innocent-killing Sith Lord, they were quick to condemn classical_hero - who had freely admitted his Sithiness, after all. However, some of the villagers inexplicably switched their votes at the last second to Csargo. Why they would be suspicious of someone who had been sleeping in the corner of the cantina for a week was baffling, but nevertheless, t'was the time for Rip Van Csargo to be lynched, apparently. Without a single word of protest escaping Csargo's snoring lips, he was dragged over to the high-tech guillotine. His head was placed in the proper position, and the blade - equipped with the best technology, of course - came down swiftly and cleanly seperated Csargo's lifeless torso from his lolling head. Disappointment fell over the villager's faces when they discovered that Csargo was in fact:



Grief spread across the faces of a select few, grins another few, and the remaining two retained a look of indifference on their faces. They were only in this for the money, they could care less about some important Jedi. Jedi didn't pay well, anyways.

hell_hound, classical_hero, and johnhughthom turned and focused their menacing stares on Secura, Virote_Considon, and OwenGlyndwr, who all backed away in incredible fear of their attackers. johnhughthom, the Emperor, started yelling at hell_hound and classical_hero what seemed to be instructions. "Dooku, take Secura! Maul, you attack Virote_Considon! I'll take OwenGlyndwr."

With a plan in motion, the three Sith Lords set out after their victims. hell_hound, also known as Count Dooku, sprinted after Secura and blocked her exit from the cantina. "You're not going anywhere, I've waited all effing game to kill someone!" Dooku growled. He then pulled out his blade and swiped across Secura's midsection in a graceful, gentlemanly manner.



Darth Maul, the one known more commonly as classical_hero, threw up his arms in protest. "Oh come on, I only get to kill some stupid droid!" He quickly silenced himself when he saw the menacing glares from his Sith comrades - he was the only one who had done any killing, after all. It was fair enough. Maul let out a sigh as he used a wave of dark side energy to engulf Virote_Considon and crush him.



johnhughthom, the Emperor Palpatine, stared down OwenGlyndwr the way a ravenous beast stares down his terrified prey. Palpatine spread his hands wide, as if about to give Owen a big hug. Confusion crept across Owen's face, but it was swept right off when he saw the electricity start to flare in Palpatine's hands. "No, don't use the lighting! Its, er, IT'S A TRAP!!!" Owen tried to persuade Palpatine to spare him, a silly mistake. The Emperor simply brought down the force of tons of Force lightning on Owen, while at the same time crushing Owen's body with the Force. He finally threw out his many lightsabers at Owen, which severed his body into several large chunks as the last scream of Owen's life escaped from his tortured vocal chords.



The three Sith turned to look at Romanichine and Niklas, who shrugged. "We're just greedy money lovers, you can leave us alone. You've paid us plenty of money, you should know we're know harm to you." The three Dark Lords nodded their heads in agreement, and the Emperor addressed his next words to everyone in the building: "Who wants a blue milk? This round's on me."


The Sith have won an Evil Victory!


Romanichine and Niklas have won a Money Victory!




Thank you everyone for playing! Role PM's and some other stuff will be coming shortly.