Japan - Samurai cannot upgrade to Musketmen.

Sharples

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• Mar 19, 2014

• #1

Anyone noticed this? Just tried in BNW with them and they seem to skip Musketmen entirely and wait for Riflemen.

 

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Mr. Grieves

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• Mar 19, 2014

• #2

Musketmen are so marginally better compared to Samurai, that all it would do is mess up your fishing boat bonus.

 

ixias

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• Mar 19, 2014

• #3

I believe that this was part of the last patch where they upgrade to Riflemen. I know the Berserkers got moved up in the tech tree and I think they have the same upgrade path.

 

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arand86

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• Mar 19, 2014

• #4

It is meant for you to have more time to pump the samurai that start with an upgrade and faster great generals.

 

joncnunn

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• Mar 19, 2014

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This is intentional, it's to allow building more Samurai for their unique abilities (work boats & great general) before you can no longer do so.

I think the promotions carry over when promoted, but still you can't build more after the unit becomes obsolete.

 

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asmartlittleman

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• Mar 19, 2014

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Also isn't this some what historical as well. Japan did not adapt using gunpowder technology until the 1800s.

 

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• Mar 19, 2014

• #7

And they shouldn't upgrade to Musketmen, seeing as Samurai have the exact same combat strength as Musketmen. At least that's what I remember, maybe Musketmen are a little stronger.

 

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Mr. Grieves

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• Mar 19, 2014

• #8

Musketmen have 24 compared to 21 base damage, which is significant with promotions. But it would lose the fishing boat, general and Honor perks.

 

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• Mar 20, 2014

• #9

In same way less upgrades better, I believe even you do not loose any promotion when upgrade, units loose half of xp, so, next promotion will come soooo mach later.

 

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djvandyke

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• Mar 20, 2014

• #10

And you dont have to pay for a musket "upgrade".
It's win-win.

 

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caiman0815

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• Mar 20, 2014

• #11

asmartlittleman said:

Also isn't this some what historical as well. Japan did not adapt using gunpowder technology until the 1800s.

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That is certainly not true, japan adopted gunpowder technology long before that time

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashigaru
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanegashima_(Japanese_matchlock)

 

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KrikkitTwo

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• Mar 20, 2014

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Mutineer said:

In same way less upgrades better, I believe even you do not loose any promotion when upgrade, units loose half of xp, so, next promotion will come soooo mach later.

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I'm almost certain you don't lose any xp when upgrading (check the little +XP that floats up when upgrading.. it is the same as the XP the unit has)

 

DemonMaster

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• Mar 20, 2014

• #13

And if you play Japan, you can for a while build both Samurai and Musketman. I see no problem with it. Both will upgrade to Riflemen when times come.