seasnake
Conquistador
I don't like Cleopatra for the same reasons above. She makes it in usually because of the need for more female leaders. Hatshepsut should replace here and Ramesses II would be a good second leader.
Agree. Cleo is silly. Ptolemy would be equally silly. But if they want a great leader who's female, just use Hatshepsut again. I actually like her, she's one of a few leaders that can be competitive without being a jerk.
Victoria and Catherine I understand. Wu Zhou did enough I get why you get put her in, even if she's not my first choice. Hatshepsut I WOULD understand. These are female leaders that are great and have intrinsic merit for their accomplishments beyond being women.
But Cleopatra just did not do anything, really. It's sort of like Boudica. Boudica was raped by the Romans and led a rebellion that took a year to crush. Big whoop. Cleopatra managed to seduce Caesar into helping her and Antony into giving Egypt preferential vassal status. Sorry, but I'm just not that impressed.