Mafia: The League of EEEEEVIL!!! [Game Thread - Concluded]

I always knew that was a bogus claim. What was your real ability?

Oh, choxorn hasn't told posted the Role PMs yet, but azza and I did have linked cover roles and those roles' abilities were the mason pair.

Takhisis said:

I always knew that was a bogus claim. What was your real ability?

Oh, choxorn hasn't told posted the Role PMs yet, but azza and I did have linked cover roles and those roles' abilities were the mason pair.

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Publicly claiming Mason partners was probably a bad idea as that was always going to attract the SK's attention to kill off "confirmed" townies.

Frozen In Ice said:

Publicly claiming Mason partners was probably a bad idea

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That's an understatement...

I didn't have an ability of my own to use to fake a town power role like the 93ers did. And I had been asking to get at the killers sooner than that…

Jarrema said:

(well, THEN maybe someone would believe me that I cannot be SK... after all, there was a kill when I was roleblocked...)

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No, you most definitely cannot be me, that would be weird

Frozen In Ice said:

Publicly claiming Mason partners was probably a bad idea as that was always going to attract the SK's attention to kill off "confirmed" townies.

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In hindsight, I definitely wouldn't have done it. Takhisis would've had to have made up a role claim, but my actual role (50% chance of being unaffected by night actions) was believable enough as a town role. Plus, excluding my mason claim, I thought I'd bought myself very good cover with my play.

Well, hindsight's always perfect sight.

Kennigit said:

plot twist: I really wasn't a double voter

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You actually were, it just never made a difference.

Jarrema said:

I think my abilities were powerful, but they were good for a single guy, that SK is in the end, no matter what abilities he has. I enjoyed my role much, part of it was that I was prepared for scenarios like getting blocked (well, THEN maybe someone would believe me that I cannot be SK... after all, there was a kill when I was roleblocked...)

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Yeah, and even if you were a beast at night, you could be lynched as easily as everyone else during the day. And honestly, immunity to night actions looks suspicious as hell if people find out, like if scanners get no result from you.

The night before you died, three different people tried to target you.

Hey! Post the events of each night!

For those who haven't seen it yet, there is a new large game in sign-ups. It's an ASOIAF parody.

My competence went up very slightly in this I suppose. I managed to figure out a few people were innocent and conspired with spaceman98 until I was killed. Problem is as the Dead QT explains- it didn't do any good.

choxorn said:

You actually were, it just never made a difference.

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says who!

Says the GM! Ha!

Role PM's:​

The League of Evil:

Autolycus:



One of the last roles I made, one that got a kind of lazy ability.

On this and some other scanning abilities: There were 4 scanners with abilities like this that could see some seemingly random thing about someone, all 4 of which could catch one of the mafia with their scan. As Autolycus pointed out, this one could catch azzaman, since Kim Possible is very Disney and Natasha Fatale is very not Disney. Like all of the scanner abilities, it would give very few positive results- the only other characters in the game that had a show on Disney Channel itself were Kim and Drakken, though I also would have given a positive result for David Xanatos, since Gargoyles was made by Disney (and Disney owns ABC, anyway)

As you'll see, most of the scanner abilities didn't make much sense, with the exception of Crocker's magic-scan. But, then again, a lot of the abilities I came up with didn't make much sense- As with a lot of games of this type of hosted, I eventually ran out of ideas.

I also ran out of ideas for PG's, leading to many "outlive this group of people/this group of people needs someone to survive" PG's that everyone in that group had. This PG applied to the group of "Dr. people" which was actually just Doofenshmirtz and Drakken (Claw, being actually Inspector Gadget, obviously didn't count).

BSmith1068:



I admit it: I really only put this role in the game because TV Tropes.

I came up with the idea for his ability while myself being trapped for hours on the TVTropes website while I was trying to think of something to do for his role.

One of the 3 members of the "We want money" PG, the others being Le Quack and Plankton. Giving him that is kind of iffy, since what he really wants is immortality- but money is a close second, and I wanted one more person in the group.

Buddhafish:



A rather fun role, it was more useful for injuring people than scanning people due to the scan's inherent randomness.

Basically, it had a 20% chance of copying one of the other four scanners' abilities, a 10% chance of giving some other random bit of info about a character, and a 10% chance of being a VC scan.

It also had a 20% chance of giving a false result (or 30%, for the VC scan), but Buddhafish never got any false results from this. He was stopped from using it a ridiculous number of times, though- he targeted Verarde Night One (who was also killed by Jarrema), was roleblocked Night Three, targeted the hiding Frozen Night Four, and forgot to send in orders Night Seven.

One of the 3 members of the "CONQUER THE UNIVERSE!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!" PG group, the other two being Megatron and Gorrath. Vilgax would probably also fit, but he was actually Dexter, so he doesn't fit.

CivGeneral:



I had fun writing the background description in this PM.

Not a terribly useful ability that I figured would have only really been useful at the end of the game to see if the number of people with claimed active abilities was different from the number of people actually doing things at night. CivGeneral never actually used the ability, which makes me wonder if I should have made it Passive.

His PG was kind of like Dooku's PG to put Z's in his posts in Darths and Droids. I added a few more letters because I figured just J would be easier than Z, and M and O are common enough that putting them in wouldn't be too much trouble.

He failed it on his second post by forgetting to post a J, and didn't post at all in Day Two. Le sigh.

classical hero/Frozen In Ice:



Frozen should probably win the late-game innocent MVP award, or at least share it with Kennigit. He played well. He mostly hid behind spaceman, then behind dcmort at the end.

That hiding ability gave me a headache a few times because of how it interacted with other abilities:

-On Night One, classical hid behind sprig who was roleblocked by BSmith, which redirected the roleblock to classical, which stopped him from hiding, which prevented the redirection, which made the hiding work again... I ended up going with "The roleblock is redirected to classical, but any other abilities will work as if he wasn't hiding" which didn't matter, because nobody else targeted classical or sprig anyway.

-On Night Four, Frozen hid behind spaceman98, and tailless bussed himself and spaceman. How does that even work? Does Frozen hide behind tailless? Does tailless's bus get redirected to Frozen? I decided not to even bother trying to figure out how that worked, since nobody else targeted either tailless or spaceman that night. Buddhafish did try to probe Frozen, but I decided that Frozen's hiding ability stopped almost anything intended to target him whether or not tailless's bussing ability would redirect them.

-On Night Five, Frozen hid behind spaceman, tailless bussed spaceman and Darth Feather, Darth Feather was the intended target of two kill attempts, and dcmort used his ability on Frozen. Again, how does that work? If tailless's ability has priority, both attempts go to spaceman and Frozen's hiding goes to Darth Feather, making nothing much happen. If Frozen's does, tailless's ability might switch to targeting him and then the killers hit him instead of spaceman. What I ended up going with was that roleblocks were the only thing that could get through Frozen's hiding ability, so dcmort roleblocked him and the killing attempts both hit spaceman.

Note to self: If you put more than one redirection ability in a game, figure out how they interact with each other ahead of time.

Darth Feather:



The Ability-Copier. He could technically copy the mafia's abilities, but not their Team Kill Ability, and the only mafia who had other active abilities had the same abilities as their cover roles. And he couldn't copy Jarrema's abilities at all.

The Full List of abilities that would have been useful for his PG:

-BSmith's
-Buddhafish's
-edse's
-robbiecon's
-sprig's

Sprig's, BSmith's, and Buddhafish's are all obvious, edse's and robbiecon's are partly for use and partly for flavor reasons.

He had BSmith's and Buddhafish's abilities when he died, and I decided that was good enough for me to give him a PG completion.

edse:



As Zack noted at some point, I really hated the vote-controller from Columbo, but that was largely because it could force people to self-vote, by bribing them, which made no freaking sense at all. This one was at least logical, and didn't come with the ability to make people kill themselves.

The only time edse ever actually used it was to make Takhisis vote for him- on the same night Takhisis died.

He completed his PG by outliving Zack and BSmith despite not actually doing anything for most of the game, which made me kind of sad.

Gone 3 The Celt:



I didn't actually create this role with Gone 3 the Celt in mind, but I figured he'd probably enjoy it when the RNG decided to give it to him.

Instead, he disappeared as soon as the game started. Come on, man! You were The freakin' Joker and you weren't around to play him! Are you serious?

Kennigit:



He played a solid game and did the best detective work of anyone in the game in pointing out dcmort and Mat's scumminess. His double vote never actually made a difference, though it came close a few times.

The list of Animals who Hector would have rather had his brain stuck to than Boskov:

Mojo Jojo (CivGeneral)
Le Quack (Zack)

Plankton and the Brain probably would have also been better, if they weren't so tiny.

KingMorgan:



He was the sender of the messages in the first two updates. Both times, I forgot about his ability until after I actually posted the update and had to edit it in. I suck.

A member of the group of shadowy badasses seeking to survive. The only other one was spaceman. In retrospect, giving groups of people a survival VC wasn't a great idea when one of them had an ability that made surviving incredibly easy.

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I'm up against the 30,000 char limit and the Superb Owl is on in 20 minutes. I'll post the rest of the role PM's after the Seahawks win.

Ten minutes before your team plays in the Super Bowl, chox?

Neverwonagame3:



Maybe at some point I'll be able to make a game without a night-delayer ability, but it was not this game.

He was the cause for the delays Nights Two and Three, and indirectly Night Four because Darth Feather copied his ability Night Three and used it Night Four.

Nobody was saved by this ability, thanks to some hilariously bad innocent coordination, but it helped get the early town network together.

Nintz:



Probably the most confusing and interesting ability I've ever come up with, even I wasn't entirely sure how it was going to work when I made it. It seemed a bit odd since it couldn't really be used to directly ask people about being mafia, but it probably could have been used to find results if it was used creatively (getting someone to lie when they should have told the truth or tell the truth when they should have lied, or something like that). I didn't know if it would work well, but I wanted to see what it would do. If nothing else, it would be very interesting.

So of course, azzaman killed him on Night One.

Interestingly, he was the only one of the "Outlive this group" PG people who had a unique PG- Basically, he wanted to outlive Zack and CivGeneral (no, Boskov doesn't count as intellegent and I'm not sure what biological group Plankton belongs to), but neither of them cared about outliving him.

parts/Visorslash:



The second of the four "Can scan one of the four mafia" scanners. He could catch Inspector Gadget, who is very clearly is at least part-robot, whereas Dr. Claw doesn't appear to be, unless you count the movie Claw and his prosthetic Claw-Hand.

When I post the night actions, it will become readily apparent that none of the four scanners hit the mafia they could actually catch, but a few of them hit a mafia they couldn't catch.

He belonged to the "Evil Laugh Survival" PG group, which included him and Skeletor (SamSniped).

Putting a Vengeful Lynchee in a Survival PG Group was not my best idea ever.

robbiecon:



One of the first roles I came up with, and one of the few where I actually came up with an awesome ability that made sense for them. But, then again, Danny and Vlad have so many powers that almost anything would make sense for abilities for either of them.

Full List of People Immune to his Ability: Megatron (because he's a robot), Danny (because he's also a half-ghost), and Aku (because he's... well, I'm not sure what my original justification was, but something to do with being an immensely powerful, demonic, master of darkness)

If he used his ability on one of the mafia, it would only make them target someone with their cover abilities, though it also would have stopped them from night-killing if he used it on the person that tried to kill. Using it on Jarrema would have redirected his second kill ability and done nothing if Jarrema had used his first.

Like Nintz, he was an interesting role that died too spoon.

SamSniped:



Not much to say about this, just a vengeful lynchee who never appeared and I had to give the actual use of the vengeful lynchee to another dead player (Zack).

sirtommygunn:



Drakken, Scanner #3. He could catch Samurai Jack, who very much doesn't have any facial hair, while Boris Badenov clearly does.

He didn't do much.

SouthernKing:



A combined Tracker/Watcher, basically, but incapable of seeing whether he'd gotten a result on someone because of Tracking or because of Watching.

List of characters he needed to outlive to complete his PG: Azula, Kim, Danny, Dexter, and Mandark, which probably means I made it a bit too hard.

spaceman98:



Winner of the World's Most Effective Bulletproof Townie Award, 2014 (and probably every other year). Took 4 attacks (one each from the mafia, the SK, the Vig, and the Vengeful Lynchee) and gave Frozen a safe hiding spot for most of the game. Could have been injured and made vulnerable by Takhisis (though the mafia did consider doing that, I guess they decided it wasn't worth taking two nights to kill him) and killed by Jarrema's kill-through-protection ability, but neither of those things ever happened.

Note to self: Bulletproof Townies suck as much for the Mafia as Unlynchable Mafia suck for the town. Avoid using them.

sprig:



The innocent vigilante. He hit only townies and died early at the hands of Takhisis.

He was sort of a part of the early innocent network with BSmith, Visorslash, Buddhafish, and Neverwonagame. And sort of Darth Feather and tailless.

taillesskangaru:



The Bus Driver.

As others noted, he had a chance to save sprig or BSmith on the night that they both died because Darth Feather knew they were being targeted, but got confused by what they told them and ended up bussing himself with spaceman.

Never really came close to completing his PG, though maybe he could have if he'd bussed BSmith or Sprig with one of the mafia on Night Four.

topsecret:



Scanner #4, the only scanner with an ability that made sense, even though it gave up negative results for some things it wouldn't be expected to, namely Azula and Danny (the mafia he was intended to catch- he wouldn't see Danny as being magic but Wuya, his cover role, is very, very magic). I apologize for making this role a bit screwy, topsecret.

List of characters that actually were magic: Aku (Darth Feather), Skeletor (SamSniped)

Amusing Note: Most of the role PM images come directly from Google Image Search, which gave me some awesome pictures, some lame pictures, and slightly less porn than I expected. This one, while technically gotten from Google, was originally a three-image GIF that I copied and pasted so that all three parts of it were visible at once.

Verarde:



A two-use Day Vigilante. I expected he'd use the ability at least once, but he died on night one without ever actually doing anything. Not much to say here.

Zack:



You have no idea how funny I found it that Zack's name rhymed with the name of his role.

On night two, armed with the knowledge that he, robbiecon, and spaceman were the mafia's kill targets, he attempted to protect... spaceman, who he didn't think was actually bulletproof.

Of course, robbiecon also redirected Zack at Takhisis, so... yeah. I would have had one incredibly silly situation if Zack had attempted to protect robbiecon instead and then force by robbiecon not to protect him.

The Alliance of Good:

Team PM:



Somewhat embarassingly, I forgot to include this very important part of the PM when I first sent it:

Team Kill: One of you can go out and kill someone at night. If you do, you can't use any other abilities you might have.

I also, although I had given them the names of their partners in their Team PM, had forgotten to replace the <player> placeholders in their role PM's with the names of their teammates.

Those mistakes were why I extended the night on Night One, because it was only fair to give the mafia some more time when they'd been badly underinformed by my mistakes.

And their individual role PM's:

azzaman333:



Had a chance of being immune to night actions, which never really did anything, and led to an amusing night two when sirtommygunn and classical both targeted him, both abilities worked, and classical's ability didn't redirect sirtommygunn's.

He did most of the killing because the Mafia were afraid Takhisis had attracted too much attention and dcmort and Mat both had abilities that weren't passive.

I wanted to see how giving two mafia the cover of being mason partners would work. Answer: one died as soon as the other did, though azzaman did PM a few people the night before Takhisis died saying he was suspicious of Takhisis.

As mentioned by myself and others in a few of the QT's, the mafia were largely did in by how much they associated with each other, and they all became a lot more suspicious as soon as Takhisis was killed by Jarrema.

dcmort93:



The massive differences between the justifications for his ability and his cover ability were why I didn't tell people exactly why they were roleblocked- because how was I supposed to explain this?

His jailing ability never actually interfered with any of the other killers, mostly just stopping scan results. I actually forgot exactly how it worked once or twice (I thought it protected from just kills instead of everything), which led to some results I shouldn't have given, but it probably didn't matter much.

Wuya's PG was somewhat interesting, but I didn't have to bother figuring out exactly what would count for it because it wasn't an actual PG.

Mat93:



He used his ability to do random things to people the first five nights, then became the Alliance's killer after Takhisis and azzaman died.

It couldn't copy any ability in the game- it could only copy Active (so he couldn't copy spaceman's, for instance) Night (so he couldn't copy Verarde's) Abilities with exactly one target (eliminating multi-target abilities like tailless's or no-target abilities like CivGeneral's), that didn't require any other input (which meant Nintz's ability couldn't be copied), and it couldn't copy the mafia's kill ability or Jarrema's kill abilities, leaving him with the following list of powers his ability could become:

Any of the 4 main scanning abilities (Autolycus, parts/Visorslash, sirtommygunn, topsecret)
Buddhafish's injuring/random-scanning ability
Zack's protection ability
sprig's vigilante killing ability
BSmith's roleblocking ability
Frozen/classical's hiding ability
Darth Feather's Ability-Copying ability
dcmort's jailing ability
Gone 3 the Celt's Random-Targeting ability
SouthernKing's Tracker/Watcher ability

And yet, despite this sizable list, it copied Zack's ability 3 times and Autolycus's twice. And he was targeting Buddhafish both times it became Autolycus's ability.

The RNG is weird.

Takhisis:



The role intended to be the Alliance of Good's main killer, capable of killing people most of the time and hurting people when he failed to kill them.

Instead, he attracted loads of attention right at the start, and the Alliance got scared about Trackers or Roleblockers or something and decided he should lay low and let azzaman kill instead.

It really didn't make much of a difference, spaceman was the only person they failed to kill all game anyway, but still, you have to wonder what would have happened if that had been Takhisis redirected at spaceman instead of azzaman...


And last, but not least:

THE SERIAL KILLER:

Jarrema:



I'm sure you can all guess why I decided to make Dexter a Serial Killer.

For the first few days, people kept wondering if he was a vigilante. I guess that's possible, but seriously? You think I'd put two vigilantes against one anti-town team, in a game of this size? Okay, Verarde was a day-vig, but he could only kill twice and never got the chance to do so, but two night vigilantes with no restrictions? That would be unbalanced as all hell!

He basically had two ways of killing, both of which would grant him immunity to something- sending out his robots to kill people would make any ability that targeted him auto-fail, granting him immunity to, among other things, roleblocks and scans. Going out himself would make him vulnerable to those, but would hit through almost anything to kill the player he targeted- it would hit through protection, spaceman's bulletproof ability, and Frozen/classical's hiding ability. It was still vulnerable to being redirected at Frozen/classical if he targeted the person they hid behind (or being redirected by robbiecon or tailless, for that matter), and he could be roleblocked if he used his second ability instead of his first, but otherwise, it could hit through anything.

And for most of the game, he didn't even need these abilities- he was almost never targeted at night and spaceman was the only person he failed to kill (he only used his second ability once, on robbiecon on night two, which would have further made the night two situation regarding Zack and robbiecon's decisions funny)

A good game by Jarrema, and I must commend you for making Visorslash not think you were an anti-townie for a change (though he did only say he didn't think you were Mafia).

The list of night actions, from my GM QT, The Omniscient Council of Vagueness:



Takhisis getting roleblocked made the Alliance paranoid for a little bit, until a few days later when they found out that dcmort was the one who had roleblocked him because of tailless.



The epic failure to save anybody with full knowledge of who was dying seems kind of bad, but, funny as it was, there wasn't a lot the innocents could have done- spaceman couldn't die, robbiecon couldn't be saved by anything but roleblocking Jarrema, and Zack couldn't protect himself.



Sprig attacks spaceman, for the second night in a row! Good job on being persistent, Sprig, even if persistence was futile in this case.



Probably the only night where the failure to save anybody despite knowing who the nightkill targets were can be blamed on anybody. tailless, you dun goofed. And Buddhafish, you switched your target from Takhisis to the hiding Frozen, so you dun goofed harder.



Redirection abilities are silly when they interact like this.

On another note, Zack gave a weird reason for why he was trying to kill Darth Feather that I didn't understand at first. Then he clarified that he had confused Darth Feather with Darth Caesar and was trying to kill Darth Caesar for being an epic lurker.



I think this was right about the time people became suspicious of Jarrema.



dcmort at about this point decided protecting himself with his ability was the best idea. For some reason.



Buddhafish, you fool, you almost made the bulletproof townie vulnerable, and instead made the hider vulnerable! You've brought ruin to us all!



Except, the mafia did not decide to kill Frozen on the one night that doing so was actually possible. Mat and dcmort, you dun goofed. Well, okay, maybe it wouldn't have mattered, but still!





On both the last two nights, Frozen hid behind dcmort (correctly realizing he was the last mafia), dcmort roleblocked instead of killing to give himself some credibility, and the scanners both attempted and failed to scan spaceman.

And that's all of the nights.

On another note, Zack gave a weird reason for why he was trying to kill Darth Feather that I didn't understand at first. Then he clarified that he had confused Darth Feather with Darth Caesar and was trying to kill Darth Caesar for being an epic lurker.

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The true mark of a mastermind.

Night 5 really couldn't have gone much worse for us. Takhisis killed leaving me screwed, spaceman confirmed (in the town's eyes) as not-AoG, and the 93s did nothing of any real use with their powers.