Imperium Offtopicum: Ab Antiquo

Update 2

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The commander of the Egyptian garrison in Libya cannot understand what is happening. Memphis had ordered him to move his forces out to take control of Cyreneica, which the Jews are surrendering to Egypt peacefully. Instead, here was a Judaica army marching towards them across the desert. A scout he had sent to investigate the matter came back missing his nose and a demand from Judaica that he surrenders the province or die.

For a week he hesitated, as the fearsome Jewish army moved ever closer. Then word came that Memphis itself had fallen. Turns out Judaica had launched a surprise attack on Kingdom from both east and west. The Pharoah was caught completely by surprise, and barely managed to escape to Upper Egypt with a few loyal troops. Colonists about to depart for Greece were caught in the Delta and instead sent to serve the Judaican ruler in Yerushalayim.

The commander in Libya looked around his base. It didn't have proper walls. He barely had any soldiers, and they were barely armed. The Egyptian army was well-drilled and well-disciplined but here, out in the Libyan Desert, his ragtag forces in their make-shift fortress could never have held out against the Jewish army. When the Judaican general entered the capital of the province demanding his surrender, he duly did so.

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The Greek general realized he was about to die.

He had volunteered, a few months ago, to lead the force which was to take Constantinople. The plan was to rely on speed - the Greeks would enter Macedonia, smash the Byzantine troops sent there to take the province, and then rush into Constantinople before they even knew what hit them. He was full of confidence - the Byzantines were numerically superior, true, but quality-wise the Greeks could match the Byzantines in weaponry and organization.

No amount of discipline or bravery could save the Greeks from annihilation that day, however. The Greeks had been marching rapidly across the Macedonian country when suddenly confronted by a massive Byzantine force attacking from two different directions. The Greeks attempted to stand their ground, but soon it was clear they would be overwhelmed by sheer numbers. A hasty retreat quickly turned into a rout. The Byzantines, in no mood to compromise in battle as in diplomacy, butchered all Greeks they find, prisoners included.

The General, along with a few of his bodyguards, though wounded, managed to survive the initial bloodbath. After seeing his army so utterly shattered, he was a broken man. They took refuge in a small village, where the locals took pity on them and hosted them for the next few days. Eventually, Byzantine scouts found them. At this point the General had lost the will to live and willingly knelt to receive the executioner's sword.

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As the fall of the Egyptian capital reach the provincial governors, they must now decide whether to remain loyal to the apparently doomed empire.

Fortunately for the Pharoah, the Governor of Middle Egypt is a true patriot. His province remained loyal to Egypt. As for Upper Egypt, the presence of an army deters any talk of secession. But now the nation face an uncertain future.

Battle Results:

Macedon - Battle
Byzantium vs Greece

Armies: 2 - 1
Quality: 6.3 - 2
Modified: 8.7 - 3.0
*Byzantium: +38 (RNG)
*Greece: +47% (RNG)
Byzantine victory
Greek army destroyed

Libya - Siege
Judaica vs Egypt

Chance of Failure - 0%
Judaican Victory

Lower Egypt - Siege
Judaica vs Egypt

Chance of Failure - 0%
Judaican Victory

Map - Territories:
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Map - Military:
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Stats:
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It is now Turn 3

Judaica had launch a surprise attack on Egypt. Libya and Lower Egypt fell quickly due to having no forts or army to speak of to defend the territories.

Macedon is now proudly Byzantine, which continue to increase the size of its armed forces. The Greeks are at a real risk of being obliterated; they are lucky (or not) that with a low army quality the effect of losing their army (-20% quality) is too small to register.

Egypt got lucky, but from now on, if you lose your capital, all provinces without an army has a 50% chance of defecting, and provinces with an army has a 25% chance of defecting. A province can defect to another country or revert to being a neutral territory. So defend it at all cost!

The turn ends in approximately 48 hours.
 
Rome will spread into Corsica, Sardinia and the Balearics. I believe that's three provinces, but we'll also claim Raetia if it isn't. We will upgrade our four forts to level II and build three level I forts in Padus, Umbria and Sicily. The other IX (9) sestertii will go into culture.
 
I build a fort on Macedon and spend the rest of my income on Army quality. I move my army in Macedon into greece and move the army in the province east thrace into Macedon.
 
classical hero: Alright. I will call landlubber. If he's not ready then I'll just dissolve Sumeria. Tell me if you reconsider.

Ravus Sol: Would you like to officially help me as co-GM? I need someone to keep track of all the diplomacy.

What would that entail? I don't want any bias in my favour after all. If it's just keeping up with an official Mid-Day Diplomacy update that should be fine i think... :) PM me if you need to fill me in on anything.

Illyria expands into Tyras, Hypanis & Taurica

With 16 Income;
- the Peaceful Farmers of Illyria "upgrade" the level 2 lands in the empire to level 3 (Lusatia, Vistula, Tyras & Hypanis) costing 8
- Also "upgrade" the level 4 lands into level 5 (Illyria & Dacia) costing 8
- Put together a single navy into the Black Sea

Judica shame on you! :eek: Sneaky Sneak attacking the defenceless Egypt! I was all happy that someone was finally being peaceful :(

Darth of Byzantine, i can only assume from your silence that you are planning to fight Greece to the death. Very un-honourable behaviour.
 
ilduce where did you say about the 9 gold into army quality? This is the post where you lay out your income expenditure (and as you don't need gold to create navies or armies the 2 gold for that ended up in Army Quality instead.)

Build a navy in the sea between me and Turkey (1 gold)
Build a logistical army on my northern most province (1 gold)
Build a fort in both territories bordering Byzantium (2 gold)
Upgrade both my northern territories (6 gold)
Claim the rest of Greece (two territories) and macedon. If my claim from Macedon last turn stands, claim crete instead

Where did you state you wished to change it?

+ Bad Darth! Bad!

+ Has anyone realised that West India Man has the most army quality in his peaceful corner and the Hitties have a ridiculous amount of income per turn! :eek:
 
We the Council of Elders have decided that we shall claim the Chersonessus Tauricus as per agreement with Vindex, and both provinces in the Peloponessus: Achæa and Laconia.
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We shall build a fortress on each territory which does not have a fort in it yet (Laconia, Achæa, Taurica, Ionia, Phrygia, Rhodes, Crete, Lycia, Phrygia and Bithynia)
A logistical army shall be raised in Achaea ad a siege army will be gathered in Ionia. Fleets will be deployed, one each to the Mare Ægeum and the Mare Ionicum.

We have 22 income to spend, after 3 have been expended on maintaining our armies and fleets.
8 income will be spent on improving our Navy Quality and another 7 on our Navy Quality.
Rhodes and Lycia will be improved at a total cost of 7 Income.
 
Takhisis of Troy; The Illyrian people had allready sailed on the sea to claim Taurica just a few posts before yours, perhaps you would instead be interested in isle of Cyprus to your south east? Judica could not claim it and sneak attack at the same time so it is currently "up for grabs"
 
ilduce where did you say about the 9 gold into army quality? This is the post where you lay out your income expenditure (and as you don't need gold to create navies or armies the 2 gold for that ended up
Actaully I pmed him my new orders after asking if I was allowed to change them. And proof that I change my orders was those ones don't have an army going into Macedon like my new orders. Here was what the pm said (cutting out some questions about how amphibious assaults work):
Build 1 logistical Army
Spend the rest of my money on army quality
Attack Thrace through Macedon (attacking both regions)
Please tell me if this is possible

Here was his response:
It is possible provided you win in Macedon.
This clearly meant he acknowledged that I changed my orders. I had 10 gold. 1 used to build an army, 9 into army quality. Yet my army quality is listed at 2 in the battle.
 
um you don't say "9" you say "rest" without saying if you want to change the order previously given about upgrading territory. Seeing as two of your territories are now 4 instead of 3 the money must have gone into there.

Again. Armies don't cost money to MAKE. They only cost money for upkeep which is automatically taken out of your income in the Stats section. So when you said "build 1 army" that doesn't read like you have used any income. Thus when you say "rest of my money" a reader wouldn't assume you have redone your income expenditure.

Of course I don't know myself, but i'd assume when you said "Rest" taillesskangaru assumed you meant the 2 gold that you had mistakenly tried to use on army/navy creation.

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Either way you and Darth are still quite equal. He drew first blood but only has 3 army quality and 2 income while you can dump all your 10 income into your own army quality.
 
Again. Armies don't cost money to MAKE. They only cost money for upkeep which is automatically taken out of your income in the Stats section. So when you said "build 1 army" that doesn't read like you have used any income. Thus when you say "rest of my money" a reader wouldn't assume you have redone your income expenditure.
My first one was perfectly balanced adding up to exactly 10 gold (my income). there is no rest for the rest is 0. This was clearly a change in orders considering I told him before hand (in the pm) I was changing my orders. Also my income is the same as last time, so my territories were not upgraded.
 
I put all money to army quality and disband all armies. I build as many logistical armies as possible in middle egypt and divide them up half going west and half going east.
 
Like i said. I don't know. I'm just saying i can see where the misscommunication could have been.

But ONCE AGAIN, armies don't cost money to create. Armies don't cost money. You don't spend money to create armies. (Please don't make me think up different ways to try and say it)

You keep saying "spend x gold to create army". You don't spend that money. So obviously that money is the "rest" that i keep mentioning.

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Plus your territories are now level 4 when they were level 3. Go back and look if you don't believe me. Your income is 2 more but you now have 1 army and 1 navy and you pay for them constantly in upkeep. Check the Stats section. So that is why you have same income to spend.

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Is that clearer?
 
Nope but they cost upkeep the next turn. 2^(n-1)

So Upkeep;
1 Army = 1
2 Armies = 2
3 Armies = 4
4 Armies = 8
5 Armies = 16
6 Armies = 32
7 Armies = 64
8 Armies = 128

So at the moment Egypt can afford 4 armies comfortably. The only nation that could support 6 would be the Hitties.
 
ilduce, all discussion about your orders to my PM box please.

What would that entail? I don't want any bias in my favour after all. If it's just keeping up with an official Mid-Day Diplomacy update that should be fine i think... :) PM me if you need to fill me in on anything.

Pretty much. Just keeping track of all the diplomatic actions.
 
My one army is 'trained'.

I want to buy two more, and place them in Padus and Raetia, which I'll claim.

Put the rest into culture, please.
 
My one army is 'trained'.

I want to buy two more, and place them in Padus and Raetia, which I'll claim.

Put the rest into culture, please.

Um... Padus is Roman, and you don't actually own any of the territories on the mainland yet, so Raetia is out too.
 
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