Mafia: The League of EEEEEVIL!!! [Game Thread - Concluded]

Jarrema isn't mafia. That's not a power or anything that is just reading him.

azzaman333 said:

How do you know Azula stayed on spaceman?

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Good Question. I guess I don't. But doesn't matter anyway as she was blocked.

Vote: civgeneral for being lurkish, to get him to speak up.

Autolycus hasn't posted once, so I assume he will be WOGged soon.

Not sure what voting on a WoG-worthy inactive like Autolycus aims to achieve when there are active killers on the loose.

Kennigit is being very suspicious

By the way, just FYI, I forgot to check in during the Night due to RL stuff. Neverwon sent me PMs warning me I was being targeted, so whoever stopped that, kudos.

And maybe contact me for night stuff.

Darth Feather said:

Vote: civgeneral for being lurkish, to get him to speak up.

Autolycus hasn't posted once, so I assume he will be WOGged soon.

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Uh, the initial point was the same as your vote on CivG, to try to spur him into a bit more activity. Then he didn't show up at all...

I'll move my vote to unvote; vote: Mat93 because I remain unconvinced about the case against Kennigit and there's a bunch of lurkers who need to be prodded other than CivG.

taillesskangaru said:

Not sure what voting on a WoG-worthy inactive like Autolycus aims to achieve when there are active killers on the loose.

Kennigit is being very suspicious

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See above. I'm willing to give Kennigit a bit of leeway on his Autolycus vote because I did the same thing, and his vote was also very early in the day.

taillesskangaru said:

By the way, just FYI, I forgot to check in during the Night due to RL stuff. Neverwon sent me PMs warning me I was being targeted, so whoever stopped that, kudos.

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The theory seems to be that Kim Possible moved her kill order, rather than someone protecting you.

These are the people I don't know anything about:

Autolycus
CivGeneral
classical hero
Darth Feather
edse
Jarrema
Mat93
SamSniped
sirtommygunn
topsecret
Visorslash


If you are on this list, please contact me and tell me a little bit about yourself.

Takhisis said:

What the hell? Are you equating double voters with tiebreakers? They're quite different.

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I'm equating it to any ability that does not show up in a public tally but effects the lynch......

Kennigit said:

though from my role, I have a minor-enough-character-but-rememberable-for-anyone-who-watched-the-show that a robot bad guy could be in anything really.

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This I find hugely scummy...and likely to be a cover role. Also that kennigit seems to be against testing his ability in any way...

vote:kennigit

I also read spaceman as being scummy, but due to my habit of reading him wrong, I think hes probably townie/evil.

For the record I have had a fairly good working relationship with Kennigit so far this game. For instance he has known who Azula was from early on*. Had he been a scum he would likely have had Azula attacked by now. His story has also been consistent from very early on, well before it was public knowledge.

Does this mean that he is free of suspicion, or that he is not participating in a brilliant gambit to gain trust? No. But I would much rather focus our attention on some of the relatively unknowns in this game first.

And we can test his ability. We just need to have a tied vote with him on one of the candidates.



*This is not to say that Azula is entirely free of suspicion either. Her claim is that she is a vig. This is entirely possible, but she could also be a SK. Either way her continued existence is an asset for the town, and we can deal with that thorny question a little bit later in the game.

I would like to see a tie between vote: sirtommygun and edse.

This would put two people I know nothing about under some pressure, while at the same time testing kennigit’s ability.

Go.

unvote;Vote: edse in response to BSmiths plan to find out wether Kennigit is an asset or a lie.

So, I still think a priority for today is understanding why visorslash got injured. Neverwonagame didn't see his injury coming (again, could be change of orders in extended night phase), so something was "nondeadly" about the attack on visor.

Would a scum have a nondeadly attack? I doubt it. Would visorslash just survive a scum attack? I doubt it, since spaceman is confirmed semi-bulletproof [don't know if he can get injured, etc]. Could a townie have a nondeadly attack (that only injures)? Quite possible. But then would we really have an injury vig, and then 2 vig's (azula and the robot)? Someone would probably be a serial killer in that case.

Mat93 said:

This I find hugely scummy...and likely to be a cover role. Also that kennigit seems to be against testing his ability in any way...

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Quite the opposite, as I could have easily proven it if the very people who deny my role the loudest (takhisis, spaceman) changed their votes from kingmorgan and neverwonagame respectively to civgeneral.

the final vote was 7 (8 because of my vote) on KM (townie), 6 on Neverwonagame (townie), and 2 on civgeneral. Spaceman and I were on KM at the end, and takhisis was on neverwonagame.

Changing spaceman and my vote to civgeneral would go to 5 on KM, 5 (4+1) on civg. Switching takhisis from neverwonagame to civgeneral would make the final tally 6 (5+1)-5-5 and civgeneral would have been lynched.

Though, that was last minute and there were time constraints. But once neverwonagame went public there was good enough reason to believe he was town, so we couldn't have done any worse on the lynch since KM did flip town.

Go ahead and tie the lynch on me today if you want. I am a double voter and townie, through and true. Now wherther or not am I a townie, that'd be for you to decide. But I'm tired of people saying I don't have that ability.

Kennigit said:

So, I still think a priority for today is understanding why visorslash got injured. Neverwonagame didn't see his injury coming (again, could be change of orders in extended night phase), so something was "nondeadly" about the attack on visor.

Would a scum have a nondeadly attack? I doubt it. Would visorslash just survive a scum attack? I doubt it, since spaceman is confirmed semi-bulletproof [don't know if he can get injured, etc]. Could a townie have a nondeadly attack (that only injures)? Quite possible. But then would we really have an injury vig, and then 2 vig's (azula and the robot)? Someone would probably be a serial killer in that case.

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Somebody has claimed an investigative ability that results in the target getting injured.

BSmith's defense is relatively convincing, but I personally would like to see a tie between sirtommy and Kennigit instead, as that would be a more direct test of Kennigit's claimed ability. unvote: vote: Sirtommy

Also, can we have a tally please?

I'll wait for the tally to cast a vote, so I can hopefully tie the vote in some manner.

Case on Kennigit makes no sense to me. Doublevoter, ergo scum?

There is no case for Kennigit, The guy is a cold blooded villain!
Unvote: Vote: Sirtommygun

Kenny can now prove his ability

Tally:
Autolycus. (Kennigit)
Kennigit: (Takhisis ; Jarrema ; taillesskangaru ; Mat93)
Mat93: (azzaman333; )
sirtommygun : (BSmith1068 ; spaceman98 ; Sprig)
Edse: (Darth Feather; )

There is no case on him? Then he is a confirmed mafia.

@Zack: We meant that he had an untestable claim. We can put it to the test by sprig's… idea. sirtommygunn is never a bad lynch in any game.

Buddhafish said:

I'll wait for the tally to cast a vote, so I can hopefully tie the vote in some manner.

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This is extremely weird, not to say, scummy. Buddhafish is better than Kennigit.
ffos: Jarrema has to explain his weird votes as well.