Term 3: Embassy to C3B

Hello, hello

This is the Embassy to C3B for term 3. Currently the chats with C3B are on Saterdays at 14:00 GMT weekly.

C3B ambassador to us: Silverwolf
C3B Minister of Forigen Affairs: JokerDF

Current residence: Zoi, at my summer house

Hi there, i´m still without internet at Home so i won´t be using AIM soon.

same things i wanted to talk about:
1- Chat next saturday same time right?
2- I heard that your people got "very very angry" with us because of our proposal. But i just want to remember that my people got "very very angry" too after you blocked us twice and your warrior that took a long time to go home (ours went home directly). After all you broke an agreement that we made with DZ, you were not caming back, you were exploring. That proposal was born because of it. But i don´t think that this makes cooperation impossible, it´s just that when land exploration is the subject we always remember what you did.
3- You probaly didn´t want to make us angry, the same here.
4- We are thinking at new proposals of DMZ, i didn´t understand why i got so mad with our line, we accepted 90% of your agreement. And i think that many agreements will be changed to benefit both countries. But as you refused it, we are thinking at a new DMZ, i hope we have it by saturday.
5 - What about the agreement of sea exploration? Did you received it? If you want to change anything just say, i made it very simple. If you agree, we may send it to the Admins. I did not add anything, it is just the NAP that we have plus the sea exploration
6- Our people realy want to cooperate with you, but all you are doing at past chats is refusing our agreements and not proposing others. I hope that you still want to cooperate with us. At next chat we will bring new agreements.

i think this is it. We may talk by private mensages or e-mail for now.

Please reply.
Joker

-A message sent to me today from the former ambassidor and currently foriegen affairs dude of C3B
I sent him the info about the chat but that is about it, nothing improtant.

I almost forgot.
We are thinking at new proposals on techs.
We didn´t aprove that deal, because we realy don´t want math now, but you are at writing now right? I´m thinking at new deals here
Maybe we could involve gold in the tech deal too, what do you think? If possible say how much you may negociate, i will check this at my country.

Proposals from your side are welcome too

-Came about 2 hours later, I really want to see some tech deals going on. Any thoughts?

Tech deals: what do we have, what do they have currently?

2- I heard that your people got "very very angry" with us because of our proposal. But i just want to remember that my people got "very very angry" too after you blocked us twice and your warrior that took a long time to go home (ours went home directly). After all you broke an agreement that we made with DZ, you were not caming back, you were exploring. That proposal was born because of it. But i don´t think that this makes cooperation impossible, it´s just that when land exploration is the subject we always remember what you did.Don't even respond to this. Childish behaviour. But if you do want to explain: tell them the warrior was attacked by barbarians.

3- You probaly didn´t want to make us angry, the same here.Untrue: they intentionally demand a worker to anger us.

4- We are thinking at new proposals of DMZ, i didn´t understand why i got so mad with our line, we accepted 90% of your agreement. And i think that many agreements will be changed to benefit both countries. But as you refused it, we are thinking at a new DMZ, i hope we have it by saturday.
I have no more interest in a pre-determined DMZ. But if other team members do, it has to be very very close to the green line we proposed.

5 - What about the agreement of sea exploration? Did you received it? If you want to change anything just say, i made it very simple. If you agree, we may send it to the Admins. I did not add anything, it is just the NAP that we have plus the sea exploration No limitations on sea exploring. The only thing CFC can agree on at this time is that enterring the other nations borders without permission is considered a declaration of war.

6- Our people realy want to cooperate with you, but all you are doing at past chats is refusing our agreements and not proposing others. I hope that you still want to cooperate with us. At next chat we will bring new agreements.Let's pass the insult untouched. It's not strange or wrong to refuse unfair proposals. We are looking forward to C3B's new, fair, proposals.

I have to say I totally agree with Rik here.

2- we had the right to block the warrior, we had the landbridge. We even let the to see our borders!
We started to retreat with the northern warrior. They are just behaving badly. We broke no agreement here.

5- I agree wit Rik. (too lazy to write it up again...)

6- ditto #5

Rik Meleet said:

3- You probaly didn´t want to make us angry, the same here.Untrue: they intentionally demand a worker to anger us.

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From my understanding they only asked that becuase one of their citizens wanted them to ask us. I don't think they ment to anger us.

Umm... neither did we. Say that to them.

I won't be at home this weekend.

Matrix said:

I won't be at home this weekend.

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Then would you like to leave some things we would like to cover at the chat?

That's all covered in this thread.

Matrix said:

I won't be at home this weekend.

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Will you invade my cultural borders of the Nijmegen-area again ?

No, I'm going to Lemmer this time.

There is a chat with C3B at 14:00GMT at #isdg_cfc_embassy. Please be there.

I have goings by that time, sorry.


Foreign Minister misses the chat... as long as Cheetah and you are there, it is ok.



Just remember that you won't immidiately say something like "I like it". say "I'll ask the citizenry" or something like that instead.

It's getting better. I won't be able to make it either. Promised a friend to help him paint a house and I won't be back in time afterall.

Really sorry about this, but I trust Emp. Napoleon and whoever else that shows up will do a good job. Just remember, it's always an idea to discuss it in #demogame_cfc_isdg before saying it to C3B in #isdg_cfc_embassy...

Too bad, no password protection now.

<EMP> It looks like our newly elected Minister of Internal Affairs (president) will not be able to make it
<Joker> that´s ok
<Joker> Krasan is a citizen and Urubu is a reporter from our neewspaper
<EMP> nor his deputy
<EMP> wow a newspaper
<EMP> you guys really are involved
<UrUbU> 4,1 10R 11o 10l 11e 11 10P 11l 10a 11y 11 10: 11P
<Joker> of corse, free information, democracy right?
<EMP> lol
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<UrUbU> 4,1 10w 11o 10a
<Joker> saturno is ours... the nickname alredy tells it
<EMP> lol yes
<Joker> let´s start?
<Saturno_Citizen_C3b> hello
<EMP> sure
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<EMP> so you all got that little e mail yesterday
<Joker> yeap
<EMP> and would you like to comment on it?
<Joker> yeap
<Joker>
<EMP> lol then go ahead
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<Joker> ok, "unfair treaties", what treaties exacly? (plural)
<EMP> the main one would be the one about the worker you wanted
<EMP> and the boat treaty proposal
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<Joker> the boat treaty was unfair? why?
<EMP> because we would get nothing out of it, since we do not really wanna explore up around you
<Joker> now i´m confused
<Joker> we proposed the agreement, you didn´t agree, you said you would make a proposal, then you acepted it, then i send the agreement to ratify it, now you say in anfair
<Joker> explain to me please
<EMP> when we tried to ratify it it failed again
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<EMP> That one time we approved it we had just built a currack, but then we found out that we will be sendingit elsewhere than your borders
<EMP> That is why It did not pass when we tried to put it in a treaty form
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<Joker> is just like land exploration. what made us mad was not you bloking our warrior, was that after we came back you proposed a land exploration because you wanted to explore.
<EMP> but we never approved the land exploration, that is why we left your territory
<Joker> ok then. So did you bring any proposals? agreements?
<EMP> well is that it for the e mail
<EMP> ?
<Joker> sorry, what do you mean by that?
<EMP> Are you done with talking about the e mail
<Joker> Actualy not, we will send you an offical letter too
EMP> o ok
<EMP> but in this chat do you have anything more you would like to talk about in that letter
<Joker> Not for now
<EMP> o ok
<EMP> now you wanted some tech deals
<EMP> now what are you reserching now
<Joker> We wanted to see what were your real intentions today, that's why we came.
<Joker> In your letter, you said you understoodd our reactions, but it was pretty clear that was not the case.
<Joker> We feel that before we can negotiate, we should respond to your letter and make everything clear.
<EMP> I really don't see how that has to do with techs, but if it makes you feel better then we can hold it off untill later
<Joker> We believe that proposing deals that are approved only because it fits Fanaticans goals for a certain time frame, and that will be denied as soon as those goals are changed is not very productive. We really want that our periodic meetings have an official meaning.
<Joker> so i would like to ask you if you brought any proposals? it is always us that bring them (and you decline them)
<EMP> well that is what I want to talk about
<EMP> I want to get a feal for what you want
<EMP> now we will be getting writing soon
<Joker> ok, how many turns?
<EMP> 14
<EMP> now we all know how valuable writing is
<EMP> and how much it is worth
<EMP> so would it be tradeable for Cerimonial Burial, myst, and poly
<EMP> or is that to much?
<Joker> it is too much, you may check at civ3 editor and see that the price of writing is the same of math
<Joker> but c3b people think that we should make things more clear before negociating
<Pggar> and that editor aside, that not much, it is gigantic or more than tah
<Joker> but c3b people think that we should make things more clear before negociating
<Pggar> and that editor aside, that not much, it is gigantic or more than tah
<EMP> how about some gold with that?
<Joker> so we will send you an official letter to make things more clear
<EMP> ok
<Joker> That's why all of us should withdraw for now and come back when we have everything cleared up and we are heady to deal in an official way.
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<Pggar> see ya later
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Now this is not a logged chat, I had to use cut and paste so a little may be missing. Can someone be on the look out for this offical letter?

Looks like a short chat, I didn't miss anything.




No official messages arrived yet.

Awww and I was up that early today anyway

I was really trying to come but I had to work andhelp someone move