Disbanding Colonies

beancounter · Sep 25, 2008, 07:55 AM

Can you disband colonies? If so how. I remember in the old game that was a very useful feature.

rogerdude · Sep 25, 2008, 11:00 AM

In the original you could disband a colony if you moved out the last remaining unit inside it (the town couldn't exist with population zero). BUT it wasn't possible to do that if you had a stockade.

It doesn't seem to work in Civ4Col, as I try to move the last unit to Garrison, it doesn't let me (see attachement).

beancounter · Sep 25, 2008, 11:09 AM

Yep, I tried to move out the last colonist and the game would not let me. That is a real pain, I have founded some out of the way colony to score silver and now I am stuck with it. Going to be impossible to defend some coastal colony halfway around the world from the REF.

ChrTh · Sep 25, 2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by beancounter

Yep, I tried to move out the last colonist and the game would not let me. That is a real pain, I have founded some out of the way colony to score silver and now I am stuck with it. Going to be impossible to defend some coastal colony halfway around the world from the REF.

Just give it up. Remember, to beat the REF involves destroying their troops, not saving all your cities. Remember, the British were in New York City from 1776 to 1782 (1783?) and independence still occurred.

Also, that silver is going to be very hard to move for cash once the REF lands, so it's not like you're losing a very valuable resource. Heck, it might distract the REF enough that it buys you some extra turns.

EDIT: Civ4 eliminated the abandoning of cities from the prior, so I'm not surprised that Col did the same.

Jeckel · Sep 25, 2008, 12:01 PM

I'm not concerned about after I declare independence, but before I would be nice to have the 3 Colonists that are each stuck, alone, in their own city that I am no longer in need of.

ChrTh · Sep 25, 2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeckel

I'm not concerned about after I declare independence, but before I would be nice to have the 3 Colonists that are each stuck, alone, in their own city that I am no longer in need of.

They're martyrs for the cause

(hey look! a reason for late-game petty criminals!

)

Jeckel · Sep 25, 2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrTh

They're martyrs for the cause

(hey look! a reason for late-game petty criminals!

)

Or I could take those Petty Criminals and train them at an Indian Village, clear whatever specialty they get, shove guns and horses into them, and send them to war...

Not a big deal, but will make a nice, simple mod.

Lord Shadow · Sep 25, 2008, 01:11 PM

Criminals are just as good as colonists for soldier duty.

Thorn · Sep 25, 2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by beancounter

Yep, I tried to move out the last colonist and the game would not let me. That is a real pain, I have founded some out of the way colony to score silver and now I am stuck with it. Going to be impossible to defend some coastal colony halfway around the world from the REF.

Actually in the original Colonization that was good thing because the REF usually landed in large numbers near well established cities. When those fell you still had the small remote ones like the one you describe. If you held those long enough you could buy enough time for a foreign power to intervene.

Lord Shadow · Sep 25, 2008, 01:30 PM

Do foreign powers intervene in this version?

ChrTh · Sep 25, 2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeckel

Or I could take those Petty Criminals and train them at an Indian Village, clear whatever specialty they get, shove guns and horses into them, and send them to war...

Not a big deal, but will make a nice, simple mod.

That's crazy talk! They're criminals! You're going to give them guns?!? You crazy man!

... what I meant by 'late-game' was when you're about to declare independence and you're past the point of training and arming folks. Those last few dudes just sitting on your dock saying 'Why won't they settle Georgia and bring me over?' can be grabbed, dropped into cities you're planning on abandoning, and then left to DIE. Like Georgia should've been.

warroom · Sep 25, 2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Shadow

Criminals are just as good as colonists for soldier duty.

I use criminals as missionaries.

what happened to the fountain of youth, where when you found it everyone lined up on the docks? No fountain of youth?!

Honolulu Blue · Oct 02, 2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Shadow

Do foreign powers intervene in this version?

Nope.

Sep 25, 2008, 07:55 AM	#1
beancounter Chieftain Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 29	Disbanding Colonies Can you disband colonies? If so how. I remember in the old game that was a very useful feature.

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rogerdude Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 31	In the original you could disband a colony if you moved out the last remaining unit inside it (the town couldn't exist with population zero). BUT it wasn't possible to do that if you had a stockade. It doesn't seem to work in Civ4Col, as I try to move the last unit to Garrison, it doesn't let me (see attachement). Attached Thumbnails __________________ At the beginning, the Earth was without form and void... until the monkeys came around and started using sticks to better aim their poo

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Lord Shadow The Errant General Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 832 Images: 2	Do foreign powers intervene in this version? __________________ "Don't forget your great guns, which are the most respectable arguments of the rights of kings." - Frederick the Great

Sep 25, 2008, 11:09 AM	#3
beancounter Chieftain Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 29	Yep, I tried to move out the last colonist and the game would not let me. That is a real pain, I have founded some out of the way colony to score silver and now I am stuck with it. Going to be impossible to defend some coastal colony halfway around the world from the REF.

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