North King
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Well, that was the question to get you all to sit up and take notice.
The real question is:
If Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) was adopted instead of the current winner takes all system, would you then change your vote? You can assume the Electoral College is in place or not, but would you change your vote?
For those of you who need to know:
Essentially IRV is when you elect a president or whatever, you either rank the candidates, in other words, list your candidates from those you would like to the ones you would most dislike, for example, a ballot might look like:
1. Nader (
)
2. Kerry
3... etc...
In which case your vote would be for Nader, but if it came down to Kerry vs. Bush, then you would still be counted as voting for Kerry over Bush.
or
1. Badnarik
2. Bush
3... etc...
In which case your vote would be for Badnarik, but if it came down to Kerry vs. Bush, then you would still be counted as voting for Bush over Kerry.
Thus, the first choice of every voter would be counted first, and whichever the top two were in the election would face off in another round where the ballots would be recounted and whichever of the top two you ranked higher, your vote would count as cast for them,
OR
You put on the ballot the person you would like most, then in a speicial election after this one, you would vote again, this time for whichever of the top two you prefer.
Thus, you could vote how your heart told you to, and still vote for the other guy who is the lesser of the other evils. Like if you were a Nader or Badnarik voter and you really liked them, but didn't want to see one of the two major candidates in office, you could still vote for the lesser of the two evils and thus not feel guilty at stealing votes from one candidate or another.
I think that the above wasn't too clear, but hopefully you get the picture, voting for a third party would not put the other candidate in office.

If Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) was adopted instead of the current winner takes all system, would you then change your vote? You can assume the Electoral College is in place or not, but would you change your vote?
For those of you who need to know:
Essentially IRV is when you elect a president or whatever, you either rank the candidates, in other words, list your candidates from those you would like to the ones you would most dislike, for example, a ballot might look like:
1. Nader (

2. Kerry
3... etc...
In which case your vote would be for Nader, but if it came down to Kerry vs. Bush, then you would still be counted as voting for Kerry over Bush.
or
1. Badnarik
2. Bush
3... etc...
In which case your vote would be for Badnarik, but if it came down to Kerry vs. Bush, then you would still be counted as voting for Bush over Kerry.
Thus, the first choice of every voter would be counted first, and whichever the top two were in the election would face off in another round where the ballots would be recounted and whichever of the top two you ranked higher, your vote would count as cast for them,
OR
You put on the ballot the person you would like most, then in a speicial election after this one, you would vote again, this time for whichever of the top two you prefer.
Thus, you could vote how your heart told you to, and still vote for the other guy who is the lesser of the other evils. Like if you were a Nader or Badnarik voter and you really liked them, but didn't want to see one of the two major candidates in office, you could still vote for the lesser of the two evils and thus not feel guilty at stealing votes from one candidate or another.
I think that the above wasn't too clear, but hopefully you get the picture, voting for a third party would not put the other candidate in office.