StNNES III: Ruins of Empires
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erez87
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Wait?! You redo the last update or make a new one?!
If A new one!
GROW ECONOMY.
expand in Africa, make landings on the coasts.
Settle ahead of Indonesia go to Papua-New-Gini and other islands. Continue searching countries north to China.
If A new one!
GROW ECONOMY.
expand in Africa, make landings on the coasts.
Settle ahead of Indonesia go to Papua-New-Gini and other islands. Continue searching countries north to China.
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Update 12: 800 BCE
The day dawned gray, cold, and bleak over the fields of Lyons. Thousands of dead lay there. Thousands had been killed, all for the glory of an Empire. Men from all over. Berber. Iberian. Celtic. German. Malian. All lay there. Killed on this field of valor, of glory, of sorrow.
The field stank of putrid flesh. The sun crept over the horizon, nearly blood-red rays pouring over the Rhone River valley in a cascade of light, illuminating the piles of corpses, replete in macabre majesty. It had been an incredible battle.
The Tartessians had been determined to not repeat the same mistake they had made at Cremona, yet alas, their sheer numbers and deployment made for a rather confusing pitch. Their cavalry came almost at noontime due to disorganization, but eventually managed to sort things out enough to approach the Gauls. The Berbers and Numudians easily crushed the enemy light cavalry, but their subsequent withdrawal to let the Contrarius forward led to massive confusion. Shouts in about five to a dozen different languages were being hurled in every direction, and the movement barely got going at all; the cavalry were weighed down by the language barrier, and inefficient structuring.
The infantry advanced regardless, and a great attack of allied spearmen met the Gallic spears in the middle of the battlefield, but the archers on the Tartessian side were somewhat negated by their Gallic counterparts, who had learned well from their wars with the Tartessians long ago; they too used the showering volleys of arrows to decimate the enemy.
The infantry clash ruined the center of both armies, but the final crushing blow was when the flying wing of cavalry was able to skirt the battlefield and smash the gallic infantry from behind. Only a few Gauls made it out alive.
But of course, this was not the only theater that the Tartessians fought in.
Far off, to the West, in the great dividing sea called the Mediterranean, the Tartessians attempt an assault on Rhodes. They advance with their Hittite, Trojan, and Theban allies on Southern Anatolia. Anticipating a big fight, the great assembled army marches slowly. But they find nothing. They find the forts abandoned and derelict, they find the cities huddled shadows of their former self, much of the population gone.
The Rhodians had avoided them.
Not to be deterred, the Tartessians launched their naval assault. They drew up a massive fleet, over a hundred warships, but the Rhodians also had over a hundred warships. The fleets met at the coast of Rhodes.
The Rhodian fleet drew up in a sort of crescent formation, one tip clinging to the harbor entrance, the other tip a flying wing on the left. The Tartessian allied fleet sailed to meet them, but their strategy was hampered by the fact that Carthages ships were mysteriously absent (it was only known later that the Carthaginians had ironically used pirates to escort their new Greek guests over to the homeland.
Thus, without their key mobile arm of the navy, the fleet was much smaller than expected. It was still massive, though, and they were quite ready to engage the Rhodes fleet. The Carthaginian Quinqiremes leading the hammer blow to the center, triremes behind, the allied fleet sailed forward, intending to crush them with superior experience, and weaponry.
But they did not.
We will fight in the sea, we will fight in the harbor, we will fight in the city, we will fight in hell. Rhodes will never succumb to Tartessos as long as I live declared the Rhodes admiral right before the battle. His men were encouraged by this, and they rowed eagerly into battle, crying Helios watches over us!.
This seemed eerily true to the allied fleet, whose rowing grew timid as they entered the shadow of the brazen giant of the Colossus of Rhodes, newly completed. It gleamed in the sun, and its crowned head gazed over the area as though it really did watch over the Rhodes fleet.
The Tartessians still seemed to prevail initially, though. But the turning point came, perhaps as a ruse, perhaps as a simple mistake of logistics, when the Tartessians pushed the enemy past the entrance to the harbor, whereupon about 30 triremes hidden in the harbor darted out and plowed through the flank of the Tartessian fleet. The Tartessians were crushed, and the allied fleet was sent limping home. The Rhodes fleet was battered as well, but their people are ready enough for any fight.
Then there were the Ashanti.
The Tartessian creme de la creme, the ultimate in shock troops had come several thousand miles to the south of their well known homes into unknown territory. They told the Malians to begin diversionary raids, which they carried out with half a heart, but were defeated by the Ashanti. Then the Tartessians, impatient, started the real assault. The shock was immense.
They traveled not even a mile from the coast before they realized how immense the problem of fighting the Ashanti was. The rainforest was no place for metal cuirasses and breastplates, and their rations got soaked an rotted within a day. They could barely set out before some other calamity happened upon them. Men desperately trudged forward, not sure wether they would die in the next few minutes, or not.
They were constantly harried by Ashanti raids, arrows plunging into their horses without warning. They had to slap constantly at mosquitoes, and many fell sick with high fevers.
When they finally met the Ashanti army, their numbers had already been thinned, their armor and helmets long packed away, they were no longer anything like the proud, organized force they had once been. Alas, forward they marched, nonetheless.
Right into a perfectly laid ambush.
With Ashanti spearmen, swordsmen, and cavalry crashing in from all sides, the Tartessian cavalry were trapped in the midst of a massive pincer. The only man to salvage the day was a formerly low ranking officer, Gaius Marius, who, near the rear of the cavalry vanguard, wheeled about and galloped at the infantry. He began to shout of the war god, and how he favored this battle. And quite picturesquely, he turned once again, raised his sword, then swung it to point at the foes. A massive infantry charge barely broke the encircling ring, enough so that a few of the Contrarius actually made it back.
Tartessos also had a new hero.
Back in Tartessos proper, research into new building materials goes OK, but reveals nothing much new. New fleets try to expand colonization in the new world, but these do not go all that well; it becomes clear that while a madman, Praxitilles was the best navigator of his time. Many ships in the new fleets are lost to storms, while the attempts at settlement are plagued with new diseases and raids by some of the more hostile tribes, and fail to develop into any permanent thing.
But one bright spot does shine. The rising star of Gaius Marius, the greatest general of Tartessos, singlehandedly responsible for stopping utter disaster in Ashanti territory.
Far to the north of all this, the Northern-Baltic seas area is relatively quiet, and while the Picts colonize Iceland, so does Jutland, and thus the status quo is kept. The Cult of the Sacred Bull starts becoming popular in Kent.
The Khazaria-Novgorod war ends rather unspectacularly, with both sides ready for a sneak attack but neither launching one.
Novgorod sends some scholars to Tartessos, those that make it back are full of new, liberal, and advanced ideas about society, architecture, politics, military strategy, and almost all other fields. Novgorod gains a boost in education, and meanwhile Tartessian styles become all the rage in the cities, and a new fusion of Tartessian and Novgorodian architectural styles forms the new Neo-Orcadian architecture (OOC: Best described as, say, Byzantine or Gothic in our terms).
Khazaria, meanwhile, puts down an unpopular rebellion by the nobles with practically no losses and further strengthens the central government. Not all is well for the Khagan, though, the Sarmatians seem to be rising once again, and they look to be quite powerful. Raids have started once again on the Great Wall.
South of the rebuilding states, Persia is invaded by four states. However, no battles were fought; the Persian king Darius III decided to retreat from these attacks and has fortified his position, which means gains by any of the invaders will be hard to make. One area in this line has been breached, though, by the rising star of a half Avar, half Mongol general. Known variously as Timur the Avar, Timur the Lame, and to his terrified opponents, Tamerlane. His men easily seized the city of Qar, fortifications and all in an easy blow. Though he is a great general, he also has great political ambitions, and some men close to the Khan have said that he should be killed before he feels strong enough to challenge the Khan himself.
Gujarat, in the meantime, hears tremors of rebellion from its now rather disenfranchised Abyssian lands. They are not too happy at the government virtually residing in Gujarat.
The Chinese Alliance and the Mongols barely even fight at all, as both try to draw their enemies away from their positions, and neither actively attack. The front line seems to be frozen solid, though both sides did seize a little land.
The Koreans encounter the Yayoi culture of Japan, of which little is known about, yet, and as if in imitation, the Chinese sail southward, discovering Taiwan, Vietnam, and the far eastern colonies of Kush.
Southeast Asia sees massive state formation, as the Viets gain all sorts of gifts from the Chinese and they fall in love with Chinese civilization. However, they adopt Hinduism. The various other states seem mainly to be clones of Vietnam, but they all have their own distinct and rich cultures.
The Indian ocean is a new massive area of exploration and discovery, as the Arabs sail through the North of it, skirting Java and finding a new continent. This continent has a rich coast, much like the coast of Oman, far back home, but like Oman, the inland is bone dry.
The same continent is found by Gujarati explorers, who sail through the south of the Indian ocean. They have both colonized this land, and they both have tiny island stepping stones as well. Meanwhile, the Gujarati have supposedly found another continent, far to the south, with massive cliffs of ice ringing it, but many doubt that it exists at all. Those sailors still have their tales, though.
Spotlight: The End of the World?
It started in the capital of Wei. The city was closed, fearing a usual Mongol attack, but worse came than that. A few men, healthy the one day, then with a horrible disease the next. By the third day, they always died, black splotches appearing all over their body. Then it spread. And spread. Until the city was ravaged by a plague. They called it the Black Death, and it had already left the city by the time anyone had thought to put a quarantine in.
This evil was loosed upon the world, and many see it as a sign that it is all ending. War has come. Famine has come. And now Pestilence. Shall Death be next?
PRICES:
For each economy:
300 Iron Age spearmen
300 Iron Age swordsmen
300 Iron Age archers
300 Iron Age Light Horse
300 Iron Age Horse Archers
150 Iron Age Cataphracts
300 Iron Age UUs
30 Iron Age Chariots
30 Iron Age Triremes
15 catapults
30 War Elephants (available only to nations with direct land connections from their capital to North African or Indian Territory)
150 Camel Riders (available only to nations with North African or Arabian Territory)
150 Steppe Cavalry (available only to nations with steppe ancestry or territory on the steppes)
400 Classical Age spearmen
400 Classical Age swordsmen
400 Classical Age archers
400 Classical Age Light Horse
400 Classical Age Horse Archers
200 Classical Age Cataphracts
400 Classical Age UUs
40 Classical Age Chariots
40 Classical Age Quinqiremes
Any other stat growth: 1
DIPLO:
To: Tartessos
From: Rhodes
We ask for a white peace. No land exchanged, no gold, no limits on development.
OOC: Ran out of steam near the end. If youre lucky I might give you some eye candy next time, but Im too lazy to, this time. Im still going to update categories for all the nations plus the Mosts. Oh, and BananaLee will get his new nation next update.
The day dawned gray, cold, and bleak over the fields of Lyons. Thousands of dead lay there. Thousands had been killed, all for the glory of an Empire. Men from all over. Berber. Iberian. Celtic. German. Malian. All lay there. Killed on this field of valor, of glory, of sorrow.
The field stank of putrid flesh. The sun crept over the horizon, nearly blood-red rays pouring over the Rhone River valley in a cascade of light, illuminating the piles of corpses, replete in macabre majesty. It had been an incredible battle.
The Tartessians had been determined to not repeat the same mistake they had made at Cremona, yet alas, their sheer numbers and deployment made for a rather confusing pitch. Their cavalry came almost at noontime due to disorganization, but eventually managed to sort things out enough to approach the Gauls. The Berbers and Numudians easily crushed the enemy light cavalry, but their subsequent withdrawal to let the Contrarius forward led to massive confusion. Shouts in about five to a dozen different languages were being hurled in every direction, and the movement barely got going at all; the cavalry were weighed down by the language barrier, and inefficient structuring.
The infantry advanced regardless, and a great attack of allied spearmen met the Gallic spears in the middle of the battlefield, but the archers on the Tartessian side were somewhat negated by their Gallic counterparts, who had learned well from their wars with the Tartessians long ago; they too used the showering volleys of arrows to decimate the enemy.
The infantry clash ruined the center of both armies, but the final crushing blow was when the flying wing of cavalry was able to skirt the battlefield and smash the gallic infantry from behind. Only a few Gauls made it out alive.
But of course, this was not the only theater that the Tartessians fought in.
Far off, to the West, in the great dividing sea called the Mediterranean, the Tartessians attempt an assault on Rhodes. They advance with their Hittite, Trojan, and Theban allies on Southern Anatolia. Anticipating a big fight, the great assembled army marches slowly. But they find nothing. They find the forts abandoned and derelict, they find the cities huddled shadows of their former self, much of the population gone.
The Rhodians had avoided them.
Not to be deterred, the Tartessians launched their naval assault. They drew up a massive fleet, over a hundred warships, but the Rhodians also had over a hundred warships. The fleets met at the coast of Rhodes.
The Rhodian fleet drew up in a sort of crescent formation, one tip clinging to the harbor entrance, the other tip a flying wing on the left. The Tartessian allied fleet sailed to meet them, but their strategy was hampered by the fact that Carthages ships were mysteriously absent (it was only known later that the Carthaginians had ironically used pirates to escort their new Greek guests over to the homeland.
Thus, without their key mobile arm of the navy, the fleet was much smaller than expected. It was still massive, though, and they were quite ready to engage the Rhodes fleet. The Carthaginian Quinqiremes leading the hammer blow to the center, triremes behind, the allied fleet sailed forward, intending to crush them with superior experience, and weaponry.
But they did not.
We will fight in the sea, we will fight in the harbor, we will fight in the city, we will fight in hell. Rhodes will never succumb to Tartessos as long as I live declared the Rhodes admiral right before the battle. His men were encouraged by this, and they rowed eagerly into battle, crying Helios watches over us!.
This seemed eerily true to the allied fleet, whose rowing grew timid as they entered the shadow of the brazen giant of the Colossus of Rhodes, newly completed. It gleamed in the sun, and its crowned head gazed over the area as though it really did watch over the Rhodes fleet.
The Tartessians still seemed to prevail initially, though. But the turning point came, perhaps as a ruse, perhaps as a simple mistake of logistics, when the Tartessians pushed the enemy past the entrance to the harbor, whereupon about 30 triremes hidden in the harbor darted out and plowed through the flank of the Tartessian fleet. The Tartessians were crushed, and the allied fleet was sent limping home. The Rhodes fleet was battered as well, but their people are ready enough for any fight.
Then there were the Ashanti.
The Tartessian creme de la creme, the ultimate in shock troops had come several thousand miles to the south of their well known homes into unknown territory. They told the Malians to begin diversionary raids, which they carried out with half a heart, but were defeated by the Ashanti. Then the Tartessians, impatient, started the real assault. The shock was immense.
They traveled not even a mile from the coast before they realized how immense the problem of fighting the Ashanti was. The rainforest was no place for metal cuirasses and breastplates, and their rations got soaked an rotted within a day. They could barely set out before some other calamity happened upon them. Men desperately trudged forward, not sure wether they would die in the next few minutes, or not.
They were constantly harried by Ashanti raids, arrows plunging into their horses without warning. They had to slap constantly at mosquitoes, and many fell sick with high fevers.
When they finally met the Ashanti army, their numbers had already been thinned, their armor and helmets long packed away, they were no longer anything like the proud, organized force they had once been. Alas, forward they marched, nonetheless.
Right into a perfectly laid ambush.
With Ashanti spearmen, swordsmen, and cavalry crashing in from all sides, the Tartessian cavalry were trapped in the midst of a massive pincer. The only man to salvage the day was a formerly low ranking officer, Gaius Marius, who, near the rear of the cavalry vanguard, wheeled about and galloped at the infantry. He began to shout of the war god, and how he favored this battle. And quite picturesquely, he turned once again, raised his sword, then swung it to point at the foes. A massive infantry charge barely broke the encircling ring, enough so that a few of the Contrarius actually made it back.
Tartessos also had a new hero.
Back in Tartessos proper, research into new building materials goes OK, but reveals nothing much new. New fleets try to expand colonization in the new world, but these do not go all that well; it becomes clear that while a madman, Praxitilles was the best navigator of his time. Many ships in the new fleets are lost to storms, while the attempts at settlement are plagued with new diseases and raids by some of the more hostile tribes, and fail to develop into any permanent thing.
But one bright spot does shine. The rising star of Gaius Marius, the greatest general of Tartessos, singlehandedly responsible for stopping utter disaster in Ashanti territory.
Far to the north of all this, the Northern-Baltic seas area is relatively quiet, and while the Picts colonize Iceland, so does Jutland, and thus the status quo is kept. The Cult of the Sacred Bull starts becoming popular in Kent.
The Khazaria-Novgorod war ends rather unspectacularly, with both sides ready for a sneak attack but neither launching one.
Novgorod sends some scholars to Tartessos, those that make it back are full of new, liberal, and advanced ideas about society, architecture, politics, military strategy, and almost all other fields. Novgorod gains a boost in education, and meanwhile Tartessian styles become all the rage in the cities, and a new fusion of Tartessian and Novgorodian architectural styles forms the new Neo-Orcadian architecture (OOC: Best described as, say, Byzantine or Gothic in our terms).
Khazaria, meanwhile, puts down an unpopular rebellion by the nobles with practically no losses and further strengthens the central government. Not all is well for the Khagan, though, the Sarmatians seem to be rising once again, and they look to be quite powerful. Raids have started once again on the Great Wall.
South of the rebuilding states, Persia is invaded by four states. However, no battles were fought; the Persian king Darius III decided to retreat from these attacks and has fortified his position, which means gains by any of the invaders will be hard to make. One area in this line has been breached, though, by the rising star of a half Avar, half Mongol general. Known variously as Timur the Avar, Timur the Lame, and to his terrified opponents, Tamerlane. His men easily seized the city of Qar, fortifications and all in an easy blow. Though he is a great general, he also has great political ambitions, and some men close to the Khan have said that he should be killed before he feels strong enough to challenge the Khan himself.
Gujarat, in the meantime, hears tremors of rebellion from its now rather disenfranchised Abyssian lands. They are not too happy at the government virtually residing in Gujarat.
The Chinese Alliance and the Mongols barely even fight at all, as both try to draw their enemies away from their positions, and neither actively attack. The front line seems to be frozen solid, though both sides did seize a little land.
The Koreans encounter the Yayoi culture of Japan, of which little is known about, yet, and as if in imitation, the Chinese sail southward, discovering Taiwan, Vietnam, and the far eastern colonies of Kush.
Southeast Asia sees massive state formation, as the Viets gain all sorts of gifts from the Chinese and they fall in love with Chinese civilization. However, they adopt Hinduism. The various other states seem mainly to be clones of Vietnam, but they all have their own distinct and rich cultures.
The Indian ocean is a new massive area of exploration and discovery, as the Arabs sail through the North of it, skirting Java and finding a new continent. This continent has a rich coast, much like the coast of Oman, far back home, but like Oman, the inland is bone dry.
The same continent is found by Gujarati explorers, who sail through the south of the Indian ocean. They have both colonized this land, and they both have tiny island stepping stones as well. Meanwhile, the Gujarati have supposedly found another continent, far to the south, with massive cliffs of ice ringing it, but many doubt that it exists at all. Those sailors still have their tales, though.
Spotlight: The End of the World?
It started in the capital of Wei. The city was closed, fearing a usual Mongol attack, but worse came than that. A few men, healthy the one day, then with a horrible disease the next. By the third day, they always died, black splotches appearing all over their body. Then it spread. And spread. Until the city was ravaged by a plague. They called it the Black Death, and it had already left the city by the time anyone had thought to put a quarantine in.
This evil was loosed upon the world, and many see it as a sign that it is all ending. War has come. Famine has come. And now Pestilence. Shall Death be next?
PRICES:
For each economy:
300 Iron Age spearmen
300 Iron Age swordsmen
300 Iron Age archers
300 Iron Age Light Horse
300 Iron Age Horse Archers
150 Iron Age Cataphracts
300 Iron Age UUs
30 Iron Age Chariots
30 Iron Age Triremes
15 catapults
30 War Elephants (available only to nations with direct land connections from their capital to North African or Indian Territory)
150 Camel Riders (available only to nations with North African or Arabian Territory)
150 Steppe Cavalry (available only to nations with steppe ancestry or territory on the steppes)
400 Classical Age spearmen
400 Classical Age swordsmen
400 Classical Age archers
400 Classical Age Light Horse
400 Classical Age Horse Archers
200 Classical Age Cataphracts
400 Classical Age UUs
40 Classical Age Chariots
40 Classical Age Quinqiremes
Any other stat growth: 1
DIPLO:
To: Tartessos
From: Rhodes
We ask for a white peace. No land exchanged, no gold, no limits on development.
OOC: Ran out of steam near the end. If youre lucky I might give you some eye candy next time, but Im too lazy to, this time. Im still going to update categories for all the nations plus the Mosts. Oh, and BananaLee will get his new nation next update.
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Hmm... The thread is going wierd on me, so no front page map. As usual, I forgot something...
Egypt's canal goes well.
Later I might do a city glorification if I have time.
Egypt's canal goes well.
Later I might do a city glorification if I have time.
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OK, I have to go through the religion stat for all nations, and also alex, 1/3 of your farms were burnt by mongol spies.
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Good, good. You still have my orders.
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emu said:
The Garamantes.
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LOL. will do.
The Reorginization, and re-equipping of the Tartessian military; an high priorty, and secret address to the Imperial Senate
By Gaius Marius
Back from the recent disaster in the southern lands, hearing recounts that orders wer enot followed by admirals in teh east (no battle, i reming all readers, was supposed to occure at sea, and if it was, it wa snot to be in any sort of terms that the Rhodians would find benifit from, such as in thier own waters near thier harbor), and hearing of the difficulties involved with the gallic war, I, as current Primarch of the southern command, have devoted my free time to study of militaria from various nations,ranging from tartessos to the most sketchy of tactical accounts from the legendary battles of Cathay (one will note, how in centuries past, an explorer who went thie rrecords he witnessed a battle, and gives a rather clear detial of it- this has all been taken into account) and have been writing this accord for some time- the Tartessian military is in drastic need of a reorginization, and refitting of its forces.
Point A- Standardize all -common- commands and military
-The gallic campaign illustrates well the drastic need for a new, effective standardized form of military language. Th epurpose is so that, after tought, troops from any corner of the nation- and any allied, or mercenary contingents- can communicate, at least military orders, in the same language, and the same dialect. Obviouslly, the language and dialect best suited for this prupose is Tartessian- most people know at least some phrases because of the wide spread that tartessian merchants, armies, and, more commonlly, theologians, have had accross the world.
Our own troops will benifit. because standarized tersm and phrases would be used for the same orders, empire wide. Troops entering Auxilliary service, such the Numidians and berbers, or as allied contigents, such as the Tyrehnians would now understand all battle commands, as they would be taught at the begining of the campaign, before the troops even move out, what means what
Point B- accurate intelligence
The disaster in the ashanti lands, and the disaster at Rhodes were due to either faulty- or, as is the case is almost assured, virtually no intellegence being gathered before hand, to tell our forces what to expect, and how to handle it.
From now on, all deployed elemts of the tartessian army, or allied aspects thier of, are to have several scouts deployed with them- light cavalry being ideal for this purpose on land, Triremes, even if they are bronze age ships, being ideal for the purpose by sea-
The benifit is that prior scouting, on a wide front, will give troops and commanders an idea of what to expect, and how best to deal with it- scouting of any calliber could have easilly prevented the Ashanti incident.
Point C- Improved Logistical Support
In the South lands, our troops were impeeded by faulty equpiment, and impeeded further by materials and rations not suitable for the area- new forsm fo logistical support are thierfore required for our troops to carry out thier missions to fullest capability, such support woudl include-
- retrofitting troops armour and weapons to best suit the location and climate
-finding out what local resources are, and workign around them to best have a logistical base of supply, dependent NOT on drawn out lines of supply, but on local matertials
-Finding out what local diseases are, and what the local remidies for them are, and stokcing up on such remidies such as local roots, and other assorted medicines and elixers
-Finding out what local natural food are, such as fruits and animals, and utlizing them as the food source of the army- but having back up supplies just in case
-more cordination between aspect sof the army, so that ALL forces act in concert with each other
Point D- establish specialized forces to deal with particuler situations, but have standard troops that proove superb in every situation
How might this be accomplised? the secret to this is trianing, and equipment- training is easy enough- with a expansive territory such as ours, troosp can be shipped off to trian in every enviroment known to man, and in every season- Giving the "reguler" troops oftartessos a foot above every oppoent, by beign able to deal with that oppoent as if our troops called whatever grounds they were fighting on home, and with familiarity
Equipment, on the other hand, is harder to say- but, after reserch and investigation, thier are several new designs of armour that can be put to use- the armour being the main differentization between the types of specialized troops
-Tartessian Heavy Cuirass-
Theaters of Combat- Europe, Asia Minor, Med Sea basin, North Africa, Asia Proper
Description-
I have spent many a night, going over troopers wants for armour, pourin gover blacksmiths notes, making diagrams, and a hos tof other activities- the result, is this armor- made of over lapping plates, it means that in any particuler place, thier is no single sheet of metal protectign the body, expt as the very bottom edge of the cuirass- meanign that the soldire has the effec tof at least 2- often 3, or even 4 sheet of metal protecting him- the armor is superior to anyother on earth, even the near mythic scale armor of the Novgorodians-it shoudl eb noted, a combined form of this armour, with scale, woudl make for a more comfortbale fit on cavalry troops, such as the contarius
-Tartessian Light Cuirass-
Theaters of Combat- Sub-Equatorial Africa,Sahara Desert, the New World, Marine Landings- and on all orders of light infantry, and cavalry
Description- The other part of my armor studies led me to this concept of armor, a lighter- but still incredilly durbale boiled leather cuirass- boiled lether, beign a strong as some metals, and having much ductile stregth, is superb for fighting such troops as posed by both the Africans, and the New Worlds, as descritons have come- more importantlly, the design fo armour is cheap, and much better suited to the enviroments listed then the other new form of armor, shown above- the only possible expection may be troops such as the Contarious, whom woudl utlize scale armor
-Tartesian Helm-
To be used by all troops, regardless of location, or classifacation
Description- The helmet as well has coem under the scope of my gaze- the old helmets, while styklish near maskers of the entire face, save for the eye, and a vertical slit down the front, while intimidateing, are simple of no further use for our military- intead, a new form of unrestircting helmet is fashioned- allowing for freedom of the senses, but maximum protection- a perfect balence, the helemt is opwn enough to be utilized on all fronts, regarldess of weather, or terrian
-Tartessian Sheild-
used on all theaters- a flat, oval type is also avialible, if the situation calls for it
Description- a sheild that covers form the shulder to ankle, the uses are obvious- this type of sheild has been in use for a while , but this is a fully refined version- not mad eof just wood, but of layer sof woord, glued together, with layers of boiled lether, and a rim of iron all around- it is of superios stregth then the simple wooden, or metal sheilds of our opponents
-Tartessian Greaves-
Soldiers choice- can be utilized on any front successfully
Description-[/i]an improvment over the leg armor of other nations, it features a hinged knee joint, giving much added prtection to so vital an area of the leg[/i]
and that is just the defensive equipment! anothe r list is entirelly require dfo the offenzive weapons i have designed- I will not lis tin detial, but in name- a longer pike, that is of such legth, that no sheild is needed for protection, an advanced form of javlin- that cannot be returned by the enemy, yet is strong enough to use as a traditional spear, an advanced form or swoards, tow of them, a short sword, calle d agladius, and a longer sword, called a spatha, a dagger, brutilly efficent at goreing, called a "pugio"
Point E-Establish friendlly contacts with the natives
this point- whiel not strictlyl needed- is much desired, as support form the local populace is of a great boon to our military efforts- progrmas shoudl eb under taken, in future war efforts, to gain the respect, and even the friendship of the oppositions citizenry
Tartessian Soldires, following the equpment of my design, meet friendlly barbarians, and proceed to civilize them, to the enjoyment of all
Following these- amoungst other recomendations, the tartessian army, will, undoubtlly becoem the most effectiv emilitary force ever seen- capable of operating, unhindered, in any terrians that the Gods have put on the earth. May the sacred bull bless you all, and may he smile upon the blessed state of Tartessos, I close my diologue.
By Gaius Marius
Back from the recent disaster in the southern lands, hearing recounts that orders wer enot followed by admirals in teh east (no battle, i reming all readers, was supposed to occure at sea, and if it was, it wa snot to be in any sort of terms that the Rhodians would find benifit from, such as in thier own waters near thier harbor), and hearing of the difficulties involved with the gallic war, I, as current Primarch of the southern command, have devoted my free time to study of militaria from various nations,ranging from tartessos to the most sketchy of tactical accounts from the legendary battles of Cathay (one will note, how in centuries past, an explorer who went thie rrecords he witnessed a battle, and gives a rather clear detial of it- this has all been taken into account) and have been writing this accord for some time- the Tartessian military is in drastic need of a reorginization, and refitting of its forces.
Point A- Standardize all -common- commands and military
-The gallic campaign illustrates well the drastic need for a new, effective standardized form of military language. Th epurpose is so that, after tought, troops from any corner of the nation- and any allied, or mercenary contingents- can communicate, at least military orders, in the same language, and the same dialect. Obviouslly, the language and dialect best suited for this prupose is Tartessian- most people know at least some phrases because of the wide spread that tartessian merchants, armies, and, more commonlly, theologians, have had accross the world.
Our own troops will benifit. because standarized tersm and phrases would be used for the same orders, empire wide. Troops entering Auxilliary service, such the Numidians and berbers, or as allied contigents, such as the Tyrehnians would now understand all battle commands, as they would be taught at the begining of the campaign, before the troops even move out, what means what
Point B- accurate intelligence
The disaster in the ashanti lands, and the disaster at Rhodes were due to either faulty- or, as is the case is almost assured, virtually no intellegence being gathered before hand, to tell our forces what to expect, and how to handle it.
From now on, all deployed elemts of the tartessian army, or allied aspects thier of, are to have several scouts deployed with them- light cavalry being ideal for this purpose on land, Triremes, even if they are bronze age ships, being ideal for the purpose by sea-
The benifit is that prior scouting, on a wide front, will give troops and commanders an idea of what to expect, and how best to deal with it- scouting of any calliber could have easilly prevented the Ashanti incident.
Point C- Improved Logistical Support
In the South lands, our troops were impeeded by faulty equpiment, and impeeded further by materials and rations not suitable for the area- new forsm fo logistical support are thierfore required for our troops to carry out thier missions to fullest capability, such support woudl include-
- retrofitting troops armour and weapons to best suit the location and climate
-finding out what local resources are, and workign around them to best have a logistical base of supply, dependent NOT on drawn out lines of supply, but on local matertials
-Finding out what local diseases are, and what the local remidies for them are, and stokcing up on such remidies such as local roots, and other assorted medicines and elixers
-Finding out what local natural food are, such as fruits and animals, and utlizing them as the food source of the army- but having back up supplies just in case
-more cordination between aspect sof the army, so that ALL forces act in concert with each other
Point D- establish specialized forces to deal with particuler situations, but have standard troops that proove superb in every situation
How might this be accomplised? the secret to this is trianing, and equipment- training is easy enough- with a expansive territory such as ours, troosp can be shipped off to trian in every enviroment known to man, and in every season- Giving the "reguler" troops oftartessos a foot above every oppoent, by beign able to deal with that oppoent as if our troops called whatever grounds they were fighting on home, and with familiarity
Equipment, on the other hand, is harder to say- but, after reserch and investigation, thier are several new designs of armour that can be put to use- the armour being the main differentization between the types of specialized troops
-Tartessian Heavy Cuirass-
Theaters of Combat- Europe, Asia Minor, Med Sea basin, North Africa, Asia Proper
Description-
I have spent many a night, going over troopers wants for armour, pourin gover blacksmiths notes, making diagrams, and a hos tof other activities- the result, is this armor- made of over lapping plates, it means that in any particuler place, thier is no single sheet of metal protectign the body, expt as the very bottom edge of the cuirass- meanign that the soldire has the effec tof at least 2- often 3, or even 4 sheet of metal protecting him- the armor is superior to anyother on earth, even the near mythic scale armor of the Novgorodians-it shoudl eb noted, a combined form of this armour, with scale, woudl make for a more comfortbale fit on cavalry troops, such as the contarius
-Tartessian Light Cuirass-
Theaters of Combat- Sub-Equatorial Africa,Sahara Desert, the New World, Marine Landings- and on all orders of light infantry, and cavalry
Description- The other part of my armor studies led me to this concept of armor, a lighter- but still incredilly durbale boiled leather cuirass- boiled lether, beign a strong as some metals, and having much ductile stregth, is superb for fighting such troops as posed by both the Africans, and the New Worlds, as descritons have come- more importantlly, the design fo armour is cheap, and much better suited to the enviroments listed then the other new form of armor, shown above- the only possible expection may be troops such as the Contarious, whom woudl utlize scale armor
-Tartesian Helm-
To be used by all troops, regardless of location, or classifacation
Description- The helmet as well has coem under the scope of my gaze- the old helmets, while styklish near maskers of the entire face, save for the eye, and a vertical slit down the front, while intimidateing, are simple of no further use for our military- intead, a new form of unrestircting helmet is fashioned- allowing for freedom of the senses, but maximum protection- a perfect balence, the helemt is opwn enough to be utilized on all fronts, regarldess of weather, or terrian
-Tartessian Sheild-
used on all theaters- a flat, oval type is also avialible, if the situation calls for it
Description- a sheild that covers form the shulder to ankle, the uses are obvious- this type of sheild has been in use for a while , but this is a fully refined version- not mad eof just wood, but of layer sof woord, glued together, with layers of boiled lether, and a rim of iron all around- it is of superios stregth then the simple wooden, or metal sheilds of our opponents
-Tartessian Greaves-
Soldiers choice- can be utilized on any front successfully
Description-[/i]an improvment over the leg armor of other nations, it features a hinged knee joint, giving much added prtection to so vital an area of the leg[/i]
and that is just the defensive equipment! anothe r list is entirelly require dfo the offenzive weapons i have designed- I will not lis tin detial, but in name- a longer pike, that is of such legth, that no sheild is needed for protection, an advanced form of javlin- that cannot be returned by the enemy, yet is strong enough to use as a traditional spear, an advanced form or swoards, tow of them, a short sword, calle d agladius, and a longer sword, called a spatha, a dagger, brutilly efficent at goreing, called a "pugio"
Point E-Establish friendlly contacts with the natives
this point- whiel not strictlyl needed- is much desired, as support form the local populace is of a great boon to our military efforts- progrmas shoudl eb under taken, in future war efforts, to gain the respect, and even the friendship of the oppositions citizenry
Tartessian Soldires, following the equpment of my design, meet friendlly barbarians, and proceed to civilize them, to the enjoyment of all
Following these- amoungst other recomendations, the tartessian army, will, undoubtlly becoem the most effectiv emilitary force ever seen- capable of operating, unhindered, in any terrians that the Gods have put on the earth. May the sacred bull bless you all, and may he smile upon the blessed state of Tartessos, I close my diologue.
Insane_Panda
Deity
OOC: Wouldn't drums and signals serve as better battle commands than a voice, so that if someone does not understand tartessian (Although most, if not all, will)?
Otherwise - Nice story, and nice pic
Otherwise - Nice story, and nice pic
in a world in which most armied sue drums to standardize troops movements, drums would be confusing- besides, giving lessons in tartessian language help estbalish my language as a trade language, and i suppose you have yet to hear how officers can bellow orders
Insane_Panda
Deity
Speaking of languages, what is the Gujarat language, Is it a mix of Arabic and Hindu? I've never been specific on this topic, but I realise that I need a standard language, as I control land all the way in australia and madagascar!
BananaLee
Fruity Penguin
It's called Gujerati in real life.
A mix of Arabic, Punjabi and Swahilli.
The real Gujeratis immigrated from the Horn of Africa and Ethiopia..
A mix of Arabic, Punjabi and Swahilli.
The real Gujeratis immigrated from the Horn of Africa and Ethiopia..
erez87
Lord of Random
OOC Was that a redo or a new update?? IF a new why my orders weren't counted? (espaialy expansion ones)
das
Regeneration In Process
That was a redo, erez.
