Imperium Offtopicum: Ab Antiquo

Then it's a done deal.

ilduce349 said:

I quit this game. No offence taillesskangaru but the gming this game has been terrible. (The update came 6 days late and my orders were entered incorrectly.) Unless you replay the battle of Macedon with my actual orders, I am leaving this game. Gift all my territories to Illyria if thats not possible, just disband them

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I'm sorry, but if you send two separate orders then make it clear which order I should count and which I should leave out. That goes for everyone else.. I will try to check out ambiguities but if you don't make it clear in the first place then that's the risk you take.

I did say this game was experimental. I already apologized for the late update and, honestly, if I hadn't move that update many people wouldn't have sent in their orders in time.

Sumeria and Greece are now open. If they're not filled in by the end of this turn (scheduled for tomorrow, by the way, so get all your orders in! Now!) then I will disband both.

taillesskangaru said:

I'm sorry, but if you send two separate orders then make it clear which order I should count and which I should leave out. That goes for everyone else.. I will try to check out ambiguities but if you don't make it clear in the first place then that's the risk you take.

I did say this game was experimental. I already apologized for the late update and, honestly, if I hadn't move that update many people wouldn't have sent in their orders in time.

Sumeria and Greece are now open. If they're not filled in by the end of this turn (scheduled for tomorrow, by the way, so get all your orders in! Now!) then I will disband both.

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I am willing to take one of them, though I'm not sure if you'd rather give it to me or just disband them.

I am not as desparate as to call up people from the ban list.

If they're disbanded I'll stil claim Attica.

I'm sorry, but if you send two separate orders then make it clear which order I should count and which I should leave out. That goes for everyone else.. I will try to check out ambiguities but if you don't make it clear in the first place then that's the risk you take.

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If I don't make it clear, then use the more recent one. Because when I send you new orders, it means I disliked my old orders

Any updates that has happened since I lasted posted?

Domination3000 said:

I am willing to take one of them, though I'm not sure if you'd rather give it to me or just disband them.

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Go away you bloodthirsty tyrant!

CivGeneral said:

Any updates that has happened since I lasted posted?



Go away you bloodthirsty tyrant!

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I PBed you in IOT II just because Tan wanted the game to end anyway and I wanted to have fun ending it

Though I'd take peace if you'd like

Domination3000, get out of my thread.

ilduce349, stop spamming the thread with your complaints. I am not changing the battle results, and you've quit. If you want to discuss it further you can PM me but I am not going to change my decision.

Update 3 = Post #121 (on page 7 unless you have edited the post count per page)

Diplomatic Affairs

Anarchy of Sumeria and Greece
Both nations have lost their leader and descended into Anarchy. If a new leader doesn't seize the throne soon then the empires will crumble and disband.

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The Manoeuvring of Europe - Continued
The Celts manage to secure The Kingdom Denmark as a Ally by succeeding Germania Inferior!

They are now ready to move against their foe but have so far not raised any new armies or advanced...

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The Eastern War
The Vindex people of The Steppes invade The Bactrian Kingdom! The war like most other early ones seems to have no Casus Belli. The Bactrian Kingdom calls on their neighbours the Holy Hittie See to come aid them against their agressive neighbour.

The Vindex move all their bordering armies into neighbouring territories and quickly build forts there.

The Bactrians quickly raise an army in every border province and move their current army to defend their defenceless capital.

NOTE TO NEDIMNAPOLEON: You can't expand peacefully and claim provinces while in a war. When you sign a cease fire or peace treaty with your neighbour then you can continue expanding into unclaimed territory.

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The Black Sea Sale

Takhisis said:

I thought that you could not claim any territories that were not adjacent to territories you've owned since the beginning of this turn?

• If that is so, my claim stands.
• If not, I'll withdraw that claim and:
  • if ilduce's territories revert to wilderness, I'll take Attica
  • If they're inherited by someone else (he's replaced) or he continues playing, I'll take either Pontus or Cyprus instead, after negotiating with our Hittite neighbours.

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You can claim territory that is adjacent by a land province or a sea area. As we are both Connected to the Black Sea (Pontvs Evxinvs) we can claim any area bordering that.

Greek Territory is currently in anarchy, Although i guess someone could attempt to claim it... But i think the violent Darth Ceaser of Constantinople might get angry if anyone else tries to claim it.

I am willing to change my claim from Crimea (Taurica) to Sarmatia above it. I would however feel more Comfortable with a public Defensive Pact along with this now that Greek Resistance to Constantinople has crumbled.

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Egyptian War - Calling for International Aid
Egypt calls for help from the political stage. This could be done through a ally in the war, or a nation could gift the Egyptians some gold to improve their army.

They build as many logistical armies as possible (4) in middle egypt and divide them up half going west and half going east. They also dump all gold into Army quality. Will anyone aid the Egyptians?

Troy publically states that they will not get involved on either side of the Squabble

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Diplomatic Information

Current Up to Date Claims


Current Treaties & Wars


Demographs

I change those armies to desert fox. No need to rush and get myself destroyed.

Ravus_Sol said:

I am willing to change my claim from Crimea (Taurica) to Sarmatia above it. I would however feel more Comfortable with a public Defensive Pact along with this now that Greek Resistance to Constantinople has crumbled.

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We agree to a defensive pact. However, if you attack other nations, we shall not join you in your war. We do not support preemptive strikes.

Ravus_Sol said:

They build as many logistical armies as possible (4) in middle egypt and divide them up half going west and half going east. They also dump all gold into Army quality. Will anyone aid the Egyptians?

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I thought you could only have 1 army per tile?

Too busy. Dropping out

I put an army in my eastern-most territory in case of attack. This is not a response to anything.

The war in Egypt escalated sharply in violence, with both the Egyptians and Judaicans launching simultaneous offensives. The entire region is embroiled in conflict.

The Egyptians, numerically and qualitatively inferior, attempted to strike back at the invaders. They fought bravely; their tenacity in battle even surprised the Judaicans, who fully expected the Egyptians to flee in disarray. But it was not enough, in the end, to secure victory, and the Judaicans moved ever closer to Thebes.

Egypt - Battle
Judaica vs Egypt
Armies: 3 - 2
Base Quality: 78 - 46
Modified: 120.7 - 64.7
*+25% desert bonus for all armies
*+55% defensive bonus for Judaican armies in Libya and Nabataea
*-25% amphibious effect for Judaican army in Nabataea
*+50% defensive bonus for Egyptian army in Middle Egypt
*-25% amphibious effect for Egyptian army in Upper Egypt
After RNG: 120.7 (0%) - 82.8 (+28%)
Judaica Victory
Middle Egypt occupied by Judaica
One Egyptian army lost (-20% Army Quality)
Remaining Egyptian forces retreat

I calculated the battles in the Egyptian theatre simultaneously, since there are so many overlapping battles going on. From now on, though, when calculating battles I'm going to make two assumptions: armies which are engaged in a battle of their own cannot assist armies in adjacent provinces, and precedent will go to whoever sends in their order first. So, in this case link16 sent in his order first, so under this new system he would get to attack first.


In the east, Vindex opened hostility against the Bactrians. Unfortunately for the steppe-dwellers, they came underprepared, and the better-armed forces of Bactria easily repelled their invasion.

Sogdiana - Battle
Vindex vs Bactria
Armies: 2 - 2
Base Quality: 16 - 60
Modified: 16.8 - 67.5
*+10% training for Vindex army in S.Tigraxauda
*+25% defensive bonus for Bactrian army in Sogdiana
After RNG: 24.2 (+44%) - 69.5 (+3%)
Bactrian Victory
Vindex forces destroyed (-40% Army Quality)

Parthia - Battle
Vindex vs Bactria
Armies: 1 - 1
Base Quality: 8 - 33
Modified: 10 - 45
*+25% desert bonus for Vindex army
*+50% defensive bnous for Bactrian army
After RNG: 14.5 (+45%) - 45.5 (+1%)
Bactrian Victory
Vindex forces destroyed (-20% Army Quality)

Meanwhile, crisis after crisis have destroyed the nations of Denmark, Sumeria and Greece. Their empires have crumbled and their monuments now lie in ruins.

Map - Territories:


Map - Military:


Stats:



It is now Turn 4

Please check whether I have followed your orders correctly. I will fix it if you can show me where I made the mistake, though if your original order was ambiguous in the first place then you can't blame me for that.

Some quick remainders before we go on:

- ARMIES/NAVIES COST NO GOLD TO BUILD. I COUNT UPKEEP AT THE END OF THE TURN, NOT DURING IT!
- SPEND ON ARMY QUALITY AND NAVY QUALITY, OTHERWISE THEY ARE USELESS!
- SPEAKING OF NAVIES, USE THEM! ENEMY ARMIES CAN CROSS THE SEAS AT WILL IF YOUR NAVIES AREN'T BLOCKING THEM!
- YOU CAN CLAIM PROVINCES OVERSEAS! As long as it's not more than one sea away. The Celts, for instance, can now claim Denmark. Then, if he wants, he can claim Livonia in the same turn, too, since that shares the same sea tile as Denmark.

Also, expect some changes in the rules next turn. The changes will mainly concern spending orders and war/battle mechanics. Don't worry, if anything the changes will streamline the rules and make it easier to understand.

The turn ends in approximately 48 hours.

The Bactrian Kingdom​

We rejoice in our victories but we know that this is yet the beginning,my military plans are make a new army in all my bordering provinces and invade all three provinces and construct forts there.I will be fair to The Vedix Empire by offering them peace.
The peace agreement:
I want a tribute in gold (your income per turn-applys once)
I want the province of Varkana
I want you to not be able to claim one turn after the agreement
You will not be able to declare war on me for 8 turns

I claim the unclaimed territory in Greece, the unclaimed island in the Med, and the 3 wealth territory between the two green provinces. I put all income into army quality.

Instructions


Map Key:
A1: Raise a Desert Fox Army
A2: Raise a Desert Fox Army
A3: Raise a Desert Fox Army
F+: Construct a fort
F+1: Improve existing fort

Claims are in darker shade of green

Are you really adjacent to all of those, DC?

Anyway, Rome claims the Raetian province for itself as a natural expansion of its border. Armies and suchlike to follow later.