Turnchat #1: November 4, 8 AM CST (9am EST) Thursday, 1400 Hrs GMT

I'm starting up the TCIT now so that my Ministers can post their Rough Plans now. Once they have indicated to me how long they need to get their ducks in a row, I'll iron out the actual time. Options are 0100 Hrs (7 PM Wed Night CST) or 1400 Hrs (8 AM Thur Morning.)

EDIT: Yep. Defintiely 8 AM CST Thursday, 1400 Hrs GMT

Previous Savegame (1180 AD)

Previous Thread

Osgiliath: cavalry, worker, cavalry
put scientist to work on flood plain

Sto'vo'kor: university, privateer
switch desert to grassland by river

Windurst: cathedral, university
switch coast to mined silks
give irrigated silks to Swazi, get its BG

Pete: cathedral, library

Bentropolis: cavalry, cavalry

Kagemusha: courthouse, barracks, wall

Grumpypuss: harbor, courthouse
switch laborer to specialist

Swazi: wealth
give BG to Windurst, get its irrigated silks
abandon the city when it reaches size 3
if the Zulu laborer assimilates, produce workers

Suggested worker actions:
mine grassland, desert, and hills near Osgiliath
railroad Osgiliath's mines
mine grassland and chop jungle near Sto'vo'kor (please don't irrigate the desert, I would rather irrigate the flood plains and mine the desert)
railroad Sto'vo'kor's mines
mine grassland and chop jungle near Windurst
railroad Windurst's mines
mine grassland and hills near Pete
railroad Pete's mines
mine hills near Bentropolis, irrigate other land
railroad Bentropolis' irrigation
connect Grumpypuss by roads
irrigate desert, mine hills near Kagemusha
railroad Kagemusha's irrigation
Connecting the cities by railroads is a slightly higher priority

New cities should start production on a courthouse, military unit, or temple, up to the DP's discretion (it doesn't really matter because it won't finish this turnchat anyways)

Trade poll indicates we will be trading for Navigations, so Zojoji should start building Magellan's (as indicated in Governor Blackheart's instructions). If we did not trade for Nav then Zojoji should start on a Palace. I also encourage that worker teams be prepared to RailRoad mines near Zojoji to try and cut one turn off of the build time.

Odawara should continue to build Newton's based on my interp of the confirmation poll (don't both checking the poll, my instructions are not conditional).
A Micromanagement request subject to overide by Edo's governor: Odawara can build Newton's in 3 turns if it uses one of En'Gha's mines instead of a plains.

Yatta (Veii) should rush a temple and then start on and rush a Courthouse and then start on the FP pending future discussion and polling.

The domestic minister has approved rushes to help rebuild the war torn cities.
Turn 0: rush temples in Cumae, Mauch Chunk, and Pisae;
and rush a temple in Yatta ** not approved by Zarn - see note **
Turn 1: rush a courthouse at Yatta after Swords disband
As soon as resistence is ended in Salamanca: spend up to 112G to rush a temple.

**7am eastern Note: request to Rush both a Temple and a Court at Yatta just had the temple added. This is probably not in line with Governor Snipelfritz or Minister Zarn as they may not have seen this request. Sorry for complicating things by issuing conflicting orders, but Citizen TimBently rightly reminded that the temple is needed to expand Yatta's radius. With luck Zarn or Snipelfritz can revise their orders prior to the chat.

Hai-rando Province

Build Queues:
Regent Town: Musketman -> Worker -> Musketman -> Cavalary
Epolenep: University -> Worker -> Musketman
Manchai: Library -> Aqueduct
Nihilon: Worker -> Worker -> University
Drachenfels: Aqueduct -> Courthouse
Gerunshi: Library -> Marketplace

Worker Suggestions:
Epolenep: Mine the horse hill
Regent Town: Mine the plains NW - W.
Gerunshi + Drachenfels: Road + irrigate the plains

Notes:
Regarding Manchai: Micromanage the laborers to work the sea whale tile to get more food, shields, and gold instead of one coast tile.


*All information posted here is subject to change until one hour before the turnchat*

Worker Actions

Workers will complete their current tasks and then group into Groups of 12 (6 for the Babylonians) and set to work various sectors. (More info later.)

The exception is the Zulu Worker. It would be removed from its work Immediately and be moved according to this poll.

Another Exception is the Worker Team currently chopping down a forest outside of Radaii. These would be transfered to toher projects immediately.




I'm currently favoring the "Morning" time. (8 AM CST, 1400 GMT) but that could change within the next 30 Hours.

Zarnia Buildques 1180 AD

SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON CULTURE MINISTRY'S INSTRUCTONS!!!

Fanatikku: Cannon, Cavalry, Musketman
Zojoji: Magellan's Voyage, Frigate, Galleon
Furuyama: Courthouse, Cathedral, mustketman
Immo: Colosseum, cavalry, cavalry

Look at image for laborer configuration for Zojoji.



At any point of our gpt falls below zero, please switch cities to build luxury once the item they are working on is done until the gpt is positive or all cities are producing wealth (Do not use Furuyama for this). Discontinue this and return to normal ques when it is no longer needed.



Blue (top priority) is the railway for Zojoji mines to increase production. Red is connecting railway to other provinces.

As for other railroads, connect the cities first so we can continuously move troops without stopping, then connect resources and high production areas, then everything else. I implore the DP to place priority for rails that lead to Zojoji, as this will reduce the time needed for finishing the wonder.

Science Ministry Instructions

Research in the following order:
Continue with Steam Power
Industrialisation
Medicine
Sanitation
Electricity
Scientific Method
Replaceable Parts

I realise we won't get this far, but this serves to outline our current research strategy

FA Instructions

Kill 'em all. I don't think a poll is necessary................

Trade:
Please do the trades that are the result of this
Also, please check for any and all available trades on T5 (or whenever Newtons is done). The DP has the right to do these trades.
I will try to have someone at the chat (I have classes at that time)

SaaM

TC instructions 1180
Build queues,

Roma: Musket-Musket-Market

Baldurs Gate: Courthouse-Aquaduct-Musket

Port Solema: Courthouse-Barracks-Musket

Ominato: Barracks-Courthouse-Musket

Pisae:Temple-Courthouse-Musket

Yatta:Courthouse-Forbidden Palace

Cumae:Temple-Courthouse-Musket

Cattaraugus:Temple-Courthouse-Musket

Salamanca:Temple-Courthouse-Musket

If captured:

Oil Springs:Temple-Courthouse-Musket

Niagra Falls:Temple-Courthouse-Musket

As always, please feel free to comment on any of these intructions in the provce thread.

Msav Military Reforms Decree #! "disbands And Upgrades"

Disbands Of Regular Obsoletes

2 Warriors
5 Spearmen

Bentropolis Warrior To Kagemusha And Disband
Pete Warrior To Kagemusha And Disband
Shorin Ryu Spearman To Kagemusha And Disband
Odawara Spearman To Kagemusha
Fanatikku Spearman To Kagemusha And Disband
Regent Town Spearman To Kagemusha And Disband
Epolenep Spearman To Kagemusha And Disband

Upgrades

Upgrades Accepted: 1120 gold

2 Horse ---> Cavalry (200)
1 Catapult ---> Cannon (40)
4 Caravel ---> Galleon (160)
12 Pike ---> Musket (720)

Click to expand...

I also got 40 Gold in turn 3 thanks to Wall Street from Zarn, used for Galleon

Mauch Chunk Horseman To Zojoji And Upgrade To Cavalry
Salamanca Horseman Upgrade to Cavalry
12 Pikemen, border cities first upgrades to muskets
3 Caravels In Western Ocean To Furuyama Upgrade To 3 Galleons
1 Caravel In Eastern Ocean To Cattaraugus Upgrade To 1 Galleon
1 Caravel in Manchai Upgrade to Galleon

Msav Military Reforms Decree #2 "Redeployment"

IMMO MUSKET DEPLOYMENT

IMMO MUSKET - STOVOKOR
IMMO MUSKET - OSGILIATH
IMMO MUSKET - FURUYAMA (1 TURN DELAY)

FURUYAMA SPEARMEN TO KAGEMUSHA WHEN RELIEVED BY IMMO MUSKET
OSGILIATH SPEARMEN TO KAGEMUSHA WHEN RELIEVED BY IMMO MUSKET
STOVOKOR MUSKET TO KAGEMUSHA WHEN RELIEVED BY IMMO MUSKET

PISAE
MUSKET NORTH OF PISAE TO PISAE
PISAE SWORDSMAN DISBAND- 4 T
PISAE CAVALRY TO OIL SPRINGS -2T

ODAWARA
ODAWARA SWORDSMAN TO YATTA AND DISBAND

AROUND ROME
6 CANNONS NORTH TO ZOJOJI
MUSKET WEST OF ROME TO YATTA
ELITE SWORDSMAN TO SALAMANCA

YATTA
WHEN MUSKET FROM ROME ARRIVES, SEND YATTA SWORDSMAN TO OIL SPRINGS
SEND 2 ELITE SWORDSMEN SOUTH OF YATTA TO SALAMANCA

OMINATO
OMINATO SETTLER TO CATTARAUGUS - 1 T
OMINATO SWORDSMAN TO NIAGARA FALLS - 2T

CUMAE
CUMAE GREAT LEADER TOJO AND ELITE CAVALRY TO SALAMANCA
CREATE ARMY OF ELITE CAVALRY IN SALAMANCA
CUMAE SWORDSMAN TO YATTA AND DISBAND
2 SWORDSMEN EAST OF CUMAE TO YATTA AND DISBAND

CATTARAUGUS
CATTARAGUS 2 SWORDSMEN, 2 SAMURAI TO NIAGARA FALLS

SALAMANCA
2 ELITE SAMURAI NE OF SALAMANCA TO GARRISON SALAMANCA

OIL SPRINGS
4 WOUNDED SAMURAIS TO SALAMANCA TO GARRISON

Msav Military Reforms Decree #3 "IROQUOIS DELINEATION"

THE IROQUOIS CAMPAIGN WILL BE RUN LIKE THIS IN THE FINAL STAGES

1.

3 Samurai units near Alleghany moves towards Salamanca, but pillages first the Iron road they stand on, and then the three road tiles NE, W and SE of Salamanca within Iroquois territory, where the Samurai Elite garrisons Salamanca. The Wounded Samurai Elite NE of Alleghany moves to Salamanca to garrison the city.

2.
OIL SPRINGS CONQUEST
In general, all the troops designated to march up in front of Oil Springs are expected to take it quickly, allowing the units some time to heal in Salamanca, and to pillage roads on the future Iroquois border.
The Elite Cavalry Army formed in Salamanca will first attack and conquer Oil Springs in order to open for Heroic Epic and Military Academy.
Only Veteran Samurai and Elite and Veteran Swordsmen, along with Veteran Cavalry, are allowed to the front line, with in attacking order, Swordsmen, Samurai and Cavalry. All forces should be marched up around Turn 6 into the turnchat, and then strike simultaneously on Oil Springs and Niagara, and then immediately regroup garrison units accordingly to suppress rebellion

3.
NIAGARA CONQUEST
An eastern army will be marched up in good time before the joint strike on turn 6.

4.
REMEMBER, TURN 6 is the time of the final strike. Hopefully, we will manage to spend some of our swordsmen here or get some elites out of it.
Surviving Veteran Swordsmen should be sent to Yatta and Pisae and disband.

We should also get Tonawonda in the Peace Settlement, and I recommend it to become the Guantanamo of Japanatica run by Grand Admiral Ali of the Imperial Commandos and the Privateer Corps.

LEGEND

ORANGE/YELLOW BOXES - PILLAGE
RED/WHITE BOXES - REST UNITS
RED LINES - MOVE TO FRONT
GREEN LINES - REDEPLOY
BLUE MARKS, TURNS AND STAGES, STAGE 3 is TURN 5 , ATTACK

FAs Instructions

Demands
Refuse any demand from civs that pose no threat to us and/or in another contenent. If the Civ is demanding something and is bordering us and/or on the same contenent; Do not give up techs, maps, cities, and gold greater than 50g (Value of gold is yet to be decided upon the Leader and will change if he sees fit). If they declare war on us, please follow the procedure as followed in the below paragraph entitled "If war is declared on us".

If war is declared on us
If another civilization that is bordering us and/or on the same contenent declares war on us. Halt the chat imedeately.

Budget: Keep Min positive GPT. The rest of the budget goes to science.
Luxury can be raised, if there is a happiness problem in the cities.

The Military request's in Provolution's post were approved.

Rushes Accepted: 1060 gold

Cumae: Temple
Mauch Chunk: Temple
Pisae: Temple (after sword disbanded)
Salamanca: Temple
Salamanca: Library
Yatta: Court (after swords disbanded)

Provolution said:

Please allocate some saved gold from that for a rush buy of courthouse in Kagemusha after I have disbanded 2 warriors and a spearman within turn 4, and then rush buy barracks after a couple of more spearman disbands in turn 8-9.

Click to expand...

Turn 4 Kagemusha (after disbands): Court
Turn 9 Kagemusha (after disbands): Barracks

If this can be done above budget (1000 gold), please do so. I will try to attend chat for assistance.

Since Governor Epimethius had a 3-Day Ban for being a potty mouth, he had not appointed a Deputy yet, and I brought a Judicial Review late, I will maintain the Buildqueues set up the previous turnchat by then Governor Invy.

Invy 10/31 said:

En'Gha: Wall Street >> Cavalries
*switch desert tile to mined hill
Odawara: Forbidden Palace >> Cavalries
*switch clowns to laborers and maximize production
Shorin-Ryu: Cavalries
Duckburg: Marketplace >> Cathedral
*switch mined hill to mined grassland
Doomsville: Cathedral >> Musketman
*switch forest to mined hill
Hlobane: Temple >> Barracks >> Library
*switch 'horse' hill to mined hill
Corrino: Cavalries
-----------------
Roma: Library >> Musketman >> Musketman
*switch floodplain to mine grassland
Baldurs Gate: Courthouse >> Barracks
*switch grassland and lake laborers to two mined grasslands
Port Solema: Courthouse >> Barracks
Ominato: Barracks >> Courthouse

Click to expand...

EDIT: However, since the Build at Odawara has been changed because of Polls, the only item on that is Newton's. No other items.

And now... onto the TC:

Turn 0
Turn 4 Start

Zarn was the Scribe of the TC.

Well, after a 2 Hour Pre-Turn:

The Russians got ToG and joined us in the Industrial Age, alomg with France and China, in Turn 2. SaaM, you have soem 'splaining to do.

On the good news We got Newton's, and... well... I'll leave you in suspence until I get my pics up tonight... Or look at the log Zarn built.

Again, Pics tonight, as I have work.

Everything said is here...

So I assume Turn 4 (1220 AD) is the latest save? Your text wasn't clear..

Just to note:

The gamesave should be in a "DG5_ADyear_turnXYZ" format, not "DG5_year_AD". The turnchat should follow a similar naming convention: "DG5_monthDate" (i.e., DG5_Nov3rd.zip") and should be timestamped and zipped.

Like this:

1220AD - Turn 4

Chatlog

Finally! Time for Pictures:

Here's that little bit of a surprise I was saving for you all.




And, as a welcome back gift to Governor Epimethius, a shot of his city.




Next TC on Monday Afternoon.