Turn Chat 1315 AD (June 12)

Turn chat 1270 AD (June 9)

The next turn chat is scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:59 pm (Greenwich time) which is 6:59 pm east coast US time.

Save game: phoenatica1315ad.zip

Turn chat 1340 AD (June 16)

We have entered the industrial age! We have been working to boost the productivity of our 'core' cities and have begun construction of a national railroad network. We are still vying for a technology lead as we race the other countries to build Hoover Dam, formulate the theory of evolution and grant universal suffrage. The first phase in the modernization of our military is basically complete as we look to the military department for guidance in phase two.

Please do not use this as a discussion thread! Leaders and governors should now be posting their turn chat instructions here![/COLOR

Instructions from the President's office:

Continue building railroad network.
Implement any redployments per military department.
Trade deals will expire during this turn chat!

Cultural Recommendations:

Valhall needs a cathedral. Even if it switchs immediately, it will enter disorder before the cathedral is built.
Memphis could really use both a cathedral and a university after its marketplace is built.
New York has a scientist for no obvious reason.

Also, I think a couple places that didn't need courthouses ended up building them, btw.

Building Queues

PDX: Universal Suffrage[c]/Factory
Pherris: military acadamy[c]
New falcons heaven: Cathedral[c] /harbor
Shailonegha: Cavalry[c]/ Catheadral
Port Gisnod:temple [c]/ barracks/Factory
Miami: Barracks[c]/ Catheadral
Boston: marketplace[c]
Valhall: Cavalry[c]/ Cathedral
Chicago: temple[c]/ marketplace

[c]= Current

As of now, the building queues are:

Cyrus - granary, university, aqueduct, marketplace
Heliopolis - university, granary, cathedral
Alexandria - university, marketplace, granary

These may change, who knows. Whatever is listed at the time of the chat is good.

In Heliopolis, there should be no entertainers. Everyone works this time. 5 on mountains, 2 on grassland, and the last 4 on irrigated desert/flood plain.

Cyrus and Alexandria are fine. No changes needed.

I found the President's message about putting tracks on an irrigated plain by Cyrus. This is good. Any development we can focus on that will give Cyrus some more food is greatly appreciated.

On a side note, the Grecian troops walking through Kashmir are not really a problem for me. They are surely spending gold on something. We are at peace and have an ROP with them, so I might as well make some profit from this.

Domestic Department

Science: 70%
Taxes: 30%

Workers around PDX should be set in groups that finish a rail in 1-2 turns. Each time a rail is finished the workers in the city should be optimized.

The workers built in Chondote should immediately be sent to Thebes, and then given orders to build a railroad to PDX.

The Province of Istar

Fox's Nest: Factory, colloseum
Eyr: Cathedral, Factory
Khatovar: Rifleman, Factory
Malinalco: Factory (switch immediately from cavalry
Asyut: worker, aqueduct
Lutetia: cathedral(c), granary
Chie: rifleman, rifleman, rifleman

Chondote: worker, worker, worker

244 gold to rush a factory in Civinatoria.

All extra gold above 1000 should be spent on military upgrades.

I have received no other requests for gold as of yet.

Turn 0
Babylon
Renegotiate peace for max gold. 80 was the most I could get.

Rome
Gift them with the highest results of this poll:
Pleasing Rome

I wish to make them polite. Let the highest voting item be gifted first. If they become polite, gift no more. If they are less than polite, use the runner-up in the poll to gift next. If there is are ties, use spot votes to break them. Do not gift more than twice.

Chieftess has approved this deal. So, if the Trade Dept does not post instructions, I wish to make these deals. If the Trade Dept does make instructions, ignore these:
Zulu:
Electricity, 25 gold
for our Industrialization, Saltpeter, Incense

England:
Wines
for Spices, Chemistry

Turn 0

India - End Gems deal

Zulus
Electricty --> Saltpeter (or 276 gold upfront), Indust., Incense

England (not sure we should trade these. Vote needed).

Wines --> Spices, Navigation, Chemistry, World Map

Turn 1

Rome - End Horses deal and renegotiate

Turn 5

Greece - Renegotiate Ivory deal (if they ask)
Zulus - Renegotiate Spice deal (if they ask)

Turn 6

India - Renegotiate Ivory deal (if they ask)

End of turn 0 save: phoenatica1315end.zip

End of turn 5 save: phoenatica1340ad.zip

Turn Chat Log.

last save: phoenatica1340ad.zip

Greece declared war on the Iroquois! It did not take long for most of the Greek forces in Kashmir to enter Iroquois territory. Most of the fighting was done around Oka. The Greeks lost 5 riflemen and 5 swordmen in the final assualt that captured the city. There was also a pitched battle between Iroquois and Greek riflemen inside Ashpinxia! India entered the war on the side of Greece and they soon lost Hierconpolis to the Iroquois. The war rages on but most foreign units have left our borders.

On the home front the domestic department authorized the quick completion of a factory in Civanatoria and a great ironworks project is now underway in that city. We renegotiated peace with Babylon for 80 gold, and cancelled our gem imports to Hiawatha. In return for incense, saltpeter and plans for our new factories Shaka showed us how to use electricity! We reopened the wine route to England. We sent Elizabeth some spices and taught her the secrets of navigation so she can safely leave her island! We gave Ceasor ivory and he is now polite.
A university was rushed in Cyrus in 1315. Many other cities built improvements as listed below. We continued our military upgrades starting with our catapults. About a half dozen pikemen have been upgraded. Universal suffrage will be complete in PDX in 8 turns. Work on our national railway network progressed nicely as several small railroads began operations.
We mastered the secrets of medicine and began work on a new method for making scientific investigations. At this point it was suggested that medicine be sold. Some agreed, some did not and another called for a forum discussion on the matter. The latter minority view prevailed and it is the president's hope that our energies will be spent on deciding a comprehensive plan for building our wonders rather than on investigations.

1315 AD turn chat notes (June 12)

start: 1315 AD, 1303 gold, +89 g/t, med in 3

submitted build queus done (Normandy, Kashmir, Istar and Chondote)
other cities that will complete builds have next build already queued up
Rushed factory in civanatoria (244 gold) per domestic instructions
Renegotiated peace with Babylon - we get 80 gold - per FA instructions
Gems deal with Iroquois ended per trade instrustions
Electricty --> Saltpeter, Indust., Incense Zulu trade
catapult upgraded for 40 gold
traded spice, navigation and WM to England for wine
gave ivory to Rome and Ceasar is polite
Cyrus changed to university per spot vote

1315 AD, 1099 gold, +85 g/t, med in 3 turns, end of turn 0

Greece declares war on Iroquois
3 Greek riflemen and a swordman die trying to tkae Oka - Greeks capture slaves
Greeks continue to cross our borders and Iroquois are now near Abydos
Babylon wanted to trade maps and we refused
many WLTK days!
Civanatoria builds factory and starrts granary
Miami builds barracks and starts cathedral
Chie recruits rifleman, goes for another
India declares war on the Iroquois!

1320 AD, 1184 gold, ,+81 g/t, med in 2 - turn 1
Civanatoria changed to ironworks on a spot vote
Horses deal with Rome is gone
Greeks take Oka but lose 5 rifles and 5 swords
Greek riflemen kill Iroquois rifle in our territory
Iroquois forces beating Indians near Heacopolis
Elephantine complete aqueduct and starts cathedral
Phil. finishes cathedral and starts settler
Port Gisnod completes temple and starts barracks
Asyut recruits worker for NEP and starts aqueduct
Zulu building universal suffrage

1325 AD, 1265 gold, +74 g/t, med in 1 turn - turn 2
University in Cyrus rushed for 208 gold
catapult upgraded for 40 gold
Abydos & Memphis RR opens
PDX & Phila. RR opens
1325 AD, 1017 gold, ,+375 g/t, ,med next turn - end of turn 2

we learn medicine and research scientific method
Cyrus builds university and starts granary
Sci rate reset to 70%

1330 AD, 1392 gold, +75 g/t, sci meth in 6 turns, turn 3
3 pikemen upgraded for 300 gold
Justinian & Macao RR opens
San Fran & Seattle RR opens
Fox Nest and Eyr RR opens (once)
1330 AD, ,1092 gold, +75 g/t, sci meth in 6, ,end of turn 3

Anyang build temple and starts harbor

1335 AD, 1167 gold, +74 g/t, sci meth in 5, turn 4
pikeman upgraded for 100 gold
1335 AD, 1067 gold, +74 g/t, scimeth in 5 - end of turn 4

Valhall recruits cavalry and starts cathedral
Phila. recruits settler and starts worker
Chicago builds temple and starts market
Macao builds barracks and starts cavalry

1340 AD, 1141 gold, +68 g/t, sci meth in 4, turn 5
Iroquois have Hieroconpolis
upgraded a pikeman for 100 gold
Valhall & Atlanta RR opens
Thebes & Heliopolis RR opens
1340 AD, 1041 gold, +148 g/t, sci meth in 4 turns, end of turn 5

after an hour of debating:
the president decided to stop