Abstract art

WillJ · Jan 23, 2004

What do you think of abstract art? Do you consider it real art? Do you not understand why some pieces that just have colored rectangles can get extremely famous and expensive, yet really good looking realistic paintings can sell for $5 at a mom-and-pop store?

I've always found the modern non-objective art phenomenon pretty stupid. If a "work of art" is not pleasing to look at, can be done by a ******** dog with three legs, and doesn't even represent anything, it's not art. But apparently some of the artistic elite think otherwise. Heck, Jackson Polluck is sometimes considered the greatest American artist ever. (Click here to see some of his work.)

Edit: I also don't get it when art "experts" sometimes mention how a piece of non-objective abstract art "expresses the artist's feelings." What the crap? How does a bunch of splotchy paint or oddly shaped clay and/or metal display feelings?

Archer 007 · Jan 23, 2004

I find abstract art to be odd and stupid.

gael · Jan 23, 2004

I'm not an art buff, but i used to sell paintings a good few years back when i was stuck for cash. (landscapes, boring sh*te that sells)

My cousin had an art gallery and i would stay in her house a few weekends. She would have these arty people come round and they would smoke dope and lay out the latest paintings that were to be hung up in the gallery.

Some of these paintings were of smudged paint, and that was it, but they would talk about it for ages.....talking absolute crap.
I had to walk out a few times to pretend I was going to the toilet just so i wouldn'd burst out laughing in they're face.

cgannon64 · Jan 23, 2004

Pollock is great, because you can find fractals and stuff in his paintings. Who knows how, but he managed to get really really accurate by dripping paint on paper.

I'm not a huge fan of abstract art, but I occaisonally like a few things. I prefer regular art though.

I'm not even a big fan of paintings and stuff, probably the biggest form or visual art I appreciate are films and cartoons...

gael · Jan 23, 2004

Surrealism is cool.

WillJ · Jan 23, 2004

Originally posted by cgannon64
Pollock is great, because you can find fractals and stuff in his paintings. Who knows how, but he managed to get really really accurate by dripping paint on paper.

Really? Maybe I should look into that.

cgannon64 · Jan 23, 2004

At least I remember hearing that. Google it.

Here's a random quote from an article:

...five drip paintings sent to us by collectors who suspected their acquisitions might have been created by Pollock. Despite superficial similarities with Pollocks work, none of the paintings contained fractal patterns. The fractals are the product of the specific technique that Pollock devised, and all the 20 drip paintings of his that we have analyzed have this fractal structure.

gael · Jan 23, 2004

Pollock is crap. I've seen monkeys with more talent.

Syterion · Jan 23, 2004

Surrealism isn't realistic, but at least you can tell what's going on, and you actually have a chance of interpreting it. These, days, you can tell your kid to throw paint at a canvas and it could sell if you find the right way to sell it.

gael · Jan 23, 2004

Originally posted by Syterion
Surrealism isn't realistic, but at least you can tell what's going on, and you actually have a chance of interpreting it. These, days, you can tell your kid to throw paint at a canvas and it could sell if you find the right way to sell it.

Surrealism isn't meant to be realistic,...it all the name.

Its dream images and heavily influenced by Frueds theories on how the mind works, using symbolism with a touch of crazy.

Its good to look at as well.

Archer 007 · Jan 23, 2004

Picasso was interesting, so maybe i recant.

andrewgprv · Jan 23, 2004

Abstract art is great! Since the photograph realistic art lost it's purpose. Really the only way for painting art to survive was to give it another purpose and so abstract art was created giving the artist the ability to paint something a photograph cannot capture. Emotions, Ideas, etc....specifcially things that are abstract.

andrewgprv · Jan 23, 2004

My favorite Abstract Artist. Kadinsky

andrewgprv · Jan 23, 2004

Let's try this again.

andrewgprv · Jan 23, 2004

More Kadinsky

pandora · Jan 24, 2004

oh i love kandinski!
and i'm right now sitting beneath a copy-poster of "les trois sphinx de bikini" so... thumbs up

pandora · Jan 24, 2004

Originally posted by WillJ
What do you think of abstract art? Do you consider it real art? Do you not understand why some pieces that just have colored rectangles can get extremely famous and expensive, yet really good looking realistic paintings can sell for $5 at a mom-and-pop store?

sorry for dp. i first thought the threadstarter was pro art.

so...
i think you are talking about things like mondrian?
mondrian is much more famous than kandinsky for good reason.
i cannot (and nobody will) tell you the point about abstact art if you dont see it.
you can exchange the colors of some of mondrians rectangles.
if your head isnt screaming, cause what you first had was good and what got after the changes is bull****, you dont see it and i cannot "proof" it.

its the same about music - modern jazz for example:
if you dont hear the the fantastic brilliance of isotope 217 or yo la tengo nobody can make you understand with any kind of argument.

Originally posted by Syterion
Surrealism isn't realistic, but at least you can tell what's going on, and you actually have a chance of interpreting it. These, days, you can tell your kid to throw paint at a canvas and it could sell if you find the right way to sell it.

no. it will not work, not if thats all about it.

Perfection · Jan 24, 2004

Originally posted by gael
Pollock is crap. I've seen monkeys with more talent.

Because you can't see the rythym and texture! Pollock may seem random, but it has this entrancing quality to it. I love it.

In fact I find abstract art to be the most appealing. It shows us things we cannot see in nature and civilization. It's a whole new perspective.

Lyonesse · Jan 24, 2004

I kept trying to tell my kindergarten teacher it was real art dang it! I knew I should have kept painting like that!

Karl Lenin · Jan 24, 2004

Art is meant to give you feelings and emotions, and sometimes can some chaotic lines do that just as good as a picture of CHE.

Abstract art

Your opinion of abstract art...

It sucks. The more realistic a work of art, the better. (generally, at least)

It can be good if the subject is recognizable and the artist is making a point.

It's great. Even non-objective (no recognizable subject matter) art is real art.

It was once in style, perhaps even good. Now the fad is (or should be) over.

The quality of art is directly proportional to its resemblence of a giant radioactive monkey.

Other. (That's right, the above option was a genuine option.)

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