Cannot mod to accept more than 18 civs???

Cappella · Apr 18, 2006

I was waiting for the sdk to be able to have more than 18 civs at the same time... I took a look and found this in the file CvDefinesh :

#define MAX_CIV_PLAYERS 18

I changed it to 30, as a test, and compiled the dll, replaced my game dll with the compiled one... and no chance, can't get more than 18 civs

Anyone having more luck than me?

TheLopez · Apr 18, 2006

So exactly what does it do when you change it to 30? I looked at the code and there shouldn't be anything else that you need to change....

Cappella · Apr 18, 2006

It does just nothing... exactly like before, like if that define sets the maximum value in the engine, but there is still another limit set in the exe...

TheLopez · Apr 18, 2006

Hmmm... wierd. Maybe Kael can help...

The Great Apple · Apr 18, 2006

I seem to remember Rhye asked Firaxis, and it can't be done.

They've got to give us some reason to buy the expansion.

woodelf · Apr 18, 2006

But you can have 50 civs and the game selects a max of 18, yes?

Cappella · Apr 18, 2006

woodelf said:
But you can have 50 civs and the game selects a max of 18, yes?

Well, on the game setup screen I can't get any slot more than 18, that limit must be in the exe...

What is sad is that before when I asked the question, I was told to wait for the sdk... now it's there, and we still can't do it, it doesn't make sense.

TheLopez · Apr 18, 2006

But this doesn't mean that you can't programmatically add new civilizations to the game after the game has started right?

woodelf · Apr 18, 2006

TheLopez said:
But this doesn't mean that you can't programmatically add new civilizations to the game after the game has started right?

So in turn 1 or 5 or whenever you could have the game dump in more civs, room permitting?

Kael · Apr 18, 2006

TheLopez said:
But this doesn't mean that you can't programmatically add new civilizations to the game after the game has started right?

I dont think so. Unless your willing to kill a civ to free up the slot (this is the trick firaxis uses with animals and barbarians, they use the same civ slot but they kill all the animals before they introduce barbarians).

TheLopez · Apr 18, 2006

woodelf said:
So in turn 1 or 5 or whenever you could have the game dump in more civs, room permitting?

Yep, that's exactly what I am talking about, but it would take a change of the MAX_CIV_PLAYERS value in the SDK.

Kael said:
I dont think so. Unless your willing to kill a civ to free up the slot (this is the trick firaxis uses with animals and barbarians, they use the same civ slot but they kill all the animals before they introduce barbarians).

Well, that was before the SDK right?

I suspect that the limit is in the interface when you start the game but when the game is started and the MAX_CIV_PLAYERS is set to 50 lets say you should be able to programmatically add 32, (50-18), new civs in the game. If that is true then one of the mod components is still feasible... *looks around* ... bwahahahahaha

Red Door · Apr 18, 2006

Rhye has mentioned there being a bug for the maximum number of civilizations in a game. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait for Warlords if Firaxis wants to fix that.

Kael · Apr 18, 2006

TheLopez said:
I suspect that the limit is in the interface when you start the game but when the game is started and the MAX_CIV_PLAYERS is set to 50 lets say you should be able to programmatically add 32, (50-18), new civs in the game. If that is true then one of the mod components is still feasible... *looks around* ... bwahahahahaha

Its not a limit in the interface, its a limit in the exe.

TheLopez · Apr 18, 2006

Darn you Kael... now I will have to put aside my emerging civilization mod comp. :cry:

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