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It is basically the requirements for building units that can be traded so you don't have to give away your single source of copper, iron, sulphur etc so your ally/friend* can build those units. Ofcourse it works both ways so if you're stuck without copper, maybe your ally/friend* will send you Bronze Weapons so you can get Axemen. They will also speed up production of units as unitproduction (the way I see it) is both training men and weapon production. The later is not fully implemented, but works for Archers so far.
edit : And most importantly it gives the AI an important tool for when under sieges still being able to construct armies even though the single iron ore was pillaged as the first thing when the player declared war. It is now a 2-part process to cripple an enemy's army production. Firstly the resource should be pillaged and secondly the forges/smiths/weapons manufacturer etc should be sabotaged by spies.
editedit : * And this taking into account that your enemy's enemy is your friend, sending him weapons that he might not have resources for, will in turn help keeping your enemy down. Beware though that your enemy might do this as well.
edit : And most importantly it gives the AI an important tool for when under sieges still being able to construct armies even though the single iron ore was pillaged as the first thing when the player declared war. It is now a 2-part process to cripple an enemy's army production. Firstly the resource should be pillaged and secondly the forges/smiths/weapons manufacturer etc should be sabotaged by spies.
editedit : * And this taking into account that your enemy's enemy is your friend, sending him weapons that he might not have resources for, will in turn help keeping your enemy down. Beware though that your enemy might do this as well.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
Dumb question but I'll ask any way, Does version 0.65 already contain the Graphics D/L or is that in addition to? Same question for the Music.
And version 0.66 has added content that 0.65 didn't, right?
Just trying to catch up.
My version 0.65 game has reached the late 1600's AD. I'm one of the larger Empires but I'm technology backwards. I have a strong/plentiful army but I just got Galleons while most of the leaders have frigates and privateers. So my navy is weak.
I think I have now met all of the AI. The Chinese were the 1st to circumnavigate the world. I have only explored about 50% to date. If the French, Arabs, or Gilgamesh decide to invade it will be a rough go!
JosEPh
And version 0.66 has added content that 0.65 didn't, right?
Just trying to catch up.
My version 0.65 game has reached the late 1600's AD. I'm one of the larger Empires but I'm technology backwards. I have a strong/plentiful army but I just got Galleons while most of the leaders have frigates and privateers. So my navy is weak.
I think I have now met all of the AI. The Chinese were the 1st to circumnavigate the world. I have only explored about 50% to date. If the French, Arabs, or Gilgamesh decide to invade it will be a rough go!
JosEPh
I think its wiser to download all of it now. 0.66 was the version where I split them up (though I havent changed anything in the Guild Graphics nor the Terrain Graphics, so the graphic part is not needed. Regarding to the game, I changed the calendar step as descriped in CALENDAR part after the latest game I had. I made it to around 1500 AD on Noble and the AI fed me with techs though I was on the top of the chart. I think the AI needs more buildings as it was quite happy putting its biggest cities on Research, which I guess is why the AI was outteching me. I then decided to declare war on my closest (and only direct) neighbourgh after he sneaked in a maceman (moving "under" my workers and outposted armies) and whacked my Warlord Captain. That was a really bad idea as I havent made any military intelligence and the army I had was fought down like wheat under a reaper.
I was really happy about seeing the AI working so well, both in building, researching, training and especially combat (it seemed to grasp the new movement concept extraordinarily well), though a little bit embarrassed that going from Deity in RoM, I got beaten on Noble in my own mod
I'll upload a new version soon. Not so much added as I mostly played, but fixing a few things and balancing others.
I was really happy about seeing the AI working so well, both in building, researching, training and especially combat (it seemed to grasp the new movement concept extraordinarily well), though a little bit embarrassed that going from Deity in RoM, I got beaten on Noble in my own mod
I'll upload a new version soon. Not so much added as I mostly played, but fixing a few things and balancing others.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
I started an 0.66 game last night. I normally only play against 7 or 8 AI on an Archi map to test mods on. I forgot to reduce the # of AI so I now have 2 neighbors on my archipelago. We'll see how this goes as I now have to claim the choice land asap. My Capital city had 4 resources (corn, horse, cow, and incense) by the time I got to Monotheism, and that helped a bunch.
The reefs will make exploration more strategic and take longer.
I'm playing on Noble level as always.
Home sick today so between naps I'll get some more play time in. ( I can hear my boss now-- "if you're well enough to sit at a computer your well enough to work out that bucket truck!" Slacker!"
)
JosEPh
The reefs will make exploration more strategic and take longer.
I'm playing on Noble level as always.
Home sick today so between naps I'll get some more play time in. ( I can hear my boss now-- "if you're well enough to sit at a computer your well enough to work out that bucket truck!" Slacker!"
)JosEPh
The AI has a tendency to wait massive expansion to early early middleage, but will keep to the capital plus 2-4 cities. Though not all the AI will do that. It seems to keep them in shape for further expansions as the capital and a couple of cities will then be stronger.
In the meantime I put in the camel. (damn I hate to mess around with alphachannels and gamefonts.) It takes alot of time to do properly, but I'm pretty happy about the result :
It just need it to be more consistent in its appearance. I also went over all the other resources as some would almost never show up on the map (almost all of the RoM resources had strange xml.)
It is not perfect yet, but its getting there.
I also changed the dds for the Cart Path, as it was almost impossible to see it before. It is still quite easy to tell the difference between Dirt Road and Cart Path.
Edit : And got my Industry mod implemented, though its, sadly, without pollution as this would require DLL changes. On top of that I put in Opium resource (poppies)
In the meantime I put in the camel. (damn I hate to mess around with alphachannels and gamefonts.) It takes alot of time to do properly, but I'm pretty happy about the result :
It just need it to be more consistent in its appearance. I also went over all the other resources as some would almost never show up on the map (almost all of the RoM resources had strange xml.)
It is not perfect yet, but its getting there.
I also changed the dds for the Cart Path, as it was almost impossible to see it before. It is still quite easy to tell the difference between Dirt Road and Cart Path.
Edit : And got my Industry mod implemented, though its, sadly, without pollution as this would require DLL changes. On top of that I put in Opium resource (poppies)
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
Learning that with early expansion you really need to make good use of Tradeposts and Plantations, as these 2 bldgs are your main gold producers besides certain resources.
Current 0.66 game is at January, 1420 AD. I'm the Largest Empire but at a cost. I'm using up my Gold as fast as I can produce it and by doing so my research rate is below the AI's. So I've had to resort to making some lopsided Tech trades to keep within reach of the AI Tech Leaders. Very busy trader I am.
Your Cog still has the "Text_Key_ X_X" display problem. As do several of your techs. See Screen shots.
I had almost forgotten how "Demanding" the AI can be in Vanilla BtS.
Now that I have hit Medieval Era the Time flow seems to be better under Epic level. Before the research seemed to be taking too long. Of course with my Research rate below 50% that had a lot to do with the speed of getting the Techs done.
Got caught off guard by a Japanese War Lord unit. I have Open Borders with Japan and had sent a Chariot to check out his empire (as he has been doing to me). Got to the tile next to Tokyo and the War Lord came out and killed my Chariot. I expected a declaration of War, but it didn't come, and Japan was actually "Pleased" with me. The I looked closer at the 'specs" of the War Lord, Du-Oh! So I built 1 too for my Capital city. What's Good for the AI ought to be good for me too!
Salt, seems to be a rare resource, is it planned that way? Or do I need to build more Quarries? And will you be adding Butchery and Tannery to the Mod?
Havin' Fun I am.
JosEPh
Current 0.66 game is at January, 1420 AD. I'm the Largest Empire but at a cost. I'm using up my Gold as fast as I can produce it and by doing so my research rate is below the AI's. So I've had to resort to making some lopsided Tech trades to keep within reach of the AI Tech Leaders. Very busy trader I am.
Your Cog still has the "Text_Key_ X_X" display problem. As do several of your techs. See Screen shots.
I had almost forgotten how "Demanding" the AI can be in Vanilla BtS.
Now that I have hit Medieval Era the Time flow seems to be better under Epic level. Before the research seemed to be taking too long. Of course with my Research rate below 50% that had a lot to do with the speed of getting the Techs done.
Got caught off guard by a Japanese War Lord unit. I have Open Borders with Japan and had sent a Chariot to check out his empire (as he has been doing to me). Got to the tile next to Tokyo and the War Lord came out and killed my Chariot. I expected a declaration of War, but it didn't come, and Japan was actually "Pleased" with me. The I looked closer at the 'specs" of the War Lord, Du-Oh! So I built 1 too for my Capital city. What's Good for the AI ought to be good for me too!
Salt, seems to be a rare resource, is it planned that way? Or do I need to build more Quarries? And will you be adding Butchery and Tannery to the Mod?
Havin' Fun I am.
JosEPh
Uploading 0.67
Added : Bakery, Butchery, Bazaar, Brewery (B is the keyletter) and Glassworks.
Changed the granary system to 10% for each : fishing village, granery, bakery, butchery & grocer.
Spread out the new resources on market, grocer and bazaar.
Added a ton of new resources : Camel, Opium, Natural Gas, Alcohol, Glassware, Fuel, Steel, Alloys, Electronics and synthetic rubber
Tweaked improvements
Fixed a bunch of other small stuff.
Fixed a couple of key_text
Added African unitstyle, but no units yet.
Next update will contain a couple of units* and then I'll focus on post gunpowder as ancient, classical and medieval are "finished".
*Light Spearman, Heavy Swordsman, Horseman, Cataphract, Ram, Arbalest
Added : Bakery, Butchery, Bazaar, Brewery (B is the keyletter
) and Glassworks.Changed the granary system to 10% for each : fishing village, granery, bakery, butchery & grocer.
Spread out the new resources on market, grocer and bazaar.
Added a ton of new resources : Camel, Opium, Natural Gas, Alcohol, Glassware, Fuel, Steel, Alloys, Electronics and synthetic rubber
Tweaked improvements
Fixed a bunch of other small stuff.
Fixed a couple of key_text
Added African unitstyle, but no units yet.
Next update will contain a couple of units* and then I'll focus on post gunpowder as ancient, classical and medieval are "finished".
*Light Spearman, Heavy Swordsman, Horseman, Cataphract, Ram, Arbalest
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
I like all the "B" words! But I hope the "T" word is with one of them.
Almost hate to give up the current 0.66 game. I'm the biggest empire city wise, 2nd in Military strength, but about 6th in Techs researched. Uncomfortable to be several levels below the leaders in tech. I'm fighting Privateers with Cogs and Caravels and have to travel in fairly large packs to make my destinations.
Most of the Tech AI leaders only have 5 - 8 cities in their Empire and most Capitals range from 18-22 in pop size. Current year is 1652AD.
Well, time to install 0.67.
JosEPh
Almost hate to give up the current 0.66 game. I'm the biggest empire city wise, 2nd in Military strength, but about 6th in Techs researched. Uncomfortable to be several levels below the leaders in tech. I'm fighting Privateers with Cogs and Caravels and have to travel in fairly large packs to make my destinations.
Most of the Tech AI leaders only have 5 - 8 cities in their Empire and most Capitals range from 18-22 in pop size. Current year is 1652AD.
Well, time to install 0.67.
JosEPh
HannibalBarka
We are Free
just downloaded it. Starts fine, custom game hemisphere had the settler etc build my capital first turn ok, but it crashes very quickly
Did you download the textures too? Did you put it in the documents folder or the programs folder?
I've had a couple of games to 1500 AD and is currently in 780 BC on 0.67.
I'll try the Hemisphere and see if there are problems with some of the mapscripts. I know the Balanced Map script cannot be run.
EDIT: Nope, seems to run ok, even on Giant size, and I have a pretty low end computer (3200 MHz DualCore (which I guess is 1600 MHz for Civ 4 as it doesnt run on dual core) 1.5 GB Ram and 128 MB graphics).
At what point does it crash and can you supply with a savegame? It's very strange that it crashes as memorywise it is almost the same as Civ BtS vanilla and there hasnt been any DLL changes.
Welcome
1)I always wanted the AI to expand like it does in VIP, though I havent done a single thing AFAIK,except the citystates (delayed settlerbuilds) to encourage it. I was tired of the AI always rushing out and settling the hole world almost before 1AD. This way there will be citystates (due to settlerbuilds with Pottery & Animal Husbandry) and later small kingdoms scattered around the globe. Some of them will grow into empires, while others will (deliberately or not) remain small BUT still very competitive (and then there will be those who didnt stood the Test of Times). I didnt change values regarding maintenance or number of cities (besides whats in the civics) but it can be very costly to overexpand too early, and will stagnate research considerably. Now I just try to follow the AI, as it seems to play the game better than me.
(I guess thats a good sign).I miss Minor Civs and Revolutions though, but the cost of memory/processor power of the cool mods (revdcm, bug, bull, betterAI etc etc) was too heavy on my system, and the combination of "small but effective" civs and therefore hypothetically less units (though I got beaten a couple of times) makes my computer run 1500 AD turns in less than 10 seconds on a Giant map with 18 civs. (around this time it would take 3-5 min/turn in RoM AnD on a Large map).
I would however like to put the mod on a "warmonger player test", as I'm mostly a civilized builder and only starts to conquerer in the later eras (from medieval and forth).
3) I never understood why whipping was taken out of RoM. It's a pretty good defensive tool for the AI, and even though I enabled it both with slavery but also Divine Cult and Fascism, the AI doesnt seem to have problems with citysize.
