Get'n Pacific

Margim

Margim

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Just throwing out an idea of a region specific mod, much like the Asian mod also proposed. Several civs will overlap a bit between that and this one... roughly covering an area diagonally from Thailand to New Zealand. My expertise doesn't really cover south east asian history that much, but I've come up with a few civs, including leader names, city lists, and possibilities for uu's.

If you feel you know better than the lists I have here, please feel free to criticise.

So Far...
Maori
Papua New Guinea
Australia
Koori (SE Aust. Aborigines)
Palawa (Tasmanian Aborigines)
Nyungar (SW Aust. Aborigines)
The Kanaks (Melenesian New Caledonians)
New Zealand
 
Prime Minister Robert Menzies of Australia (Graphics done)
Attributes: Commercial and Scientific
Unit: Light Horse Cavalry (Can appropriate American civil war cavalry for graphics if necessary)
Scientists: Howard Florey, Willam Henry Bragg, Frank Burnet, Marcus Oliphant, Graeme Clark
Military Leaders: Peter Lalor, Breaker Morant, Ian Hamilton, Thomas Blamey, William Birdwood, John Monash, Peter Cosgrove
Cities
Canberra
Sydney
Melbourne
Brisbane
Perth
Adelaide
Hobart
Darwin
Newcastle
Gold Coast
Gosford
Wollongong
Geelong
Townsville
Cairns
Launceston
Albury-Wodonga
Toowoomba
Ballarat
Nowra
Bendigo
Mackay
Rockhampton
Coffs Harbour
Fremantle
Bundaberg
Wagga Wagga
Mildura
Shepparton
Taree
Lismore
Gladstone
Dubbo
Kalgoorlie
Tamworth
Hervey Bay
Warrnambool
Burnie
Bunbury
Geraldton
Devonport
Alice Springs
Nowra
Whyalla
Mount Isa
Goulburn
Albany
Mt Gambier
Broken Hill
Traralgon
Horsham
Gawler
Port Augusta
Port Hedland
Echuca
Broome
Noosa Heads
Murray Bridge
Port Lincoln
Glenrowan
Katherine
Esperance
Tennant Creek
Coober Pedy
Birdsville
Tom Price
 
Tribesman Yagan of the Nyungar (Civarmies Neanderthal leaderhead seems appropriate. Aborigines are NOT neanderthals - the leaderhead actually looks quiet human enough - but aborigines migrated to Australia 10,000 years ago, so there are probably some close ties in there).
Attributes: Militaristic and Agricultural
Unit: Woomera Spearman
Scientific Leaders: Migo, Munday, Midgegooroo
Military Leaders: Domjuim, Heegan, Calyute, Weeip
Cities
Whadjuk
Binjareb
Ganeang
Wadandi
Wilmen
Juet
Amangu
Nganda
Widi
Gelaman
Galago
Wudjari
Njaginyagi
Goreng
Mineng
Bibelmen
Beeliar
Beeloo
Ballaruk
Swan River
Katanning
Manjimup
Mandurah
Moora
Koolyanobbing
Merredin
 
Why not an Oceania/Polynesian Mod my friend?

Just add the Maori, Samoans, Hwaiians and Rapa Nuians to the list of civs. I could possibly put that toghether quickly. What kind of mod do you have in mind? Just a Oceania map with the civs(and leaderheads) in it, with the unique units or something? I don't think there are enough Oceanic units for a huge mod unfortunately

Heres a list of units I know of:

Koori: Crocadile Warrior(By Utahjazz)
Samoa: Samoan Clubman(In the works by Kinboat)
Hwaiians: Islander(Utahjazz's Polynesian Warrior)
Rapa Nuians: Matato’a(Utahjazz's Polynesian Spearman)
Moari: ?
 
Peacemaker Trigunani of the Palawa (while ideally will have her own leaderhead, may have to use R8XFT's Sojourner leaderhead in the interim).
Attributes: Religious and Agricultural
Unit: Tracker
Scientific Leaders: Japanangka Errol West, Walter George Arthur, Michael Mansell
Military Leaders: Musquito, Manalargenna, Wooraddy, Nappelarteyer
Cities
Palawah
Oyster Cove
Lia Pootah
Trowerner
Teen Toomle Mennenyer
North Midlands
Pyemmairrener
Plangermaireener
Kutakina
Toogee
Cape Barren
Tahuni Lingah
Bass Strait
Cape Portland
Blue Tiers
Ralphs Bay
Wybalenna
Risdon Vale
Big River
Ben Lomond
 
Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Why not an Oceania/Polynesian Mod my friend?
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Why not indeed? That's essentially what I'm thinking about... the only thinig is that a real map of Oceania would have loads of Ocean... which is why I'm thinking of limiting it to New Zealand in the East, and adding a bit of South East Asia for a bit of fun. I also thought of tweaking the map to make New Zealand a little larger to fit both Maori and New Zealand Civs on there.

I want to keep the map reasonably siezed, as larger maps slow things up a bit.

Maybe we could work the Easter Islanders in as Fijians or something?
 
Elder Douglas Nicholls of the Koori (leaderhead done by R8FXT)
Attributes: Religious and Expansionist
Unit: Recognising that there is a pikeman, it would be inappropriate for this civ in this mod. It was a fantasy crocodile warrior... there are no crocodiles anywhere near Koori territory. I'm still hoping for a boomerang warrior archer replacement.
Scientific Leaders: Barak, David Unaipon, Eric Willmot
Military Leaders: Pemulway, Windrayne, Leonard Waters, Reg Saunders
Cities
Weeok
Parramatta
Weerona
Wy-yung
Kam
Ngrungit
Bung Yarnda
Metung
Dura
Cumeroogunja
Wayput
Gariwerd
Kurunjang
Dandenong
Werribee
Bareburp
Wordonga
Tallarambooroo
Djilang
Ulimaroa
Illawarra
Brindabella
Bogong
 
Prime Minister Michael Somare of the Papua (don't have a leaderhead yet).
Attributes: Religious and Militaristic
Unit: Highland Spearman
Scientific Leaders: Moro the Snake-Man, Albert Maori Kiki, Ulli Beier.
Military Leaders: Raphael Oimbari, Benjamin Moide, Batia Lega Oagi, Jerry Singirok
Cities
Port Moresby
Lae
Madang
Wewak
Goroka
Rabaul
Mount Hagen
Morobe
Arawa
Daru
Kimbe
Kavieng
Alotau
Vanimo
Palmalmal
Samarai
Emeti
Buk
Mari
Weam
Maprik
Aitape
Kiunga
Daru
Kerema
Baniara
Tufi
Kikori
Lorengau
Ambunti
Bogia
Wau
OK Tedi
 
This sounds great. Are you planing on making the mod?

BTW I noticed your avatar and played around with it a bit:

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The first one is plain and the second has some lighting effects

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/essendon1.gif
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/essendon2.gif
 
Mistfit said:
This sounds great. Are you planing on making the mod?
Click to expand...

I'd love to see this happen, so I'll do what I can... unfortunately, I don't have the programs or a good enough pc at present... I have to wait a couple of months. Thought I'd get planning underway. Might try and make a map at some stage. Hoping others might offer lists/ideas for other civs.
 
Rangatira Hone Heke Pokai of the Maori (Awaiting Rita Poon's leaderhead)
Attributes: Seafaring and Militaristic
Unit: War Party
Scientific Leaders: Kupe, Te Kooti, Te Rangi Hiroa
Military Leaders: Te Ruki Kawiti, Hongi Hika, Titokowaru, Te Rauparaha
Cities
Kororareka
Rotorua
Waitangi
Taupiri
Ngaruawahia
Papatoetoe
Pukekohe
Tuakau
Meremere
Rangarin
Te Awamutu
Kihikihi
Waitara
Orakau
Otahuhu
Waikopua
Hunua
Kumeu
Ramarama
Paparimu
Waitakere
Piha
Wharepapa
Waiau Pa
Awhitu
Takanini
Onetangi
Te Ahuahu
Puketutu
Parihaka
 
Chief Jean-Marie Tjibaou of Kanaky

Attributes: Agricultural and Commercial

UU: Melanesian Warrior??

Scientific: Tea Kanake, Wai, Yeiwene Yeiwene, Déwé Gorodé

Military leaders: Atai, Chief Bouarate, Noel of Tiamou, Eloi Machoro

City List
Nouméa
Mont-Doré
Dumbéa
Wé
Païta
Tadine
Fayaoué
Houaïlu
Poindimié
Bourail
Koné
Canala
Pouébo
La Foa
Thio
Ponerihouen
Koumac
Hienghène
Poya
Touho
Ouégoa
Voh
Vao
Kaala Gomén
Bouloupari
Yaté
Poum
Pouembout
 
Premier Richard Seddon of New Zealand (Civ army's Dom Pedro leaderhead might suit).
Attributes: Agricultural and Industrious
Unit: Armed Constabulary
Scientists: Ernest Rutherford, Alexander Aitken, Maurice Wilkins, Beatrice Tinsley
Military: Nancy Wake, Keith Park, Charles Upham
Cities
Wellington
Auckland
Christchurch
Hamilton
Palmerston North
Dunedin
Manukau
Lower Hutt
Takapuna
Waitemata
Mount Maunganui
Napier
Gisborne
New Plymouth
Invercargill
Oamaru
Levin
Masterton
Nelson
Ashburton
Inglewood
Blenheim
Greymouth
Hokitika
Queenstown
Kaikoura
Picton
 
I guess their aint much interest in the Pacific... but here is a fourth aborigine tribe anyway, to fill the gap in north western Australia on my map (which is now finished - encompasses Indonesia, Australia, PNG, New Caledonia, Fiji and New Zealand).

Jandamarra of the Bunuba (Kimberley (NW Australia) Aborigines)
Attributes: Militaristic and Religious
UU: Bullroarer Scout
Scientific Leaders: Banjo Woorunmurra, Elea Namatjira
Military Leaders: Ellemarra, Lilimarra, Pigeon
Cities:Tunnel Creek
Windjana
Napier
Derby
Mt Elizabeth
Halls Creek
Geikie Gorge
Gibb River
Oscar Range
Leopold
Mt Barnett
Bungle Bungle
Mt Hart
Quondong
Mitchell Plateau
Wyndham
Malarabah
Margaret River
Kalumburu
Faraway Bay
Willare
Lombadina
Argyle
El Questro
Kununurra
Drysdale River
Bidyadanga
Fitzroy Crossing
Lillimooloora

Only tribe left to do is Indonesia/Java (haven't yet decided which) and perhaps a polynesian civ to chuck up in the top corner of the map.
 
Sounds like a good idea.

Just a couple of things.
With the Aboriginal tribes, why are some of the cites named after European settlements and not the native tribes?.
There are plenty of Tribes in WA to use instead of European settlements.
Check this site out. I used it for my Settling Aust scenario. It puts all the Aboriginal settlements in their exact locations. It should help you a bit.
 
The Maori civ should feature the towns of Taupiri and Ngruawahia, probably somewhere near the top due to their being the seats of the Maori King movement. Waikato should not be a city, it is a very large region. And, I do wonder, why did you make Te Kooti a science leader? I do recognise that it could be justified but he was first and foremost a guerrila warrior in my book. Otherwise, I'm impressed, especially considering that you're an Aussie.
The Pakeha civ is perfect.
 
@Sir Eric - Thanks for that site, I'll use it definitely. The main reason I used some European names was the lack of info I could find on local tribes.
Sometimes, however, I've doubled up with both the European name and local indigenous name (as in Tasmania) simply for the sake of lengthening the city lists. When I find time to redo these, I'll but all the European name cities down the bottom of the lists.

@Furius
Thanks for the cities info, will amend mistakes as suggested.
Regarding Te Kooti, as well as resistance leader I believe he was considered a prophet and founder of a church movement, and inventor of a 'cultural advancement' if you like. He could have gone to either camp, and as three military great leaders existed already, I thought he'd make a good balance. I'll change it if you think he must though...
 
No, don't change it. You do have a point, in that there are 3 military leaders already. And Te Kooti did invent Modern Trench warfare so a case could be made.
And, I must admit that, on passing it yesterday I discovered that I spelt one of the cities wrong. It is Ngaruawahia, not Ngruawahia. Very sorry about that.
 
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