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April 29th, 2016 . The centennary of 1916 . Of Kut , which was the largest numbers of British surrenders up to that date . The last victory of the Ottomans , a feat of arms that needed to be celebrated ...
or something . People declare that they never heard of it . Because it's the secular mindset , the slave-to-the-West mindset which never wants such a glory to be heard . Being the military nerd and geek and anorak ı distinctly remember it was mentioned in history textbooks like 30 years back . Perhaps even the thing that it was a National celebration on par with Çanakkale . Now we learn the unpalatable truth . In 1952 as we become a NATO member , the British ask the celebrations to be stopped ; they are still smarting under their defeat . Do not expect Menderes mentioned by any means . He is Martyred Santa Adnan , a Muslim that got wronged by British back stabbing in 1960 . The New narrative much loves the idea that the old narrative was so selective in History ; but to tell "Muslims" of the 1950s were equally into eroding what came before is not a thing we are supposed to know . Syria '57 , Iraq '58 are invasions Ankara couldn't realise as well ...
centennaries are good places and times to remember . But then this Kut happens in an inconvenient era . The Shia continiously rebuff Ankara , hence there is no pilgrimage to the banks of Dicle down there . Which nets in a reduction of the stories of how our Arab brothers fought shoulder to shoulder with the Ottomans . Though the most heroic thing has taken place in a documentary on State Channel ; there are maps that show the flow of the battle where towns are shown by flags . To indicate ownership naturally . You can watch British flags appearing all over Iraq , only to be repulsed and cornered to that bend of the river by ... triple Crescents on a Green base ??? The triple Crescents on a Red base is still used as the symbol of the almost Racists ; the green one has not been seen as a flag like since the end of 1700s . The State Channel will of course defend itself by the idea that the documentary is part of series where great victories are celebrated and it's just a software issue , but the abolishment of the Turkish flag has begun . One wonders who coordinates such stuff in such TV programmes who are produced by professors from the University of "Civilization" . Hmphh , everybody knows idiots are to be taught history and what better way than claiming that they are like idiots with like common grounds ? You see , CFC like totally contributes to the cultural development of the country !
otherwise not exactly fresh stuff . It's a long running theme that the officers of the War of the National Liberation thing were all veterans of places like Çanakkale . So what if some also took part in Kut ? Allows to cut Mustafa Kemal to size . They have so far failed for the great majority of people or something . The old narrative told Kemal was a genius who singlehandedly won that war . Or battle if we are to dabble in the semantics of it . The New works on that it was a much bigger affair where Mustafa Kemal was just some guy , one of 38 division commanders present . 1919-22 can be buried under the dirt if only it is proven to be inconsequential ; attempting to that with the Great Muslim victory of Gallipoli where green turbaned Jihadists from the 15th Century arrived mounted on their horses to do battle still polishes the image of the pharoah Atatürk . If he wasn't decent , he would be like beheaded by green turbaned jihadists from the 15th Century ... What are you laughing at , the green turbaned guys are a staple of the narrative which is kept in low volume after it was discovered by the journalists ; have no doubt quite a few tour guides keep telling it for all those bus loads of people visiting the battlefields . And the green turbaned guys were first seen escorting F-100s to Cyprus in 1974 anyhow , you infidel unbeliever Westerners and stuff reading this rant .
more to the point the comparative analyses of Enver of Enverland , of Deutchland uber Allah , and Kemal are kept on . From which we learn Enver was far ahead in military tactics , organization , leadership and courage but Mustafa Kemal was an excellent politician . No , they are not attempting to prove Kemal stole the revolution . Syria has not fallen , nobody has managed to pray the Conquerors Prayer at the Umeyyad Mosque of Damascus ; the smarties can not find it possible to polish the military genius thing in A-K-P ! Imagine how hard a sale that would be ! The only success story was like the one where the Little Imperialist managed the skedaddle from SüleymanŞah with full co-operation from the seperatists and it was like on every single frontpage on the day after ... Keeping it to genius of Kemal in politics allows the smarties to prove how smart they are , a match , a perfect match so that they must be cleared and allowed to destroy the Republic completely . Which was the reason of the week of celebration of the Birth of Prophet Muhammed , so that their Muslimness over the rest of the country would be established . They are celebrating a month of that now as they are now attempting to be more Sunni over each other , they just needing a card to play to put some dirt on April 23 , the opening of the sacred Parliament where the Party currently holds a majority .
oh the tales , though . Where all those Muslim heroes aghast at some Christian , that von der Goltz dude sent to oversee them . You know the Westerners are cheekily suggesting that he was poisoned for the laurels of inevitable victory , out of sheer jealousy . Of course the said Westerners have no clue on the truth . The presence of von der Goltz made it impossible for the British to pay a Million Pounds , later increased to 2 by the august personality of charming Lawrence of Arabia and good manners in bed . So that the stigma of defeat could be avoided . Didn't help at all , though the father of the Turkish Army , von der Goltz was liked far more than the smarties of the day ever thought . As such they are reduced to bragging on how they turnerd down the bribe . Do not expect them ever to delve in pointless questions of whether the Uncle of Enver and the "Bearded" Nurettin would ever be offered bribes if there was not a belief that they would take it ... Mustafa Kemal didn't poison Liman von Sanders , did he ?
as for topical subject of suicide bombings ı have been in their likely zones only twice in my life , both in the city of Bursa . One was back in 2005 when this El Kaide dude just blew up on his way to a lightrail station . That missed me by like 2 hours . The one on the Wednesday was 7 hours late by comparision , though rather closer ... Whenever ı arrive in that city , the geography of travel inevitably takes me up in that street by the Grand Mosque of the city where ı drink some water from that fountain , like 5 meters from the presumed explosion area . This one will probably end up as a seperatist thing .
or something . People declare that they never heard of it . Because it's the secular mindset , the slave-to-the-West mindset which never wants such a glory to be heard . Being the military nerd and geek and anorak ı distinctly remember it was mentioned in history textbooks like 30 years back . Perhaps even the thing that it was a National celebration on par with Çanakkale . Now we learn the unpalatable truth . In 1952 as we become a NATO member , the British ask the celebrations to be stopped ; they are still smarting under their defeat . Do not expect Menderes mentioned by any means . He is Martyred Santa Adnan , a Muslim that got wronged by British back stabbing in 1960 . The New narrative much loves the idea that the old narrative was so selective in History ; but to tell "Muslims" of the 1950s were equally into eroding what came before is not a thing we are supposed to know . Syria '57 , Iraq '58 are invasions Ankara couldn't realise as well ...
centennaries are good places and times to remember . But then this Kut happens in an inconvenient era . The Shia continiously rebuff Ankara , hence there is no pilgrimage to the banks of Dicle down there . Which nets in a reduction of the stories of how our Arab brothers fought shoulder to shoulder with the Ottomans . Though the most heroic thing has taken place in a documentary on State Channel ; there are maps that show the flow of the battle where towns are shown by flags . To indicate ownership naturally . You can watch British flags appearing all over Iraq , only to be repulsed and cornered to that bend of the river by ... triple Crescents on a Green base ??? The triple Crescents on a Red base is still used as the symbol of the almost Racists ; the green one has not been seen as a flag like since the end of 1700s . The State Channel will of course defend itself by the idea that the documentary is part of series where great victories are celebrated and it's just a software issue , but the abolishment of the Turkish flag has begun . One wonders who coordinates such stuff in such TV programmes who are produced by professors from the University of "Civilization" . Hmphh , everybody knows idiots are to be taught history and what better way than claiming that they are like idiots with like common grounds ? You see , CFC like totally contributes to the cultural development of the country !
otherwise not exactly fresh stuff . It's a long running theme that the officers of the War of the National Liberation thing were all veterans of places like Çanakkale . So what if some also took part in Kut ? Allows to cut Mustafa Kemal to size . They have so far failed for the great majority of people or something . The old narrative told Kemal was a genius who singlehandedly won that war . Or battle if we are to dabble in the semantics of it . The New works on that it was a much bigger affair where Mustafa Kemal was just some guy , one of 38 division commanders present . 1919-22 can be buried under the dirt if only it is proven to be inconsequential ; attempting to that with the Great Muslim victory of Gallipoli where green turbaned Jihadists from the 15th Century arrived mounted on their horses to do battle still polishes the image of the pharoah Atatürk . If he wasn't decent , he would be like beheaded by green turbaned jihadists from the 15th Century ... What are you laughing at , the green turbaned guys are a staple of the narrative which is kept in low volume after it was discovered by the journalists ; have no doubt quite a few tour guides keep telling it for all those bus loads of people visiting the battlefields . And the green turbaned guys were first seen escorting F-100s to Cyprus in 1974 anyhow , you infidel unbeliever Westerners and stuff reading this rant .
more to the point the comparative analyses of Enver of Enverland , of Deutchland uber Allah , and Kemal are kept on . From which we learn Enver was far ahead in military tactics , organization , leadership and courage but Mustafa Kemal was an excellent politician . No , they are not attempting to prove Kemal stole the revolution . Syria has not fallen , nobody has managed to pray the Conquerors Prayer at the Umeyyad Mosque of Damascus ; the smarties can not find it possible to polish the military genius thing in A-K-P ! Imagine how hard a sale that would be ! The only success story was like the one where the Little Imperialist managed the skedaddle from SüleymanŞah with full co-operation from the seperatists and it was like on every single frontpage on the day after ... Keeping it to genius of Kemal in politics allows the smarties to prove how smart they are , a match , a perfect match so that they must be cleared and allowed to destroy the Republic completely . Which was the reason of the week of celebration of the Birth of Prophet Muhammed , so that their Muslimness over the rest of the country would be established . They are celebrating a month of that now as they are now attempting to be more Sunni over each other , they just needing a card to play to put some dirt on April 23 , the opening of the sacred Parliament where the Party currently holds a majority .
oh the tales , though . Where all those Muslim heroes aghast at some Christian , that von der Goltz dude sent to oversee them . You know the Westerners are cheekily suggesting that he was poisoned for the laurels of inevitable victory , out of sheer jealousy . Of course the said Westerners have no clue on the truth . The presence of von der Goltz made it impossible for the British to pay a Million Pounds , later increased to 2 by the august personality of charming Lawrence of Arabia and good manners in bed . So that the stigma of defeat could be avoided . Didn't help at all , though the father of the Turkish Army , von der Goltz was liked far more than the smarties of the day ever thought . As such they are reduced to bragging on how they turnerd down the bribe . Do not expect them ever to delve in pointless questions of whether the Uncle of Enver and the "Bearded" Nurettin would ever be offered bribes if there was not a belief that they would take it ... Mustafa Kemal didn't poison Liman von Sanders , did he ?
as for topical subject of suicide bombings ı have been in their likely zones only twice in my life , both in the city of Bursa . One was back in 2005 when this El Kaide dude just blew up on his way to a lightrail station . That missed me by like 2 hours . The one on the Wednesday was 7 hours late by comparision , though rather closer ... Whenever ı arrive in that city , the geography of travel inevitably takes me up in that street by the Grand Mosque of the city where ı drink some water from that fountain , like 5 meters from the presumed explosion area . This one will probably end up as a seperatist thing .