TerraNES: The Civil Experiment

Gem Hound, OOCly your terms are justifiable in the scope of preventing further abuses to druids in Keltia, but there isn't really any place for this kind of universal human rights stuff of "please don't genocide okay thanks" in the bronze age. You can object all you want, but all involved parties will continue to kill whoever they please so far as it serves their interests, and from an IC perspective so long as they're not your guys you probably don't/shouldn't have any reason to care.
 
Gem Hound, OOCly your terms are justifiable in the scope of preventing further abuses to druids in Keltia, but there isn't really any place for this kind of universal human rights stuff of "please don't genocide okay thanks" in the bronze age. You can object all you want, but all involved parties will continue to kill whoever they please so far as it serves their interests, and from an IC perspective so long as they're not your guys you probably don't/shouldn't have any reason to care.
And you guys cared when we did it. This world is very different from our own, and this war has been truly horrifying to both sides. It is perfectly within IC terms, as I can see it.
 
To: Followers of the Red Faith
From: Ildaris

Do not attempt to find safe haven in Paradise. You are a danger, and if you seek refuge here you will be denied.
 
And you guys cared when we did it.

Was the "[you probably shouldn't care unless they're your guys]" not clear? I suppose if you insist, or if Terrance doesn't object or whatever, you can stipulate that as a term. I contend you can't reasonably expect it to be maintained.
 
The Faithful in Armorica were not your own. :p

Oh geez what nonsense quibbling. I think we're all pretty clear we are discussing terms of religious devotees in Keltia, not Armoricans or Beurtgang or whatever.
 
Oh geez what nonsense quibbling. I think we're all pretty clear we are discussing terms of religious devotees in Keltia, not Armoricans or Beurtgang or whatever.

Then why would you turn around and say that? We are discussing religious devotees in Keltia. What you stated, I read as this:
If they are not Beurtgang, why should we care?
 
Arrival

The mood was subdued as the dusty, exhausted crowd finally reached the top of the ridge and, at long last, sighted their new home. A collective sigh came from the loose ranks, of both relief that their five-year long trek was at long last over, and from sheer exhaustion. Shuru, their Dawar guide, had urged them on after the brief attack by the Arbat raiders. Thy had kept on, almost to the point of collapse. Now, at last, they had arrived.

The valley known as Ulyan opened up before them, golden green fields shadowed and highlighted by the huge grey-and-white monutains on each side. The first snowflakes fell gently from the sky, patchworked with dull clouds and shafts of sunlight. Ahead lay the town of Ul-Tei itself, a seemingly simple construction in the centre of a glorious landscape.

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Above: A view of one part of the Ulyan Valley

As the crowd approached, however, the one defining aspect of the town came into view. Various expressions of surprise and delight ran through the Jin horde as they saw the glimmering monument - stone, with many faces, but each face covered in a writing similar but subtly different, simpler and with broader strokes. Each and every letter was carved out of the stone, and faced with precious silver.

"You want to know what it is?"
Qian, a bandage tied around his upper arm, snapped around. Facing him, matching the voice he'd heard, was a slight girl, clearly from the town but of mixed Yi-Dawar descent by her looks. Qian guessed her age at around fifteen, one year his junior.
She was also remarkably good-looking and Qian had to shake his head to bring his thoughts back to the present.

"You alright?" she said.
It occurred to Qian that she might have already said this, and also that he was staring.
"Sorry. I was just trying to take everything in," he lied. "It's... quite something."
"The town? It's alright, I guess, but it's nothing special..."
"That, I suppose. I was just awestruck by... well, everything. This place is quite a hidden treasure."
"Did you want me to tell you about the monument? And your double here?" The girl gestured, and Qian looked back over his shoulder.
About a metre away, Xin was leaning on the wooden frame of what looked like some kind of workshop, grinning like an idiot. Chuckling, he walked forward to the pair.
Speaking for them both, Qian replied. "We'd love to."

"I suppose I'd better start from the beginning, then.
Aynar, our patron god, was - is - a herder. Like us, the Dawar. He lived on the earth by himself - thousands of years ago, according to our wise men - wandering the earth, looking after his flocks. One day, hge met a woman, doing the same. Nai is her name, the patron of the Nanbu, and she became Aynar's wife. Aynar and Nai are, we say, the ancestors of all humanity. They had four sons and four daughters. One son and daughter, the youngest, fathered the Dawar and the Nanbu nad the other tribes of the mountains. The eldest pair wandered east, and all the east peoples spring from them. The other sons and daughters left across the mountains, never to be seen again. Their offspring are the other peoples and tribes that populate the world.

When Aynar and Nai became old, the wise men say they followed. They began the Long Trek up to the roof of the world, far to our west. In life, it is our duty, like Aynar did, to offer food, drink and a roof to anyone who might pass by, for the world rests on all our shoulders and not one person should ever let down their load. In death, it is our duty, just as it was Nai's, to walk the Long Trek until our legs give out or we can climb no higher. That is all that is asked of us."

"You sound like you know the story well," Xin said, after a short silence.
"Well, yes. We learn it at a young age. But mostly, I was reading it."
"How?"
"From that," she answered, gesturing at the monument. "The monument has inscribed upon it all the details of the lives of Aynar and Nai and their children. This side is a history of Aynar's and Nai's lives. Each of the others deals with the stories of their children, who are also revered and dwell upon the roof of the world. Daiyi and Yia, your ancestors. Usiyi and Ai, our ancestors. And Shen, Qia, Zan and Brei, the Lost Twins who took both the Short Trek and the Long, and ventured further than any people before or since. It is said your Confucius was himself the grandson of Daiyi and Yia. Perhaps that explains why many of our beliefs are similar."

"Well, I suppose it's your Aynar we have to thank for our safe arrival. Thank you very much for your explanation, ... ah, what was your name? I don't believe Qian had the presence of mind to ask."

The girl giggled unexpectedly. "My name", she said, standing and addressing both of them, "is Nai, after the Wise One herself. Many here bear such names, but I am the first to bear that name in the village for over a cycle. They say, although I do not believe them", she added, "that those who bear the name Nai or the name Aynar are destined for greatness."

After Xin walked off to address another villager, Qian spoke once again.
"He always does that to me. It's like even though we're twins, he's volunteered for the responsibilities of the younger sibling. That is to say, the joke is always on me and it never ends."
Nai grinned. "You have no idea. I have three like that to deal with."
As the sun set over the Nanbu Shanqu, the pair kept talking; watching the crowd slowly disperse to their makeshift camp, satisfied with the results of the day's march and fascinated with the new faith the mountains had shown them.
 
1. The Red Faith will only exist as a name, and all who follow it will be annihilated or force-converted to the Iron Faith, the White Faith, or the Violet Faith. OR The Red Faith will be sent into the Barbarians, to carve out a nation for themselves.
OOC: This will be different, determining the country. The Eastern countries will most likely throw their Red Faith into the Buggerites, while the further West you go, they will more likely crush them.
2. Kentus will fall under our protection
3. Ostava, will remain under our protection, and that of the Iron Lances until it is once more full of people, be it Faithful or Druid. The exception of this is Eastern Ostava, which will fall under Beurtgang control.
4. The slave trade of entire peoples will stop. The results of a raid is fine, but doing that to an entire nation or group of humans be they Faithful or Druidic is not acceptable.
5. The Iron Lancers will be given full privileges to search the Faithful nations of the North, at their own discretion for any signs of a rebirth of the Red faith whenever they want, regardless of which nation they are. The only nation exempt, is the one that would be created by the Red Faith being thrown into the Buggerite hordes.
 
1. The Red Faith will only exist as a name, and all who follow it will be annihilated or force-converted to the Iron Faith, the White Faith, or the Violet Faith. OR The Red Faith will be sent into the Barbarians, to carve out a nation for themselves.
OOC: This will be different, determining the country. The Eastern countries will most likely throw their Red Faith into the Buggerites, while the further West you go, they will more likely crush them.
2. Kentus will fall under our protection
3. Ostava, will remain under our protection, and that of the Iron Lances until it is once more full of people, be it Faithful or Druid. The exception of this is Eastern Ostava, which will fall under Beurtgang control.
4. The slave trade of entire peoples will stop. The results of a raid is fine, but doing that to an entire nation or group of humans be they Faithful or Druidic is not acceptable.
5. The Iron Lancers will be given full privileges to search the Faithful nations of the North, at their own discretion for any signs of a rebirth of the Red faith whenever they want, regardless of which nation they are. The only nation exempt, is the one that would be created by the Red Faith being thrown into the Buggerite hordes.

We have understood it as being accepted that Kentus would be acknowledged as a state with no duties to any other polities, and an independent entity. Otherwise, we find these terms acceptable and sign them so long as our Vahlshallan allies will join us.
 
OOC: The religion should be called Teidenism Aynarism and should become the state religion of Ulyan.
 
Hey name recycling is not cool, Optical. I have plans for that NES.
 
Wait, I name recycled?

...Oops. Now I think of it, that does sound familiar.

I'll change it, just let me think of another good name. :p

EDIT: Done,, changed to Aynar/Aynarism. Finding good pseudo-Oirat names is hard, you know. :p
 
We have understood it as being accepted that Kentus would be acknowledged as a state with no duties to any other polities, and an independent entity. Otherwise, we find these terms acceptable and sign them so long as our Vahlshallan allies will join us.

Vahlshallah will join you in these terms, but only if Kentus remains independent of druidic control.
 
Kentus notes that it desires at least one nation's protection at this time, elsewise it would be destroyed by the opportunistic Woadites before the end of the season.

Iron Lancers note that the Kentus may prove to be a example of Armorica's true stance on the Faith, if it does pass under Armorican protection. As long as the rights of the True Faith are not, and no longer violated with their newer understanding of the Faith or by Buertgang or Vahlshallah's Red Faith, the Iron Lancers shall accept either's overrule of Kentus.

Also, orders for every nation except for Keltia and those who had given excuses are due. I shall tally 'em up and start updating. You still got a couple hours to sneak in your orders before the confidence drop, and you might get an entire day before I start working on the events in your part of the update.

Update WILL COME by Friday, but hopefully I will be able to finish it sooner, like say, wednesday.

EDIT: This is not a minigame, but after you reach the Bronze Age and develop real chariots, I would like a quick blurb about how your culture sees and deals with chariots and Charioteers. Are the charioteers nobles, or just hired soldiers? Or are they civilized barbarians or even mercenaries? Do you use Horses to pull your chariots, or have you yet to find them and still rely on Asses/Oxen? I guess what I mean is that this is semi-mandatory, with failure to comply within a couple turns meaning... I uh, lose respect for you or something. :p
 
On chariots in eastern seas and Levea:
not quite as scary as the Knights, who ride Giant, vicious, intelligent dogs and have a whole pack a similarly sized ones around them.
while requiring a bit more training, some of the better charioteers have even begun to use the hounds also to draw their craft, multiplying thier terror factor, and require less steering being intelligent enough to steer themselves. but most stick to horses, who are easier to train.
 
This peace, is currently between us and the Beurtgang, depending on the contents of Tycho's up and coming story, he will be allowed to sign as well.

1. The Red Faith will only exist as a name, and all who follow it will be annihilated or force-converted to the Iron Faith, the White Faith, or the Violet Faith. OR The Red Faith will be sent into the Barbarians, to carve out a nation for themselves.
OOC: This will be different, determining the country. The Eastern countries will most likely throw their Red Faith into the Buggerites, while the further West you go, they will more likely crush them.
2. Brigantia will fall under the joint protection of the Beurtgang and Armorica. The Countries of Dumonos, Lundein, and Kentus will be restored to their former borders, with Lundein fully joining Dumonos.
3. Ostava, will remain under our protection, and that of the Iron Lances until it is once more full of people, be it Faithful or Druid. The exception of this is Eastern Ostava, which will fall under Beurtgang control.
4. The slave trade of entire peoples will stop. The results of a raid is fine, but doing that to an entire nation or group of humans be they Faithful or Druidic is not acceptable.
5. The Iron Lancers will be given full privileges to search the Faithful nations of the North, at their own discretion for any signs of a rebirth of the Red faith whenever they want, regardless of which nation they are. The only nation exempt, is the one that would be created by the Red Faith being thrown into the Buggerite hordes.

King Caedmon of Armorica
 
All I know is that all Keltica must be eradicated so all the spam will end ;)
 
This peace, is currently between us and the Beurtgang, depending on the contents of Tycho's up and coming story, he will be allowed to sign as well.

1. The Red Faith will only exist as a name, and all who follow it will be annihilated or force-converted to the Iron Faith, the White Faith, or the Violet Faith. OR The Red Faith will be sent into the Barbarians, to carve out a nation for themselves.
OOC: This will be different, determining the country. The Eastern countries will most likely throw their Red Faith into the Buggerites, while the further West you go, they will more likely crush them.
2. Brythonia will fall under the joint protection of the Beurtgang and Armorica. The Countries of Dumonos, Lundein, and Kentus will be restored to their former borders, with Lundein fully joining Dumonos.
3. Ostava, will remain under our protection, and that of the Iron Lances until it is once more full of people, be it Faithful or Druid. The exception of this is Eastern Ostava, which will fall under Beurtgang control.
4. The slave trade of entire peoples will stop. The results of a raid is fine, but doing that to an entire nation or group of humans be they Faithful or Druidic is not acceptable.
5. The Iron Lancers will be given full privileges to search the Faithful nations of the North, at their own discretion for any signs of a rebirth of the Red faith whenever they want, regardless of which nation they are. The only nation exempt, is the one that would be created by the Red Faith being thrown into the Buggerite hordes.

The Sanguinary Emperor signs His name to this treaty, on behalf of the Bloody Throne and all its territories.
 
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