Prophet Among Demons (Drip's Diplomatic Challenge #1)

Hello! Welcome to my first challenge. This challenge is meant to be a diplomatic victory using one of the most peaceful men to ever walk this earth; Gandhi. However, in this situation however, Gandhi is placed in his worst nightmare...

Starting Situation:


Opponents:
• Alexander the Great [PHI/AGG]
• Genghis Khan [AGG/IMP]
• Montezuma [AGG/SPI]
• Joseph Stalin [AGG/IND]
• Ragnar [AGG/FIN]
• Shaka Zulu [AGG/EXP]

Settings:
Epic Game Speed
Ancient Start
Standard Map Size
Pangaea
Medium Sea Level
Temperate Climate
No Tribal Villages
No Random Events

Analysis (feel free to input):

The key in this game is obviously to avoid war as much as possible. Your high peace weight automatically puts you at a disadvantage. They all have relatively low peace weights which can either be a help or a hindrance. On the upside, you don't have to deal with "You traded with our worst enemy!" or "You refused to stop trading with our worst enemy!" However, them all liking each other doesn't help the war situation. Early diplomacy is essential. Winning conditions don't matter to me, but the reason I call this a diplomatic game is it requires expertise in that area to avoid early decimation. After you've made friends with everyone, however, feel free to slay them...if you can.

I don't even know if this game is possible to win on Immortal, but I'd certainly love to see someone like TheMeInTeam or someone try it. Games attached.

Posting your progress is encouraged and appreciated.

IMO Napoleon is worse than all of them. looks like fun

wbsaves are nice too or create an Emperor save... i'll go ahead and play it on monarch i guess.

the real challenge here seems to be to try to get one of the diplo victories

Humans don't have a peaceweight, they just get a flat -1 with all AIs.

i could not load the save. I received some version error that I've never seen before. Yes, I used BUG.

DaveMcW said:

Humans don't have a peaceweight, they just get a flat -1 with all AIs.

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Really? I thought you still got a hidden negative bonus.

lymond said:

i could not load the save. I received some version error that I've never seen before. Yes, I used BUG.

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Hmmm...how did you try to run it?

DripInc. said:

Hmmm...how did you try to run it?

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ummm...loaded up the save

lymond said:

ummm...loaded up the save

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Try moving the save into you publicmaps folder and run it via scenario.

it's not a WB file

questions:

1) what version of BUG are you running? shouldn't really matter

2) what mode are you running BUG - single player or multi-player (custom assets vs. stand-alone)

3) what version of BTS are you running

lymond said:

it's not a WB file

questions:

1) what version of BUG are you running? shouldn't really matter

2) what mode are you running BUG - single player or multi-player (custom assets vs. stand-alone)

3) what version of BTS are you running

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Latest BUG, dunno the version name
BTS 3.19

I think number two it the problem. I downloaded it as custom asset, deleted it out of my custom assets folder, but it still ran. Did the uninstall thing and it again it ran. Let me do a bit of digging and I'll try uploaded new saves.

BUG in custom assets should not be an issue. Not sure if a follow your install process but it sounds odd.

I have multiple Custom Asset folders that I switch in an out of. (there's actually an app you can use for this - pm "ruffhi")

You could just try creating saves with no mods running. Folks can then run the saves using BUG in CA.

The best option is WB saves. WB saves will need modifications for forum games and multiple difficulties. TMIT has a great little video on how to set up WB files for forum games - check his sig.

lymond said:

BUG in custom assets should not be an issue. Not sure if a follow your install process but it sounds odd.

I have multiple Custom Asset folders that I switch in an out of. (there's actually an app you can use for this - pm "ruffhi")

You could just try creating saves with no mods running. Folks can then run the saves using BUG in CA.

The best option is WB saves. WB saves will need modifications for forum games and multiple difficulties. TMIT has a great little video on how to set up WB files for forum games - check his sig.

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Simple fix. Try it again.

I don't even know if this game is possible to win on Immortal

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Since you set it on Epic, how could one even lose? You might as well put it on Deity since it would play around as easy as Immortal anyhow.

Why do you have a picture of a different start on the OP? I'd like to play that capital. I'd settle 1E.

Sidney Magal said:

Why do you have a picture of a different start on the OP? I'd like to play that capital. I'd settle 1E.

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Whoops, my bad. That was the start I had prior to my edits. Fix.

Regarding this save, the beginning is obvious, IMO

BTW, I'm playing on normal. I only play epic when I go large or huge.

Sidney Magal said:

Regarding this save, the beginning is obvious, IMO

Spoiler :

chariot rush Genghis

BTW, I'm playing on normal. I only play epic when I go large or huge.

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Regarding your spoiler

obsolete said:

Since you set it on Epic, how could one even lose? You might as well put it on Deity since it would play around as easy as Immortal anyhow.

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You know, I could make a map on immortal/epic that you'd have a hard time winning, as long as I'm not limited to standard map size . And that's using JUST the RNG roll and not modifying any map tiles at all.

I'm not willing to play with BUG though OP. It makes my games take ~30 minutes longer, sometimes more, and the interface for clicking on cities is annoying.

TheMeInTeam said:

You know, I could make a map on immortal/epic that you'd have a hard time winning, as long as I'm not limited to standard map size . And that's using JUST the RNG roll and not modifying any map tiles at all.

I'm not willing to play with BUG though OP. It makes my games take ~30 minutes longer, sometimes more, and the interface for clicking on cities is annoying.

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I figured not everyone would want it so it should work for bts 3.19. You gonna try this out?

DripInc. said:

I figured not everyone would want it so it should work for bts 3.19. You gonna try this out?

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Yeah probably...this one is going to be an exercise in bribes + abusing diplo. What map script is this?