Symphony D.
Deity
OOC: Seems our faith in rushing was not entirely misplaced. Stats aside, just need some PMs answered and I'm good.
1. You must not attack American military or civilian personnel, either living in or visiting the colony.
2. You must allow open (not neccesarily free) trade between your colony and the American nation.
3. You must not conspire to, nor act, in any way that would require the United States to defend itself.
4. You must send income to the US Federal Government when requested (but please see below)
Here are some rights you are guaranteed:
1. You may tax your citizens as you decide to.
2. You may have your own military, independent of the US Federal Government's military.
3. You will never be required to send more than 1/3 of your income to the US Government.
4. You may conduct separate diplomacy, although all agreements must be disclosed to the US Federal Government.
OOC: You have to admit though that a couple of marginal planets, with minimal sustainable populations in the low single or double-digit millions tops, little developed infrastructure and no notable exports suddenly cutting off all development funding and thereby politically isolating themselves does provide a pretty neat case example for why future colonists should not royally economically screw themselves over only to be left in the dust by their loyal contemporaries, though.It bothers me that these terran-appointed governors keep declaring independence, even though the whole point of being appointed is that they aren't responsible to the population but to their home nation.
OOC: You have to admit though that a couple of marginal planets, with minimal sustainable populations in the low single or double-digit millions tops, little developed infrastructure and no notable exports suddenly cutting off all development funding and thereby politically isolating themselves does provide a pretty neat case example for why future colonists should not royally economically screw themselves over only to be left in the dust by their loyal contemporaries, though.
It also provides a really good case for not using PCs as governors, if I do say so myself, because only they'd be that irrational and power mad.
OOC: Just because you're a loyal lackey to the notions of the motherland doesn't say anything about your trustworthiness, alex.OOC: You don't see me declaring independence from the PRC do you symphony? Am I not a PC?
To American Sol
From American Infinitas
Ah, yes, I had forgot about that. After thinking about it, how about making it seem we have declared independance, but we haven't actually. Sort of the opposite of Taiwan during the late 20th century. We aren't really independent, but automanous enough for people to think we are. What civilians don't know can't hurt them. Anything to stop the protests.
They'll find out their errors soon enough.OOC: You have to admit though that a couple of marginal planets, with minimal sustainable populations in the low single or double-digit millions tops, little developed infrastructure and no notable exports suddenly cutting off all development funding and thereby politically isolating themselves does provide a pretty neat case example for why future colonists should not royally economically screw themselves over only to be left in the dust by their loyal contemporaries, though.
It also provides a really good case for not using PCs as governors, if I do say so myself, because only they'd be that irrational and power mad.
I seriously have no concern with fighting you people unto the ends of time on this every time you want to question the morality of it, because your arguments really suck. Find some good ones (ones at all, really) or actually read what I say instead of making up propaganda you think represents what I'm saying. Otherwise, I will continue to score points off you spouting your ignorance and lack of literacy to the rest of humanity.Session Start Thu Apr 10 22:36:09 2008
[23:02:12] Symphony D.: Anyway, while you're here, what's the international pulse on the speeches issued on streaming?
[23:13:18] Chandrasekhar: The general perception is that some American diplomats are making asses of themselves.
[23:13:46] Symphony D.: Well, I figured that much. But I meant more in general toward the idea.
[23:14:56] Chandrasekhar: Since the definition of "ethnicity" has been cleared up and properly translated, there's not much disapproal, especially since your announcement means that plenty of nations foresee *their* ethnicities being among those that benefit.
It may be noted from the definition of the term "ethnicity" as given by President Kerensky on December 21, 2125 and the qualification "sharing those groups’s culture and language" by President Kerensky on May 16, 2125 that the obvious implication of "direct descendants" is the direct cultural descendants and current practitioners of the Russian heritage, which has by and large overwhelmingly originated from the East Slavic tradition.EU said:Your original statement declared that your settlers must be of East Slavic descent.Plainly and simply, that is racism.
The most basic details of the colonist passenger manifest have likewise been made available to confirm this finding.While this is ongoing, efforts are to be made to find the best colonists possible through a submissions process. Psychological profiling is to be conducted on applicants to find the best of them, and all of them are to be given standard survival training and self-defense courses comparable to at least a militia or law enforcement level. The nature of the endeavor means that they will have to be self-sufficient until such time as Zenit is connected to the Skimmer network.
Under the European flag, as European citizens, paying taxes to the European Union and fulfilling the general objectives of the European Union, yes, this is true. When it is the European Union which benefits from the efforts of these varied peoples, and not their homelands, the European Union has demonstrated itself to be quite willing to come to the aide of certain groups that it may aide itself and profit from their labors.EU said:Additionally, the European Union has significant numbers of colonists of non-European descent, due to the cosmopolitan nature of our cities. We have no troubles whatsoever with a system with which to help all races, nations, etcetera leave the confines of earth.
It includes the stipulation that those people be of broadly Russian descent, but that could just mean that they were born in the country, which isn't terribly racist or unusual.Symphony D. said:I state unequivocally that the surfaces of both Zenit and Soyuz themselves within the Zenit and Soyuz system are restricted solely to colonization efforts by persons of . . . those groupss culture and language.
We've got it in writing now.I might join earlier if stats are updated soon.