So, are we in a 12 planet Solor System?

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The other thread is lost, (can't be bothered to find :p) so today we were meant to wake up to 12 planets in our solor system. Are there? I haven't seen any news stories, so is it true? Is Charon the snowball classed as a planet, along with the rock of Ceres?
 
Time to update Celestia ;)
 
Self-explainatory

http://www.iau2006.org/mirror/www.iau.org/iau0602/index.html

At the second session of the 2006 International Astronomical Union (IAU) General Assembly, which will be held 14:00 Thursday 24 August, members of the IAU will vote on the Resolutions presented below. There will be separate sequential votes on Resolution 5A and Resolution 5B. Similarly, there will be separate votes on Resolutions 6A and 6B.

The voting on these Resolutions is expected to end today (Thursday 24 August) between 15:30 and 16:00 CEST. This is a rough estimate

A press conference about the Closing Ceremony of the General Assembly, including the results of the planet-definition vote, will be held at 18:00, in Meeting Room 3.3 of the Prague Congress Center. (It will NOT be possible for journalists to ring in to this conference: they must be there in person.)
 
I don't care about their decision, we are in 8 planet Solar System with a lot of smaller bodies like Ceres or Pluto.

If we include other snowballs beyond Pluto, one day, we'll wake up to 256 planet Solar System, because it appears that there is plenty of such trash in Kuiper Belt. And by the way, one day we can include also the Oort cloud objects: another 5000 planets :lol:
 
I agree with Winner's sentiments exactly. Pluto is only included (IMHO) because an American discovered it. if it was discovered by anyone else it would have been booted out of the 'Solar System Club' at the first sign of doubt
 
Well damn. I always thought Pluto was a good planet and our 9th.

If Mars has Martians, what does Pluto have? Fleas! Ha ha!

I hate the 3 new planets, they make our solar sytem look stupid
 
No they don't, they make it look huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.

and Pluto has Plutonians...where's PlutonianEmpire When you need him? :p
 
yeah, where exactly is PlutonianEmpire, I've not seen him about in AGES
 
salty mud said:
The other thread is lost, (can't be bothered to find :p) so today we were meant to wake up to 12 planets in our solor system. Are there?
Sheesh, it was only posted in 13 hours ago.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182968
And the even older thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182220
And the our even older planet debate thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175845
(My proposed defenition is here)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4220429&postcount=24


And because I'm listing links here's some other topical material to you thread junkies out there:
Size of the Planets, A Comparison
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175804
Astronomy Picture thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=61837
What is a planet?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130544
Tenth Planet Has A Moon
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130437
The 12th Planet (funny!)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=98113
tenth planet?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=81976
 
Perfection said:
Sheesh, it was only posted in 13 hours ago.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182968
And the even older thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182220
And the our even older planet debate thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175845
(My proposed defenition is here)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4220429&postcount=24


And because I'm listing links here's some other topical material to you thread junkies out there:
Size of the Planets, A Comparison
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175804
Astronomy Picture thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=61837
What is a planet?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130544
Tenth Planet Has A Moon
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130437
The 12th Planet (funny!)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=98113
tenth planet?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=81976

I can't believe you bothered to find all them! :eek: :shake:
 
It was never a planet, come on, the only reason it was even considered a planet was because when it was first discovered the guy screwed up and thought it was the same size as earth. I've found things at the back of my freezer bigger than pluto

I guess the rhyme is now different,

My Very Excellent Mother Just Sent Us Nine

Nine? NINE WHAT??? ARGH TELL ME!!!
 
Next on the agenda for them is a vote on how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
 
Woho! :D

Now what about the other resolutions?
RESOLUTIONS
Resolution 5A is the principal definition for the IAU usage of "planet" and related terms. Resolution 5B adds the word "classical" to the collective name of the eight planets Mercury through Neptune.

Resolution 6A creates for IAU usage a new class of objects, for which Pluto is the prototype. Resolution 6B introduces the name "plutonian objects" for this class. The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines "plutonian" as:
Main Entry: plu • to • ni • an
Pronunciation: plü-'tO-nE-&n
Function: adjective
Usage: often capitalized
: of, relating to, or characteristic of Pluto or the lower world

After having received inputs from many sides -- especially the geological community -- the term "Pluton" is no longer being considered.

IAU Resolution: Definition of a Planet in the Solar System
Contemporary observations are changing our understanding of planetary systems, and it is important that our nomenclature for objects reflect our current understanding. This applies, in particular, to the designation 'planets'. The word 'planet' originally described 'wanderers' that were known only as moving lights in the sky. Recent discoveries lead us to create a new definition, which we can make using currently available scientific information.

RESOLUTION 5A
The IAU therefore resolves that planets and other bodies in our Solar System be defined into three distinct categories in the following way:

(1) A planet(I) is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (c) has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit.

(2) A dwarf planet is a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape(II), (c) has not cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit, and (d) is not a satellite.

(3) All other objects(III) orbiting the Sun shall be referred to collectively as "Small Solar System Bodies".

(I) The eight planets are: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
(II) An IAU process will be established to assign borderline objects into either dwarf planet and other categories.
(III) These currently include most of the Solar System asteroids, most Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs), comets, and other small bodies.


RESOLUTION 5B
Insert the word "classical" before the word "planet" in Resolution 5A, Section (1), and footnote 1. Thus reading:

(1) A classical planet1 is a celestial body . . .

and

(I) The eight classical planets are: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.


IAU Resolution: Pluto

RESOLUTION 6A
The IAU further resolves:

Pluto is a dwarf planet by the above definition and is recognized as the prototype of a new category of trans-Neptunian objects.

RESOLUTION 6B
The following sentence is added to Resolution 6A:

This category is to be called "plutonian objects."
 
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