how to stop commando gunship?

Tecibbar · Oct 15, 2009, 06:55 PM

gunship upgrade from calvary can get commando. They can pillage border land, kill any worker attemping to work, and return to safety. There seem to be no stop to that.

Of course, AI will never have commando. I am just imaging a MP game.

DaveMcW · Oct 15, 2009, 07:30 PM

Guard anything you don't want them to kill.

mirthadir · Oct 15, 2009, 08:27 PM

Get some nukes, tell them to bugger off or else.

6K Man · Oct 15, 2009, 09:01 PM

SAM Infantry or Mobile SAMs.

TheMeInTeam · Oct 15, 2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 6K Man

SAM Infantry or Mobile SAMs.

And abuse the hell out of simultaneous turns + rails

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If going non-simultaneous, try cutting HIS lines with air power, nuke him, or just invade him. Command doesn't do much on defense.

Also, try not to allow situations like this if possible. This is a very, very late game situation.

ppciv4 · Oct 15, 2009, 10:31 PM

destory roads near border.
GA culture bomb to force them back/fort or border millitary city to protect your own mounted unit

Shafi · Oct 15, 2009, 10:41 PM

well i sure would'nt want to be in a war against this lot ...

Tecibbar · Oct 15, 2009, 10:45 PM

In my imaginary nightmare. Enemy base is on a forest hill fort right next to my border with 3 workers ready to build railroad, and of course stationed with a ton of defenders. Enemy gunships pillage my land and return to base, my sams can never reach them. My invading force lost all siege from flanking damage, and suffers from collatory damage. Nukes are banned. How could I wake up from that nightmare?

TheMeInTeam · Oct 15, 2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tecibbar

In my imaginary nightmare. Enemy base is on a forest hill fort right next to my border with 3 workers ready to build railroad, and of course stationed with a ton of defenders. Enemy gunships pillage my land and return to base, my sams can never reach them. My invading force lost all siege from flanking damage, and suffers from collatory damage. Nukes are banned. How could I wake up from that nightmare?

Wall up yourself, concede your couple border tiles, and then go raze all his coastal cities.

Or if it's really bothering you that much, do it back.

Rubbaduck · Oct 16, 2009, 06:31 AM

Exactly copying the enemy will at least bring mutual assured destruction in any game assuming comparable resources :3

To counter pillaging gunships just drop some SAMs on all important resources, guard your workers and attack their base. If you want something really strange you could pillage your own roads to limit their range. Good mindgames can also pretty much own any strategy game with a human opponent.

r_rolo1 · Oct 16, 2009, 07:10 AM

Don't road/railroad all the tiles :P If the gunships are forced into some chokepoints in the network they are far easier to catch

binhthuy71 · Oct 16, 2009, 08:09 AM

I would also suggest that you deprive your opponent of his Oil resource - no matter what it takes to do so. No oil = no gunships (And a couple of other annoying units as well).

6K Man · Oct 16, 2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tecibbar

In my imaginary nightmare. Enemy base is on a forest hill fort right next to my border with 3 workers ready to build railroad, and of course stationed with a ton of defenders. Enemy gunships pillage my land and return to base, my sams can never reach them. My invading force lost all siege from flanking damage, and suffers from collatory damage. Nukes are banned. How could I wake up from that nightmare?

Destroy fort with fighters/bombers. Or spies (can't recall if spies can wreck forts

)

Guard key improvements with SAM units. Or if the gunships are coming from a specific point, make a cordon of SAM units in a 2 tile radius around it.

If you've lost all your siege units and have no nukes and no level 6 units of your own to counter with, I'd say you need to reload your multiplayer game and make some different decisions 100 turns ago

TheWilltoAct · Oct 16, 2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shafi

well i sure would'nt want to be in a war against this lot ...

mirthadir · Oct 17, 2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tecibbar

In my imaginary nightmare. Enemy base is on a forest hill fort right next to my border with 3 workers ready to build railroad, and of course stationed with a ton of defenders. Enemy gunships pillage my land and return to base, my sams can never reach them. My invading force lost all siege from flanking damage, and suffers from collatory damage. Nukes are banned. How could I wake up from that nightmare?

Thank your enemy for parking many expensive units in an exposed position and destroy them with collateral damage. Against commano gunships you should be able to get easy CRIII arty (built in your high xp unit pump cities) and tanks which nerf the fortress and the defenders. If you have workable air power, this is also an option.

Other goodies include breaking your own rail network, bribing another civ to join the fray (or just gift you some siege/air) or abusing the UN to end the war.

Really, losing all your siege to flanking, and particularly if you can't rebuild it is pretty much a recipe for losing the game, if the enemy hasn't sacrificed something (tech, land, etc.) for this advantage that you can exploit you will ultimately be screwed by an equal player.

Tecibbar · Oct 17, 2009, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mirthadir

Thank your enemy for parking many expensive units in an exposed position and destroy them with collateral damage. Against commano gunships you should be able to get easy CRIII arty (built in your high xp unit pump cities) and tanks which nerf the fortress and the defenders. If you have workable air power, this is also an option.

Other goodies include breaking your own rail network, bribing another civ to join the fray (or just gift you some siege/air) or abusing the UN to end the war.

125%(25hill, 50forest, 25fort, 25fortify) defense bonus + Drill IV requires at least 4 times as many attacker. I dont think you could pillage your own railroad.

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Originally Posted by mirthadir

Really, losing all your siege to flanking

That's happens a lot in mutiplayer. Especially since flanking2 gunship have 55%+ chance of doing flanking damage.

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I would also suggest that you deprive your opponent of his Oil resource - no matter what it takes to do so. No oil = no gunships (And a couple of other annoying units as well).

He could just rebuild the well in the same turn.

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Guard key improvements with SAM units. Or if the gunships are coming from a specific point, make a cordon of SAM units in a 2 tile radius around it.

He has some commando tank/infantry too.

CHEESE! · Oct 17, 2009, 05:07 AM

Why is it that Gunships can USE roads? They're helicopters!

TheDS · Oct 17, 2009, 10:53 AM

Much easier to follow roads than to figure out which mountain is which.

Tecibbar · Oct 18, 2009, 05:04 AM

Need to refill gas in highway gas station

ScribJellydonut · Nov 02, 2009, 06:11 PM

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Need to refill gas in highway gas station

Lol I'm trying to picture this

Oct 15, 2009, 06:55 PM	#1
Tecibbar unliving Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ur Sorry Ass Posts: 340	how to stop commando gunship? gunship upgrade from calvary can get commando. They can pillage border land, kill any worker attemping to work, and return to safety. There seem to be no stop to that. Of course, AI will never have commando. I am just imaging a MP game.

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Oct 15, 2009, 08:27 PM	#3
mirthadir Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,194	Get some nukes, tell them to bugger off or else.

Oct 15, 2009, 09:01 PM	#4
6K Man Bureaucrat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: in a Gadda Da Vida Posts: 1,523	SAM Infantry or Mobile SAMs.

Oct 15, 2009, 10:31 PM	#6
ppciv4 Warlord Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 181	destory roads near border. GA culture bomb to force them back/fort or border millitary city to protect your own mounted unit

Oct 15, 2009, 10:41 PM	#7
Shafi King Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 636	well i sure would'nt want to be in a war against this lot ...

Oct 15, 2009, 10:45 PM	#8
Tecibbar unliving Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ur Sorry Ass Posts: 340	In my imaginary nightmare. Enemy base is on a forest hill fort right next to my border with 3 workers ready to build railroad, and of course stationed with a ton of defenders. Enemy gunships pillage my land and return to base, my sams can never reach them. My invading force lost all siege from flanking damage, and suffers from collatory damage. Nukes are banned. How could I wake up from that nightmare?

Oct 16, 2009, 06:31 AM	#10
Rubbaduck Artificial waterfowl Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 217	Exactly copying the enemy will at least bring mutual assured destruction in any game assuming comparable resources :3 To counter pillaging gunships just drop some SAMs on all important resources, guard your workers and attack their base. If you want something really strange you could pillage your own roads to limit their range. Good mindgames can also pretty much own any strategy game with a human opponent.

Oct 17, 2009, 10:53 AM	#18
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Tecibbar unliving Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ur Sorry Ass Posts: 340	Need to refill gas in highway gas station

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