I never doubted that, but thanks for the vote of confidence.
Iran Chooses Brazil to Mediate Nuclear Deal
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I never doubted that, but thanks for the vote of confidence.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
And let's not forget Israel. You can't get much more hostile than them.
Don't be so simpleminded. Didn't you learn about "Spheres of Influence" in Junior High?
I don't give a f***. Why should some Western politician get the right to decide?
We've got the men, we've got the nukes, we've got the credit too
Mr. Dictator
A Chain-Smoking Fox
oh, the one that said the US would eventually rid itself of all nukes too? yeah, what about that?
NNPT only commits signatory states with nuclear weapons to "negotiate in good faith" on disarmament, not to actually commit to disarmament, much less any sort of immediate and total disarmament.
Mr. Dictator
A Chain-Smoking Fox
ahh, so "use as a leverage to keep others from getting it, so the question never comes to why you have it"
Why else would nuclear-armed states sign the treaty?
amadeus
Serenity now
Not towards the U.S., and I don't like Israel having nuclear weapons, either.
There's no hypocrisy here; I simply do not trust certain other states with nuclear weapons.
TheDanish
Prince
Ahmadinejad looks like a hobo. No one would give a crap about what he has to say if he wasn't trying to develop nuclear material.
Agarwaen
King
Iran strikes nuclear limitation deal with Turkey and Brazil
A link in english I found
Brazil claimed to have struck a deal over Iran’s controversial nuclear programme yesterday, forcing the White House into a supporting role in international efforts to halt Tehran in its tracks.
Under the agreement announced by President Lula da Silva of Brazil, Iran would ship 1,200kg of low-enriched uranium to Turkey in return for 120kg of fuel rods for a Tehran research reactor that is designed only to produce radioactive isotopes for treating cancer. Such an exchange would remove Iran’s pretext for its advanced uranium enrichment project, which the West argues is aimed at developing nuclear weapons.
With Mr Lula da Silva relishing his new-found prominence, the Obama Administration gave the idea a guarded welcome. A senior US official promised that if it addressed basic concerns about Iran’s ambitions, “we’ll be prepared to say so”.
The spectacle of an emerging South American power taking the lead in talks with Tehran could undermine months of work in Washington and Geneva towards tough new sanctions on Iran. Yet President Obama has little choice but to play along: he campaigned for the White House on a promise of starting talks himself, and seven months ago was the first to offer a nuclear fuel deal of the kind brokered in 18 hours of negotiations on Sunday.
Mr Obama was “boxed in” by his own efforts and by Mr Lula da Silva’s unsolicited initiative, a former senior US defence official told The Times. “Tehran has agreed to do what Obama was pushing for back in October, so he can’t reject it out of hand now that the same deal, albeit a weaker version, has been negotiated by Brazil and Turkey,” he said.
Mr Lula da Silva hailed the deal as a “victory for diplomacy” and joined hands with President Ahmadinejad of Iran and Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish Prime Minister, to cheer on their foreign ministers at the signing ceremony in Tehran. It was a show of non-aligned triumphalism that could prove a turning point in efforts to rein in Iran — but the gleeful mood was not shared in Western capitals.
Russia and the EU joined the US in offering only faint praise for the deal and stressing its shortcomings. Shifting nuclear fuel off Iranian soil “would be a welcome step”, Robert Gibbs, the White House spokesman, said, but Iran would have to give up any further nuclear enrichment and abide by existing UN Security Council resolutions for the deal to be taken seriously.
William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, was cautious in his assessment, warning that the deal could be little more than a delaying tactic by Tehran. “It’s very important that the detail of this is given and that we hear the IAEA’s \ assessment. The onus is still very firmly on Iran to prove its intentions to the rest of the world,” he said.
In a major concession to Iran, Turkey and Brazil said that their apparent breakthrough removed the need for a fourth round of UN sanctions. However, spokesmen for Mr Obama and Baroness Ashton of Upholland, the EU’s foreign policy chief, insisted that sanctions would remain on the table until Iran made clear and acceptable commitments to the IAEA.
“There is a lot of potentially constructive language in the \ declaration but we have many questions,” Philip Crowley, Assistant US Secretary of State, told The Times. “Who will control the material in Turkey? What actually happens based on this declaration? The real question is whether Iran is going to come to the table prepared to engage with the core international concerns over its nuclear programme. If so, we’ll be prepared to say so.”
Israel, which regards Iran’s nuclear programme as an existential threat, condemned the deal as an Iranian ploy to buy time for further enrichment. Tehran has insisted it will go on enriching nuclear fuel to a 20 per cent concentration suitable for civilian reactors.
In the seven months since it rejected the initial fuel export deal proposed by the US, it has also processed sufficient extra fuel to give it “breakout capability” — enough to proceed quickly to make a nuclear bomb — even after depositing 1,200kg of uranium in Turkey, according to the IAEA.
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There must be other better links to this, but the core is the talks have achieved something, a deal have been signed between Brazil, Turkey and Iran and may get the avail of IAEA.
Thoughts? Is Iran only buying time? Is it just a show from Lula to be seen as a great statesman and leader of a great power? Will the crisis be over? Will israel still bombard Iran before summer?
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A link in english I found
Brazil claimed to have struck a deal over Iran’s controversial nuclear programme yesterday, forcing the White House into a supporting role in international efforts to halt Tehran in its tracks.
Under the agreement announced by President Lula da Silva of Brazil, Iran would ship 1,200kg of low-enriched uranium to Turkey in return for 120kg of fuel rods for a Tehran research reactor that is designed only to produce radioactive isotopes for treating cancer. Such an exchange would remove Iran’s pretext for its advanced uranium enrichment project, which the West argues is aimed at developing nuclear weapons.
With Mr Lula da Silva relishing his new-found prominence, the Obama Administration gave the idea a guarded welcome. A senior US official promised that if it addressed basic concerns about Iran’s ambitions, “we’ll be prepared to say so”.
The spectacle of an emerging South American power taking the lead in talks with Tehran could undermine months of work in Washington and Geneva towards tough new sanctions on Iran. Yet President Obama has little choice but to play along: he campaigned for the White House on a promise of starting talks himself, and seven months ago was the first to offer a nuclear fuel deal of the kind brokered in 18 hours of negotiations on Sunday.
Mr Obama was “boxed in” by his own efforts and by Mr Lula da Silva’s unsolicited initiative, a former senior US defence official told The Times. “Tehran has agreed to do what Obama was pushing for back in October, so he can’t reject it out of hand now that the same deal, albeit a weaker version, has been negotiated by Brazil and Turkey,” he said.
Mr Lula da Silva hailed the deal as a “victory for diplomacy” and joined hands with President Ahmadinejad of Iran and Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish Prime Minister, to cheer on their foreign ministers at the signing ceremony in Tehran. It was a show of non-aligned triumphalism that could prove a turning point in efforts to rein in Iran — but the gleeful mood was not shared in Western capitals.
Russia and the EU joined the US in offering only faint praise for the deal and stressing its shortcomings. Shifting nuclear fuel off Iranian soil “would be a welcome step”, Robert Gibbs, the White House spokesman, said, but Iran would have to give up any further nuclear enrichment and abide by existing UN Security Council resolutions for the deal to be taken seriously.
William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, was cautious in his assessment, warning that the deal could be little more than a delaying tactic by Tehran. “It’s very important that the detail of this is given and that we hear the IAEA’s \ assessment. The onus is still very firmly on Iran to prove its intentions to the rest of the world,” he said.
In a major concession to Iran, Turkey and Brazil said that their apparent breakthrough removed the need for a fourth round of UN sanctions. However, spokesmen for Mr Obama and Baroness Ashton of Upholland, the EU’s foreign policy chief, insisted that sanctions would remain on the table until Iran made clear and acceptable commitments to the IAEA.
“There is a lot of potentially constructive language in the \ declaration but we have many questions,” Philip Crowley, Assistant US Secretary of State, told The Times. “Who will control the material in Turkey? What actually happens based on this declaration? The real question is whether Iran is going to come to the table prepared to engage with the core international concerns over its nuclear programme. If so, we’ll be prepared to say so.”
Israel, which regards Iran’s nuclear programme as an existential threat, condemned the deal as an Iranian ploy to buy time for further enrichment. Tehran has insisted it will go on enriching nuclear fuel to a 20 per cent concentration suitable for civilian reactors.
In the seven months since it rejected the initial fuel export deal proposed by the US, it has also processed sufficient extra fuel to give it “breakout capability” — enough to proceed quickly to make a nuclear bomb — even after depositing 1,200kg of uranium in Turkey, according to the IAEA.
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There must be other better links to this, but the core is the talks have achieved something, a deal have been signed between Brazil, Turkey and Iran and may get the avail of IAEA.
Thoughts? Is Iran only buying time? Is it just a show from Lula to be seen as a great statesman and leader of a great power? Will the crisis be over? Will israel still bombard Iran before summer?
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Ayatollah So
the spoof'll set you free
We'll have to see what happens to that extra uranium. Already, the Obama administration (to say nothing of Western hawks) appears ready to use the threat of breakout capability as an excuse to trash the deal. Not that the threat isn't real - that's been the point all along, to develop breakout capability - but it isn't set in stone. Yet. If anyone on either side is actually interested in negotiation (as I'm starting to doubt) then the deal is easily strengthened.
Anyway, kudos to Brazil and Turkey for giving it the old college try. We could use some more Turko-Brazilian peace initiatives.
