Imperium Offtopicum IV: Third's the Charm?

Due the recent increase in tensions all 2.3 million troops.( 2.1 million are from mobilization). Will be in war readiness, and attack any foreign troops entering our territory, or ships entering our territorial waters, unless they gain consent from the Patagonian navy to enter its waters, for the time being only military ships are targeted. So it will not affect trade, also so not to ruin the economy women are now working in the factories, as men are in the armed forces. But this is temporary as we do not see war happening its just for defensive purposes.
 
@ NCSA, Could you sell me (the Yellowish nation in SA) Buenos Aires?

Also, Basically.. WW1..
France declared war on NEA which made Brazil Declare war on them, then EF declared war on Brazil so did Japan and Japan declared war on France..
I believe thats what went down :)
 
@ NCSA, Could you sell me (the Yellowish nation in SA) Buenos Aires?

Also, Basically.. WW1..
France declared war on NEA which made Brazil Declare war on them, then EF declared war on Brazil so did Japan and Japan declared war on France..
I believe thats what went down :)

It's worse, some people are at war with France and ME. What did I do to be so hated?
 
I could answer that, Domination, and I'm not even playing!
 
Even 1 our of 200 in the military would be over 5 million.:eek: Not even including some of my other provinces.

That is correct. :p

I must ask the Baltic Empire why they think a trade embargo on Brazil, or even NEA will do anything.

Like Brazil's, mostly symbolic.

Who knows what the Baltics have to deny, however.

If France does not call down the attack within 3 days (Real time) I will invade them. I will release their land when they are willing for peace.

Hopefully they will, or else I will have to summon the alliance into emergency session.

If he'd attacked France, I might send supplies, but WOULD NOT have attacked. France is the aggressor though. Tanicius, you claim Omega is the moron and you are the crusader of reason, PROVE IT.

He has almost started so many wars, he makes Japan look like an innocent kitten who you want to snuggle all day.

He:

1. Interpreted ANTIEDO's formation as "threatening" the Americas.

2. Launched 1000 missiles at a single vessel. Such waste of firepower makes one questionably insane or just horribly inefficient.

3. In response to ANTIEDO, he started "Operation: Stuff it to Europe" or whatever, and dared colonise Portugal to prove his point against "imperialism," and say that Europeans had no right to settle in PARTS OF EUROPE.

4. Has been an aggressive leader overall(as much IC or OOC).

5. Continues to keep his head stuffed in the sand whenever we explain the GUN acronym's "United Nations" being TOTALLY different from the international organization.

6. Tends to read too much into what we say so it says what he wants us to say.

I:

1. Have worked to strengthen ties between European nations, and ties between Europe and the world.

2. Gave ANTIEDO the push to become GUN, so we were no longer a discriminatory organization.

3. Have extended the olive branch to any nation that is willing to take it; to date, only Japan and the NEA have really refused.

4. Attempted to forge bonds between NADTA and GUN in the interest of world peace, but they - as in their de facto leader - would have none of it.

5. Have limited our expansion and imposed several restrictions on ourselves so as to please the Americans and other powers, rather than charging into battle as Omega did with Portugal.

6. Run a military democracy(less so, due to the taxpayers being enfranchised more and more), yet we're nowhere near as aggressive as NEA; we honor our troops in our democracy and know that war is Hell, and thus we do not throw their lives away.

7. In contrast to his starting multiple crises, I have been one of the main nations to try and diffuse them, along with Canada and others.

Any ships passing with 200 miles of Brazil is subject to a boarding to be checked for weapons or other supplies going to France. If the ships do not comply. they will either be boarded or sunk. The exception is NADTA vessels and Pacifistan at the moment.

We will avoid Brazil's territorial waters, as they are thankfully fairly easy to avoid, but we are not happy about increased shipping costs to Patagonia.

All our ships are increasingly weaponised, however; our generous military budget allows a fair supply of "water marshals."

If you outright declare war though, however futile, I will fight in defense of Omega.

Futile?! New England plus NADTA plus you plus the Eastern forces only amounts to 5 nations. GUN has 8, several of which are well-established.

I'm not advocating war, heavens no, but the continuing assumption that NADTA - which has imploded - can threaten us is increasingly laughable. We do not threaten NADTA, so it'd be nice if they would stop threatening us - not to mention questioning our battle capabilities!

All NADTA members are expected to be at war. Omega was attacked.

So... NCSA?

It should be renamed the Tri-Conservative Pact. :lol:

OK, i dont have the time to read all this. Whats happened in the last 20 pages or so.

Hey. My internet was down yesterday. I just came back and I'm behind by about 27 pages. I'm trying to get caugt up, but what has happened?

Muhahaha. Two for one.

Basically, war broke out:

Mathalamus kept country hopping and Omega and Domination kept bullying him and declaring war, so France attacked NEA, in turn causing Japan and the EF to attack France.

NADTA has dissolved: only the NCSA and NEA remain in it.

GUN has expanded into a global, 8-member alliance.

The Commonwealth has more or less replaced NADTA as the "balancer" to GUN.

Japan and the Eastern Federation have invaded Brazil for whichever reason; they along with New England have attacked Suriname(Math's country).

Are you my ally or enemy?

Petrograd Virote's state - be t3h neutralz, bra.
 
That is correct. :p



Like Brazil's, mostly symbolic.

Who knows what the Baltics have to deny, however.



Hopefully they will, or else I will have to summon the alliance into emergency session.



He has almost started so many wars, he makes Japan look like an innocent kitten who you want to snuggle all day.

He:

1. Interpreted ANTIEDO's formation as "threatening" the Americas.

2. Launched 1000 missiles at a single vessel. Such waste of firepower makes one questionably insane or just horribly inefficient.

3. In response to ANTIEDO, he started "Operation: Stuff it to Europe" or whatever, and dared colonise Portugal to prove his point against "imperialism," and say that Europeans had no right to settle in PARTS OF EUROPE.

4. Has been an aggressive leader overall(as much IC or OOC).

5. Continues to keep his head stuffed in the sand whenever we explain the GUN acronym's "United Nations" being TOTALLY different from the international organization.

6. Tends to read too much into what we say so it says what he wants us to say.

I:

1. Have worked to strengthen ties between European nations, and ties between Europe and the world.

2. Gave ANTIEDO the push to become GUN, so we were no longer a discriminatory organization.

3. Have extended the olive branch to any nation that is willing to take it; to date, only Japan and the NEA have really refused.

4. Attempted to forge bonds between NADTA and GUN in the interest of world peace, but they - as in their de facto leader - would have none of it.

5. Have limited our expansion and imposed several restrictions on ourselves so as to please the Americans and other powers, rather than charging into battle as Omega did with Portugal.

6. Run a military democracy(less so, due to the taxpayers being enfranchised more and more), yet we're nowhere near as aggressive as NEA; we honor our troops in our democracy and know that war is Hell, and thus we do not throw their lives away.

7. In contrast to his starting multiple crises, I have been one of the main nations to try and diffuse them, along with Canada and others.



We will avoid Brazil's territorial waters, as they are thankfully fairly easy to avoid, but we are not happy about increased shipping costs to Patagonia.

All our ships are increasingly weaponised, however; our generous military budget allows a fair supply of "water marshals."



Futile?! New England plus NADTA plus you plus the Eastern forces only amounts to 5 nations. GUN has 8, several of which are well-established.

I'm not advocating war, heavens no, but the continuing assumption that NADTA - which has imploded - can threaten us is increasingly laughable. We do not threaten NADTA, so it'd be nice if they would stop threatening us - not to mention questioning our battle capabilities!



So... NCSA?

It should be renamed the Tri-Conservative Pact. :lol:





Muhahaha. Two for one.

Basically, war broke out:

Mathalamus kept country hopping and Omega and Domination kept bullying him and declaring war, so France attacked NEA, in turn causing Japan and the EF to attack France.

NADTA has dissolved: only the NCSA and NEA remain in it.

GUN has expanded into a global, 8-member alliance.

The Commonwealth has more or less replaced NADTA as the "balancer" to GUN.

Japan and the Eastern Federation have invaded Brazil for whichever reason; they along with New England have attacked Suriname(Math's country).



Petrograd Virote's state - be t3h neutralz, bra.

Tanicius, France attacked us, we cannot allow that. I will leave the mainland for 3 days.

Tanicius, I know we have no chance against GUN, so I want to negotiate, but France did declare war on my ally. Remember someone once said "No matter whether it helps us or not, you must help your allies," (This is a paraphrase, but you said it.)

Are you willing to help me negotiate an end to the wars?

Yeah, the NADTA fell, Owen, why did you let us fall, help us again!
 
Are you willing to help me negotiate an end to the wars?

Ideally, we will not have to activate our security treaty, as war is always a weapon of last resort.

Therefore, we can try to convince France to peacefully end the conflict, but there are no guarantees.
 
So... NCSA?

It should be renamed the Tri-Conservative Pact. :lol:

I don't follow.

Muhahaha. Two for one.

Basically, war broke out:

Mathalamus kept country hopping and Omega and Domination kept bullying him and declaring war, so France attacked NEA, in turn causing Japan and the EF to attack France.

NADTA has dissolved: only the NCSA and NEA remain in it.

GUN has expanded into a global, 8-member alliance.

The Commonwealth has more or less replaced NADTA as the "balancer" to GUN.

Japan and the Eastern Federation have invaded Brazil for whichever reason; they along with New England have attacked Suriname(Math's country).

OOC: So why was Math allowed to switch countries like that?

IC: And NADTA is dead??? I don't want to join an imperialistic organization like ANTI EDO. What is THe Commonwealth. I think I might want to join that.

So who's at war with whom and who's allied with whom now?
 
OOC: So why was Math allowed to switch countries like that?

IC: And NADTA is dead??? I don't want to join an imperialistic organization like ANTI EDO. What is THe Commonwealth. I think I might want to join that.

So who's at war with whom and who's allied with whom now?

NADTA isn't dead, but fading. I'm still a member, as is Omega, and at least one other person. I hope Owen has enough integrity to help us as well even if officially not a member.

OOC: Math, well, that's why I want to get rid of him, because he's a little cheapskate, but the world won't let me.
 
I'm Going to repost my Countries info because it was forgotten on the first page, And Frankly I forgot where it was..

Nation Name: Republic of Patagonia

Capital:Santiago

National Languages Spanish & English.

Developmental Rating: First World

GDP: 428 Billion USD

GDP Per Capita: 18,290 USD

Population: 23.4 Million

Social Policy: A moderately socialized country, with Universal Healthcare, medium to high taxes.

Largest City: Santiago, 3 Million.

Government: A Representative Democracy, with a President elected every 4 years, an a Senate elected to a term of 6 years, All people over 18 can vote, including Women.

Foreign Policy:Allied to Gun, is mostly peaceful unless threatened tries to find peaceful solutions but if all else fails will respond accordingly.

Army: A well trained fighting force of 400,000 in peacetime, have a draft system able to bring the army up to 2 Million if needed.

Navy: A well trained navy, with 3 super carriers and various smaller protection vessels.

Airforce: A well trained air force, with 500 Fighters and 350 Bombers, can effectivly achieve air supperiorty over Argentina and Chile.

Flag:
patart.jpg
 
Tanicius, honestly, if it weren't for this war, I would consider requesting GUN membership and signing a defensive pact with Omega, because honestly, I realize NADTA is fading (Thanks Owen)

But, I can't because of imperialist France.
 
I don't follow.

Your nations are all fairly conservative, are they not?

And NADTA is dead??? I don't want to join an imperialistic organization like ANTI EDO. What is THe Commonwealth. I think I might want to join that.

ANTIEDO is DEAD.

It is a pile of ashes, from which the phoenix of GUN has risen. We are no longer European; we are human, open to membership from all nations. Patagonia, NATAR, and China can give you proof that Eurocentrism has been eradicated. Three more members, and Europe won't even have a majority.

So who's at war with whom and who's allied with whom now?

Japan and EF vs. Brazil
Japan, EF and NEA vs. France
Brazil and NEA against Suriname

Or some such.

NADTA isn't dead, but fading. I'm still a member, as is Omega, and at least one other person. I hope Owen has enough integrity to help us as well even if officially not a member.

ATTACK, Canada, and Pacifistan were all the other members, the latter two resigned and the first resigned from the whole game.

So it is a three member alliance.

Tanicius, honestly, if it weren't for this war, I would consider requesting GUN membership and signing a defensive pact with Omega, because honestly, I realize NADTA is fading (Thanks Owen)

But, I can't because of imperialist France.

You can't because of Patagonia too. :p
 
Tanicius, honestly, if it weren't for this war, I would consider requesting GUN membership and signing a defensive pact with Omega, because honestly, I realize NADTA is fading (Thanks Owen)

But, I can't because of imperialist France.

We would reject any entrance of your nation into the alliance, you are hypocritical and our people do not like you.

Any ships passing with 200 miles of Brazil is subject to a boarding to be checked for weapons or other supplies going to France. If the ships do not comply. they will either be boarded or sunk. The exception is NADTA vessels and Pacifistan at the moment.
While this will slow trade with other nations, (Suriname, France) if you attack any of our merchant vessels or seize the cargo it will be translated as a declaration of war, do not attack any ship carrying the Patagonian Flag. We wish to stay neutral.
 
The Commonwealth isn't an organization meant to balance against GUN, the point of our organization is entirely to help each other in case of attack and not to play up rivalries
 
Ok, since I surprisingly do sleep, here's my epic response:

Canada agrees to mutual protection with Pacficistan

Great! :goodjob:

@Pasifican, Canada I respect your withdraw from NADTA, but won't you help your former ally one last time in its darkest hour?

No, I pulled out precisely because of something like this. Frankly, you were asking for it with your constant warmongering. I tried to tell you that you shouldn't just attack Math out of hand, but you wouldn't listen to me.

Owen, where do we diplomatically stand at the moment? I mean other than the war.

We aren't allies, though Pacifistan does seek to maintain friendly relations with Brazil. For now, we remain neutral in this conflict.

I called off the invasion of Math, while he is troublesome its not worth a world war, and certainly not one I can't win.

Maybe you should have thought of that when THE WHOLE WORLD was warning you about this.

Owen, I beseech you, not as a NADTA member, but as a fellow American, to help me in this crisis. I am being invaded.

No, you guys brought this on yourself. You have to realize that there are consequences for being warmongers. Some times you have to play nice.

My invasion of Math was independent, and I didn't expect help with that, I didn't even expect help from resulting wars, but I've given Cull everything he wants, stopping the attack on Math and government reform, but Cull still invades in an unequal, unfair war.

See, this is what happens when you attack a nation without a justifiable reason.

God dammit Domination, it's called "multi-quote".

This.

I think I will have to drop out again. I had time, but I'm about to host my second consecutive mafia game. I don't plan on returning. I wish everyone good luck.

Can I get Alaska again?

Are you willing to help me negotiate an end to the wars?

Yeah, the NADTA fell, Owen, why did you let us fall, help us again!

It was partially you, but mostly NEA. I admittedly had some qualms about the alliance the minute NEA started making forays into Europe. What really tipped it was you and NEA attack Mathalamus out of hand. You guys were using NADTA as a deterrent so you could bully around anyone you wanted, and I was not going to be a part of the inevitable war that would come as a result of that. Especially with GUN growing as it was.

OOC: So why was Math allowed to switch countries like that?

No reason really, but to be fair, NEA and FCSA were being total jerks to him, which is one of the reasons why I dropped out of NADTA.

IC: And NADTA is dead??? I don't want to join an imperialistic organization like ANTI EDO. What is THe Commonwealth. I think I might want to join that.

Yup, NADTA is dead. All that remains is you, FCSA, and NEA, as me, Canada, and ATTACK have dropped out. The new alliances are the Commonwealth and GUN.

NADTA isn't dead, but fading. I'm still a member, as is Omega, and at least one other person. I hope Owen has enough integrity to help us as well even if officially not a member.

I will not. I dropped out precisely to avoid a stupid war like this. Frankly, I'm glad I dropped out when I did.

OOC: Math, well, that's why I want to get rid of him, because he's a little cheapskate, but the world won't let me.

Because you launched an unjustified, unprovoked, and frankly unfair attack against him. As much as I dislike Math, you simply cannot do that and not expect repercussions.

Tanicius, honestly, if it weren't for this war, I would consider requesting GUN membership and signing a defensive pact with Omega, because honestly, I realize NADTA is fading (Thanks Owen)

Like I said, NADTA was really little more than a front for NEA to push his imperialist agenda, so, you're welcome :goodjob:.[/QUOTE]
 
@ DroopyTofu.
Since you control Buenos Aires could you perhaps sell it to me? (The Yellow nation in Arg/Chile).
I've asked a few times and you have not answered :\
 
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