Chat 4A: Investigations into Problems. Tue November 16, 7:30 PM CST

[Sir Donald III]

Equal to 8:30 PM EST, 5:30 PM PST, 11/17 0130 HRS GMT, 2:30 AM CET.

Due to the threat of a potential One City Culture Victory by the Aztecs, as well as a threat of Local Babyonian Culture, I am holding this "Emergency" chat to sponser Investigation Missions and Trades that will take 0 turns to complete. This will allow the Governors and Ministers to come up with appropriate responses to these matters.

This "Emergency Chat" will, By Fiat, last no more than 3 Turns, and likely will not last even 1 turn.


If I am not online, the CoC is the following:

Vice President (Civanator)
Domestic (Zarn)
***Order alteration, Valid THIS TURNCHAT ONLY!***
Foreign Affairs (Civgeneral)
War (Provolution)
Culture (MOTH)
Trade (SaaM)
Science (Don't remember off the top of my head)
Domestic Deputy (Donsig)

Again this CoC is valid for THIS TURNCHAT ONLY! For the TC on 20 November, we will resume the regular order of Domestic, War, Foreign, Trade, Science, Culture, and no Deputies.

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[Strider]

Science Ministry Instructions:

I am currently acting as Science Minister, if Civman posts instructions for the Science department, please consider these as void.

Follow this technology queue:
Industrialisation
Medicine
Sanitation
Electricity
Scientific Method
Replaceable Parts
Stop Chat if we research Replaceable Parts!!

 

[blackheart]

Just wondering, since this is a 0 turn TC, will buildques for provinces be needed?

 

[Provolution]

Blackheart, not at all.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

Province of Hai-rando - Build Queues/Changes 1295 AD

Build Queues/Changes:
Epolenep: Colosseum -> Musketman
Regent Town: Heroic Epic -> Musketman -> Musketman
Manchai: Cathedral -> Colosseum
Nihilon: University
Gerunshi: Marketplace -> Cathedral
Drachefnels: Courthouse -> University

Notes: Epolenep expands in 6 turns, so we will hopefully regain control of the horses. If it does, switch the order of the Colosseum and Musketman.

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Even if there aren't any turns played, I would like these queues to be set up.

 

[blackheart]

Zarnia Buildques 1295 AD (Zero/One turn Emergency TC only)

Change production of Frigate in Zojoji to Ironclad, remove Privateer from que and add Ironclad in its place. Keep everything else status quo for ques, if emergency TC lasts more than 3 turns, stop the TC!

Move the Laborer from the Forest to the mined Grassland to the North (see picture below)

 

[GenMarshall]

Pesky AI units moving into our territory
Ask them to remove there units from our land. If the option of "Leave or declare war" pops up after telling the offending civ over and over, I leave this to the DP's judgement. If they do declare war on us after refusing to move there units, then follow the procedures as listed in "If war is declared on us".

Demands
Refuse any demand from civs that pose no threat to us and/or in another contenent. If the Civ is demanding something and is bordering us and/or on the same contenent; Do not give up techs, maps, cities, and gold greater than 50g (Value of gold is yet to be decided upon the Leader and will change if he sees fit). If they declare war on us, please follow the procedure as followed in the below paragraph entitled "If war is declared on us".

If war is declared on us
If another civilization that is bordering us and/or on the same contenent declares war on us. Halt the chat imedeately.

Embassies
Please establish embassies in the following civs: Russia and China, so long as the Domestic Department aproves the funding for this action.

City Investigations
Please investigate the following city(ies): Aztec, Tenochtitalen. So long as the Domestic Department aproves the funding for this action.

 

[MOTH]

I polled on 3 subjects. The 2 investigations failed to get 55% of the votes cast and thus failed to override Ministry Policy and will not be done at this time.

This leaves a rush of a Colosseum in Epolenep as soon as their are any shields committed. I expect that this will be on turn 1 with an expected cost 444g. Domestic Minister Zarn's instructions allow for this rush.

Research
Normal saves (turn 0, 5, and 10) are all that are needed at this time.

 

[TimBentley]

Osgiliath: palace

Sto'vo'kor: ironclad, ironclad, bank

Windurst: ironclad, worker, university

Pete: worker, university, bank
switch desert to coast

Bentropolis: marketplace, aqueduct, library

Kagemusha: barracks, aqueduct, marketplace
switch unrailroaded desert to railroaded hill

Grumpypuss: courthouse, marketplace
put taxman to work on coast

Suggested worker actions:
mine grassland, desert, and hills near Osgiliath
railroad Osgiliath's mines
mine desert near Sto'vo'kor
railroad Sto'vo'kor's mines
mine grassland near Windurst
railroad Windurst's mines
mine one desert near Pete
railroad Pete's mines
mine hills near Bentropolis, irrigate other land
railroad Bentropolis' irrigation
you could irrigate and railroad saltpeter near Grumpypuss (low priority)
irrigate desert, mine hills near Kagemusha
railroad Kagemusha's irrigation
Connecting the cities by railroads is a slightly higher priority

New cities should start production on a courthouse or temple, up to the DP's discretion (it doesn't really matter because it won't finish this turnchat anyways)

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

Trade:
I have nothing to report at this time as we do not wish to trade Steam.
Have fun.
SaaM

 

[Sir Donald III]

Because of certain TV watching engagements, I won't be at the Turnchat this tommorow.

Modified Schedule Instructions:

If we Swap to Republic, limit the TC to 2 turns total, including the "transition" turn. EXCEPTION: If at the end of Turn 2, Indy is 1 Turn away at 100% Science, you may extend the TC 1 turn to get the tech.


These are the Worker Actions that I would do. Turn numbers assume no Government Swap.

Hai-Rando:
Team #5 (Regent Town):
Turn 1: Rail the Irrigated Plains W of Genrushi
Turn 2: Rail the Irrigated Desert E of Drachensfell
Turn 3: Rail the Mined Cattle NW of Regent Town

Babylonain Workers (Dark Blue):
The current Job should take most of the TC. Once they finish, Rail the square they're in now.

2 Lone Jap Workers:
Mining Job will take the rest of the TC.


East Coast:
Team #8 (Ominato):
Turn 1: Rail the Irrigated Desert S of Ominato
Turn 2-3: Rail the Hills NW of Cattaragus

Iroquois Workers (Cumae, in Pruple):
General improvements, DP discression, perhaps in Yatta if no sites in Iroquois Coast can be further improved.

Lone Worker near Roma:
When this worker is doen mining, transfer to Oil Springs in preparation for Loading.

Workers near Izanaga:
The worker roading the silks should assist the other worker mining the nearby hills after road is complete.


Edo:
Team #7 (Odawara):
Turn 1: Rail the Floodplains S of Odawara
Turn 2-3: Rail the hill North of Doomsville.

Roman Team (Osgiliath):
Turn 1-2: Rail Horse Hill SE of Hill Valley
Turn 3: Rail Hill NW of Duckburg


Zarnia:
Team #4 (Zojoji Iron):
Turn 1-2: Rail the Hills S of Zojoji
Turn 3: Rail the Irrigated Grassland NE of Zojoji's Wheat

Team #6 (South of Zojoji):
Turn 1: Finish current Job
Turn 2-3: Rail Hills SE of Furuyama


Kitakinu:
Team 1 (Kagemush West)
Turn 1: Rail Saltpeter Desert E of Grumpypuss
Turn 2-3: Rail Hills N of Grumpypuss

Team 2 (Kagemush East)
Turn 1: Rail irrigated desert SW SW of Kagemusha (completed IBT)
Turn 2-3: Rail hills N of Pete

Team 3 (Windurst)
Turn 1: Rail Mined Grass NW of Windurst
Turn 2: Rail Mined Grass SW of Pete
Turn 3: Rail Mined Grass SE SE of Sto'vo'Kor

Lone Worker: Irrigate Railed Desert W of Kagemusha

The key thing is to maintain the integrity of the "Worker Teams" (Units of 6 Regulars, all having the same turn, the 12 Romans together, the 6 Babs together.)

 

[Provolution]

We should get Indy first, before we change to Republic, it is only 3 turns away.

 

[snipelfritz]

Zarnia Buildques 1295 AD (Zero/One turn Emergency TC only)

Keep the status quo for ques, if emergency TC lasts more than 3 turns, stop the TC!

Ditto for Itakaji.

 

[Provolution]

SD3, direct HMS Daveshack towards Salzburg, I want that hill...

 

[Zarn]

Slider
-Keep science at max without negative GPT
-If two or more settings show same amount of turns in science, use setting that gives greater GPT
-Luxury can be raised, if needed

Rushes
Colosseum in Epolenep (right away)

Government
Revolt to Republic! (sometime this chat)

 

[Chieftess]

Minami Province -

All Cities in the province - Temples, Workers.

You may build a rail into Cumae, Salamanca, and Oil Springs.

 

[Chieftess]

Just to note - there seems to be a netsplit. Join in using the goldfish.*.irc-chat.com server.

 

[GenMarshall]

Saves of the Demogame.

Turn 1 Save

Turn 4 Save

Luckly our civ bonus we only experianced a 1 turn of anarchy .