Term 4 - Judiciary: The 4th Time is the Charm

This is the official office of the Judiciary for Term 4.

Our task is to uphold the Constitution and its supporting laws in a fair and impartial manner as prescribed by law.

The Laws of Fanatica
Judicial Log

This court is comprised of:

Chief Justice: zorven
Associate Justice: Vander
Associate Justice: DaveShack

If you are interested in serving on the Judiciary this term, contact our President for an appointment to the bench.

Official Census of Fanatica: 19

I believe these are all the open cases from prior terms. If you notice one missing, or one on the list that has already been closed, please let me know.

Open Cases:

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T2-JR11-Legality of Election Reform poll
as requested by donsig

Link to discussion
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T2-JR12-May deputies play the save
as requested by zorven

Link to discussion
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T2-CC#4-vsChieftess
as requested by zorven
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T2-CC2-Citizen's Complaint against Rik Meleet
As requested by donsig
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T3-JR1 - Under Article D.1 does the Ministry of Internal Affairs have the authority to discuss, poll and order the change of government for Fanatica?
As requested by Ravensfire

Link to Discussion Thread
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Closed Cases:
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Judicial Review - Term 4 - Request 1 - Ruling
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T3-JR3 - Amending CoS J 1 d - Passed Judicial Review, Poll is here
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Judicial Review - Term 4 - Request 2 - Passed Judicial Review - Poll is here
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T2-JR1-Special Elections - Ruling
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T2-JR9-May a leader post instruction prior to their term beginning? - Ruling
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I would like to request a judicial review to determine who should be handing down decisions on previously requested JRs that have not yet been finished.

[wipes off dusty old judicial robe] I have been appointed as an associate justice. How 'bout we get this thing going?

Originally posted by Vander
[wipes off dusty old judicial robe] I have been appointed as an associate justice. How 'bout we get this thing going?

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Do you know CPR?

This court accepts donsig's request for a Judicial Review. Specificially, donsig is questioning the legality of CoS M.1.d


This term's discussion can be found here.

Prior discussion on this issue can be found in this thread.

I think I'll resist the urge to call a JR on the legality of an incomplete court deciding a JR, at least for now.

I also find it questionable that this court can ignore a ruling by the previous court and thereby take up the exact same question for consideration.

Originally posted by DaveShack
I think I'll resist the urge to call a JR on the legality of an incomplete court deciding a JR, at least for now.

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Can you point to the law that says you need 3 members to rule on a case?

I also find it questionable that this court can ignore a ruling by the previous court and thereby take up the exact same question for consideration.

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As posted where you brought this up before, the post by Peri did not meet the criteria in CoS M.1.c.3:

Originally posted by zorven (but directed at DaveShack)


Can you point to the law that says you need 3 members to rule on a case?

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Better yet, can you get a third person to be in the judiciary in the first place?

Originally posted by Bootstoots
Better yet, can you get a third person to be in the judiciary in the first place?

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Well, I did my part by saying over in the Presidential thread that I'd be willing to serve if appointed.

Please conduct a Judicial Review of a Proposed Law on this proposal.

Remember to post in that thread that you are conducting a review and the text that you are reviewing.

Also, as the previous Judiciary did not do so, please conduct a review of the 1 race per citizen law. Sorry, I don't have a link immediately available.

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire

Originally posted by ravensfire
Please conduct a Judicial Review of a Proposed Law on this proposal.

Remember to post in that thread that you are conducting a review and the text that you are reviewing.

Also, as the previous Judiciary did not do so, please conduct a review of the 1 race per citizen law. Sorry, I don't have a link immediately available.

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire

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I'm still waiting on JR's that I filed in term one. Would the court please give the older cases priority? As a reminder, there are also a couple outstanding CCs to be completed.

donsig requested a Judicial Review questioning the legality of CoS M.1.d.2:


If CoS M.1.d.2 were followed, Judiciary members would serve an indeterminable term. It is not know how long they will serve until they finish the cases that were presented to them. It is possible that, given a case of sufficent magnitude, a Judicary could serve well beyond it's fixed date to end.

This presents a conflict with Article G of the Constitution which specifies that all elected positions shall have a fixed term. This court finds this Article to mean that a term's length is known and quantifiable at any time. Under CoS M.1.d.2, this is not the case.

Therefore, we find CoS M.1.d.2 to be in violation of the Constitution and thus null and void.

This ruling was supported by a 2-0 vote of Justices zorven and Vander.

edited reference to CoS section to be more accurate.

Originally posted by DaveShack


Well, I did my part by saying over in the Presidential thread that I'd be willing to serve if appointed.

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Sorry, I didn't see that. You're appointed.

Originally posted by ravensfire
Please conduct a Judicial Review of a Proposed Law on this proposal.

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This JR is accepted as Judicial Review - Term 4 - Request 2.

In what order will the court be handling the backlog of cases?

I wouldn't be surprised if this demogame were over before the backlog was finished. :/

Originally posted by donsig
In what order will the court be handling the backlog of cases?

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One way to get movement on outstanding cases is to raise the court's awareness of such cases, by pointing out specific ones you want to see addressed as a priorities.

Our plan is to handle the outstanding cases in the order in which they were filed. I would also like to handle JR's of proposed laws concurrently.

I have updated the second post in this thread with what I believe are all the open cases from prior terms. If you notice one missing, or one on the list that has already been closed, please let me know.