Enrico Swagolo
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So, which ideology do you guys think is best for Venice?
Order - great level 1 traits if you have a lot of cities. Hero of the People is cool, +2 happiness per monument is great, Skyrappers is insane (add Big GabeN and Commerce to buy every building you wish), Workshop/Plant/Factory happiness is great.
Level 2 has some useless ones. Resettlement (+3 pop in new cities) is absolutely useless for you. More happiness traits, cool. Stuff to help you in tourism and culture. Great. Five Year Plan is great if you have many cities and mines/quarries.
Completely horrible level 3 traits (except +34% tourism one, but you're unlikely to be more happy than the enemy at more than Emperor difficulty, which makes it a questionable choice) which are all inferior to level 1 tenets, Courthouse one seems useless (you can't annex), +10 science/can engineer space ships is just awful compared to buy space ship parts for money.
Kremlin is the worst wonder though. Tanks aren't that great, and you can only produce units in Venice. Still, a free Social Policy is added to this, so...
Freedom will help you too. Oh, But Specialist half food consumption/unhappiness isn't too good, because as Venice I can just laugh at food when directing about 10 food routes to Venice, easily ending game with 60+ pop in there, and if you have many cities, Order will give you much, much more happiness while buffing all areas of your play.
Foreign Legions gotten fast are very hard to counter no matter what civ you play, but overall nice level 2 tenets. New Deal is No Deal for me, because Custom Houses are and always were awful, and I did not have too many Great Person Improvements.
Much better level 3 tenets and a superior unique Wonder. Freedom is a better choice if you didn't... borrow as many cities from other civs as I typically do in my playthroughts, or if you really want to end the game with 70+ pop instead of 60+ pop.
Didn't try out Autocracy Venice yet. I doubt it would be as good as Freedom/Order, but it may be okay. Still, no +25% great people generation trait? Kinda crappy if you ask me. I love late game MoV spams with +33% scientist/engineer/merchant generation Congress decision.
Order - great level 1 traits if you have a lot of cities. Hero of the People is cool, +2 happiness per monument is great, Skyrappers is insane (add Big GabeN and Commerce to buy every building you wish), Workshop/Plant/Factory happiness is great.
Level 2 has some useless ones. Resettlement (+3 pop in new cities) is absolutely useless for you. More happiness traits, cool. Stuff to help you in tourism and culture. Great. Five Year Plan is great if you have many cities and mines/quarries.
Completely horrible level 3 traits (except +34% tourism one, but you're unlikely to be more happy than the enemy at more than Emperor difficulty, which makes it a questionable choice) which are all inferior to level 1 tenets, Courthouse one seems useless (you can't annex), +10 science/can engineer space ships is just awful compared to buy space ship parts for money.
Kremlin is the worst wonder though. Tanks aren't that great, and you can only produce units in Venice. Still, a free Social Policy is added to this, so...
Freedom will help you too. Oh, But Specialist half food consumption/unhappiness isn't too good, because as Venice I can just laugh at food when directing about 10 food routes to Venice, easily ending game with 60+ pop in there, and if you have many cities, Order will give you much, much more happiness while buffing all areas of your play.
Foreign Legions gotten fast are very hard to counter no matter what civ you play, but overall nice level 2 tenets. New Deal is No Deal for me, because Custom Houses are and always were awful, and I did not have too many Great Person Improvements.
Much better level 3 tenets and a superior unique Wonder. Freedom is a better choice if you didn't... borrow as many cities from other civs as I typically do in my playthroughts, or if you really want to end the game with 70+ pop instead of 60+ pop.
Didn't try out Autocracy Venice yet. I doubt it would be as good as Freedom/Order, but it may be okay. Still, no +25% great people generation trait? Kinda crappy if you ask me. I love late game MoV spams with +33% scientist/engineer/merchant generation Congress decision.