KrikkitTwo
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Well Later on, he should easily have both Shrines
It's the GS that adds (3 * pop) beakers, the GP adds (2 * pop) beakers. Either way your calculations show to me that using a GP on Monarchy is probably a waste- the cost of that tech is roughly half of what the GP can provide. Even for a Philosophical civ getting the first 5 Great People out is a big deal, I would not use a guy on Monarchy and save him for either another Shrine or a more expensive tech like Paper, Printing Press, or Education. Or even Philosophy, if Taoism can be founded. Fast Philosophy gives you the benefit of pacificsm if you are set on cranking out GPPs.Jet said:Each prophet will lightbulb (1000 + 3*total-population) * 1.5-for-epic beakers, or about 1650 beakers.
From here the prophet tech preference list is:
Theology (1170 beakers)
Divine Right (2808 beakers)
Monarchy (702 beakers)
Literature (468 beakers)
So plan to pop 5 more prophets and use them for:
1. Mahabodhi (see below)
2. Theology
3. Monarchy
4. Divine Right
5. Divine Right. I think we'll still be busy researching things other than DR. Let's see how far we can push this priest thing!
Then either pop one more prophet for the Kong Miao, or switch to scientists. Probably the latter. Alternatively I suppose Kong Miao / DR / DR is also a reasonable choice; we should still get DR pretty early.
joyodongo said:Well, I could get such a favourable map (the one in this game) one out of ten times. For example, the first 2 ones without hammers in capital or surroundings and horses 10 tiles far at least, the third oone was a bit better but without horses in capital. Of course, none like the initial position in this game. This is also the tendency I've seen in other games like this.
My question is: when you begin a game like this, do you wait for an initial good position or you take the first you get? I'm not trying to be malitious, I just want to know if it's just casual or not. As far as I've experienced, in Monarch, Emperor, you get very often very initial bad positions, bad positions that I've never seen in this kind of games.
aelf said:On second thoughts, there many points I made that conflict each other. I may just decide to build the Mahabodhi instead and have Thebes build the GL (then it will not be a GP city), but not before the city generates the following GP (which we need for either Theology or DR).
This may be a good idea, in my opinion. With all the mineable hills, the Sugar, Gems, Spices and the river with probably four places for a cottage, and the very central location, Barcelona looks a very good spot. After HR (Monarchy) there should be enough happy faces to sustain a good population with good commerce and production (Bureaucracy helps much better here then in Thebe). The Palalce is rather cheap now, the only pity I see is that by in order to get access to Sugar, the Obelisk looses its power, doesn't it?pigswill said:Is it worth moving the capital to Barcelona?
aelf said:Somebody rated this thread Terrible. Is it that bad?
That's what I am worried about. In the save file I hoovered over the cottages he has built. The lion share is just unworked, despite him being financial. He prefers to work unimproved forests sometimes over a cottage (producing what? An army?). And look at his capital: not a single cottage, all farms, and pop 9. It seems he's running some sort of a specialist economy there. He has three 8+pop cities. Ruining may be difficult... You'll have to take cities.NaZdReG said:tech towards construction, and hit HC asap to cripple him. take the 2 closest cities, and make sure before declaring peace to pillage any/all cottages he has. remember his financial bonus needs to be crippled so his tech lead will level off.
NaZ