How to make the most out of a piety start?

Wuddel · Jul 18, 2013

Any feasible openers with Piety as an early SP tree on Immortal and Deity?

Is it best on religion flavoured civs, or better at normal ones to balance out somehting?

Which Reformation believes to pick. (The Spy one does not seem to work.)

VainoValkea · Jul 18, 2013

Are you sure the Underground Sect doesn't work? If it uses the normal mechanics you will need two sources of pressure to convert (eg. a spy and a trade route). Just the spy won't do unless the city is unreligious.

I dislike Piety myself, because most of the bonuses are fairly weak for early game. The most powerful thing in there is the reformation belief, no doubt - and supercharged holy sites. I rely more on Tradition and Patronage.

Wuddel · Jul 18, 2013

VainoValkea said:
Are you sure the Underground Sect doesn't work? If it uses the normal mechanics you will need two sources of pressure to convert (eg. a spy and a trade route). Just the spy won't do unless the city is unreligious.

Well, it should change the pressure value should it not? Maybe not on CS?

VainoValkea · Jul 18, 2013

If there's already pressure I think the spy should increase it.

Mesix · Jul 18, 2013

A Piety/Rationalism combination can be very powerful for science victory. I was swimming in :c5faith:

in my last game and purchasing an extra 4 or so GS a few turns after the Labs are up and running can make the end of game bulb fest a breeze. 2-3 saved GS plus 4-5 from :c5faith:

, plus 2 from Hubble is 8-10 GS to bulb technologies.

Wuddel · Jul 18, 2013

Mesix said:
A Piety/Rationalism combination can be very powerful for science victory. I was swimming in in my last game and purchasing an extra 4 or so GS a few turns after the Labs are up and running can make the end of game bulb fest a breeze. 2-3 saved GS plus 4-5 from , plus 2 from Hubble is 8-10 GS to bulb technologies.

Do you remember your believes?

bcaiko · Jul 18, 2013

Piety is tough. It doesn't give happiness directly, nor culture, which the other three branches do. If you know you either need a religion or can get a great Religion of the ground (say, you can build Stonehenge and grab Sacred Path for your cities surrounded by Jungle for a culture driver), then it's useful.

Like Wuddel, I've chosen the spy Reformation belief, and didn't notice any kind of effect. It may be worth testing.

SammyKhalifa · Jul 18, 2013

bcaiko said:
Piety is tough. It doesn't give happiness directly, nor culture, which the other three branches do. If you know you either need a religion or can get a great Religion of the ground (say, you can build Stonehenge and grab Sacred Path for your cities surrounded by Jungle for a culture driver), then it's useful.

Like Wuddel, I've chosen the spy Reformation belief, and didn't notice any kind of effect. It may be worth testing.

It didn't seem to work for me either.

How to make the most out of a piety start?

Wuddel

Warlord

VainoValkea

Emperor

Wuddel

Warlord

VainoValkea

Emperor

Mesix

The Allfather

Wuddel

Warlord

bcaiko

Emperor

SammyKhalifa

Deity

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