Seven shot dead at US army base

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Seven people have been killed and at least 20 injured in a pair of shootings at the Fort Hood military base in Texas, the US Army has confirmed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8345713.stm

Spoiler BBC :
Seven people have been killed and at least 20 injured in a pair of shootings at the Fort Hood military base in Texas, the US Army has confirmed.

One person has been arrested and at least one more is on the run, officials said. The base has been locked down.

NBC News network said the two suspects were in military uniform and that the shooter-at-large was believed to have a high-powered sniper rifle.

Fort Hood, near the town of Killeen, is the largest US base in the world.

Home to about 40,000 US troops, the base lies between Austin and Waco, about 60 miles (97 km) from each city.

It is not yet clear whether those killed and injured are civilians or military personnel.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama had been briefed on the incident.

Army spokesman Lt Col Nathan Banks at the Pentagon told the Associated Press news agency the shootings had begun at about 1330 (1930 GMT) on Thursday at a personnel and medical processing centre at Fort Hood.

He said two shooters had been involved.

The second incident took place at a theatre on the base, he said. Emergency response officials named the site as Howze Theatre.

NBC reports that the suspect in custody is in his 20s.

At this point all those involved are believed to be military personnel, ABC reports. It says there are conflicting reports about whether there is a third shooter.

A serviceman stationed at Fort Hood who asked to remain anonymous told the BBC: "We're on lockdown. I heard the emergency announcement over the speakers outside and saw people rushing to get indoors.

"In our office we're okay but we're hearing about the deaths. It's horrible and very shocking."

'Saddened'

The BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington says there are military police and Swat teams on the scene, and the FBI is on the way from Austin and Waco. Schools in the area have also been locked down.

Units at the base are among those deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and some will have returned from there, our correspondent says.

The base is essentially like a small town, he adds, and has a centre that deals with combat stress.

Local congressman John Carter, speaking to NBC News, said gunfire had erupted half an hour before a graduation ceremony was due to begin.

Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson said in a statement: "I am shocked and saddened by today's outburst of violence at Fort Hood that has cost seven of our brave service members their lives and has gravely injured others.

"My heart goes out to their loved ones."


(CNN) -- Two gunmen in military uniforms shot and killed as many as nine people and wounded as many as 20 at Fort Hood in Texas on Thursday, officials said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/11/05/texas.fort.hood.shootings/index.html

Spoiler CNN :
(CNN) -- Two gunmen in military uniforms shot and killed as many as nine people and wounded as many as 20 at Fort Hood in Texas on Thursday, officials said.

One of the shooters has been apprehended, Fort Hood spokesman Sgt. Maj. Jamie Posten told CNN.

"At this point we're looking for the other shooter," Posten said. Asked for a description, he said, "we're trying to develop that information."

The shooters were wearing military uniforms, but it was unclear whether they were soldiers, said U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas

President Obama has been informed of the incident, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters.

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Fort Hood was asking people on post to stay away from windows, CNN affiliate KXXV said. The incident took place at the sports dome, now known as the soldier readiness area, the station reported.

FBI agents are headed to the scene to assist, said Erik Vasys, spokesman for the FBI office in San Antonio. He had no other details.

On the Fort Hood Web site, the word "closed" is posted with the statement, "Effective immediately, Fort Hood is closed. Organizations/units are instructed to execute a 100 percent accountability of all personnel."

Fort Hood is the Army's largest U.S. post, with about 40,000 troops. It is home to the Army's 1st Cavalry Division and elements of the 4th Infantry Division, as well as the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment and the 13th Corps Support Command. It is located near Killeen, Texas.

Fort Hood is home to the Warrior Combat Stress Reset Program, which is designed to help soldiers overcome combat stress issues.

In June, Fort Hood's commander, Lt. Gen. Rick Lynch, told CNN that he was trying to ease the kind of stresses soldiers face. He has pushed for soldiers working a day schedule to return home for dinner by 6 p.m., and required his personal authorization for anyone working weekends. At the time, two soldiers stationed there had committed suicide in 2009 -- a rate well below those of other posts.


2 or 3 gunmen in uniforms - that's a prepared planned attack and not a whim.
 
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Everyone remember, they fired first.
 
See how this pans out - who the shooters were and motive.

Random people that were shot? Targeted certain people? People actually in the military?

With all thats goin on down there - woiuldnt be surprising if the last names are not Gonzalez or Rodriguez or some other Mexican.

And since I know I will have to explain it - the Mexican Drug Cartels.
 
Jesus, how the hell do you make the third post a bad joke in a thread of this nature?

Three shooters? What the hell???

And since I know I will have to explain it - the Mexican Drug Cartels.

I doubt it. Cartels like all organized crime in America want as low a profile as possible. Things like this would just bring attention to them.

If I had to guess I'd say recently discharged soldiers.
 
See how this pans out - who the shooters were and motive.

Random people that were shot? Targeted certain people? People actually in the military?

With all thats goin on down there - woiuldnt be surprising if the last names are not Gonzalez or Rodriguez or some other Mexican.

And since I know I will have to explain it - the Mexican Drug Cartels.

Mexican Muslim Converts just to cover your bases.
 
Probably some ex-soldiers disgruntled with Obama or something. Bet they're birthers at the least.
 
I realize some of you see this forum as a personal clown zone, but a little respect every now and then would be nice.

Do you want to define the cases when we should be serious? We should be, but when it concerns other people as well, not just us ey?
 
What more will it take for us to realize that we need to pull out all of our troops and bases from Texas? Bring our boys home.

Today's sarcasm is directed at those who want to withdraw from Afgh due to 5 casualties.
 
Sad news. Every time I refresh the BBC homepage more people have died. Come to think of it, I suppose that's true every day...

:(
 
What more will it take for us to realize that we need to pull out all of our troops and bases from Texas? Bring our boys home.

Today's sarcasm is directed at those who want to withdraw from Afgh due to 5 casualties.

To be fair, isn't the whole argument for the wars about taking the fight to them? I have no problem with bombing Texas (As long as Jolly Roger makes it out first).
 
Sad.

Can we finally say that having an armed populace cannot reduce crime?
It appears even a military base, and trained soldiers, fall victim to concentrated mass-shooters.

I hope the perpetrators are brought to justice, and that those injured recover.
 
Sad.

Can we finally say that having an armed populace cannot reduce crime?
It appears even a military base, and trained soldiers, fall victim to concentrated mass-shooters.

I hope the perpetrators are brought to justice, and that those injured recover.

SoP means the weapons are locked up in the armory and only MPs have weapons on their person. So I'd venture a guess and say that some people will argue that a soldier should always have a side arm on them at all times now.
 
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