New Money?

Armydude · Apr 19, 2004

How about getting rid of gold as the money? its fine and all in the ealier eras, but how about in the later ones? No one uses gold as currency anymore. They use bills and coins.
I also find it hard to believe that modern civs(in the game) only take in 500 gold a year (just an example) Instead, how about dollars or something so your civ brings in 500 billion dollars a year instead of 500 gold? This is prolly a horrible idea, but i just though i'd see what you guys think.

Shyrramar · Apr 19, 2004

It's not a "horrible" idea

Don't berate yourself like that! :lol:

I just think that there is no actual need for this. The numbers would in later eras become so astronomical that no one could grasp them. And it wouldn't take long for someone to complain why the money should be dollars/euros/yenis/whatevers instead of <insert a currency>. Gold is fine by me, even though 500 gold does seem a bit low for a modern day superpower

shr00mz · Apr 19, 2004

i ussually have 1000+ gpt.. but i just immagine that that are billions of whatever currency.. well nothing is perfect.. even civilization cant be

wisewoods · Jul 31, 2004

What's wrong with gold...There is no universal money today...dollars or euros are not used everywhere (asia, afric, etc.a)...gold is ok...it serves its purpose..

Trade-peror · Jul 31, 2004

This appears to be more of a matter of technicality, with the question being whether gold is the correct label, and whether the units of currency should be larger. If that is true, then this is not that important in terms of gameplay, so I suspect the developers may not decide to bother with this.

However, if you are suggesting a different medium of exchange than gold, or differences in the transfer of money, then that would be completely different...

Ian Beale · Aug 1, 2004

I like the idea of each country having a currency. This would mean that if you were the Americans gold would be in Dollars and if you were Germany it would be in Euros. This is only a very minor issue, but in my opinion would improve the game- perhaps it could be an option in the editor.

kaoruchan · Aug 1, 2004

First of all, Germany's currency should be Marks, not Euros. Euros only began to bbe used in Germany in 2001. But that is beside the point. Throughout most of human history, all currencies were based on gold. It was only in modern times that people began to separate currency value from a gold base, and that was only because income had begun to outstrip gold production levels, so gold was no longer valuable enough to be used as a currency standard. I think that gold should remain as the standard of currency in CIV. If you really care that much, just use your imagination.

sir_schwick · Aug 1, 2004

My THoughts:
What about before you had currency measured against gold? And what if you didn't have gold? If you don't have gold, then silver would be the standard. No silver, then other luxuries. This would be minor, but you could be having currency in terms of Furs instead of Gold. All countries would use their unique currency standard until someone develops enough banks that their currency standard is all theiir neighbors currency standards.

KabeDerlin · Aug 2, 2004

Not to mention that currency nowadays is still backed by gold. So you could say Gold is still the universal currency... Though forgive me I understand very little of economics.

Lennon · Aug 2, 2004

I really don't see the point in removing gold as Civ currency. It's just there to simplify matters and act as a reference to the current economic situation. The one reason to include separate currencies would be stock exchange and interest and all that stuff, but that might also cause the game to become too economically complicated. But hey, I'm all for more complicated warfare and wouldn't mind seeing more complicated economy too, to me it'd make the game more interesting. Then again that probably doesn't necessarily make a bestselling game. But different currencies just for the cosmetic sake of it doesn't appeal to me at all.

Waiguo_Chaoren · Aug 2, 2004

Ingots of the purest Greeeeeen...

thescaryworker · Aug 8, 2004

what about if they had an option in the preferences screen that let you choose your currency (dollars, euros, marks, gold, pounds, ect.).

:crazyeye:

wouldn't that make this arugment much easier to end? :crazyeye:

sir_schwick · Aug 9, 2004

thescaryworker said:
what about if they had an option in the preferences screen that let you choose your currency (dollars, euros, marks, gold, pounds, ect.).

wouldn't that make this arugment much easier to end?

I am really suprised this option does not exist already.

Colonel · Aug 9, 2004

You all do relize that gold is what backs are dollars, pounds, euros, marks and so forth so why does it matter and when countries on the goverment level buy and sell things there is usually a gold transfer

Gargantutron · Aug 9, 2004

no it doesnt. gold foundation or whatever it was called was abondoned before WW2 in most countries. before then every bill could be turn to bank and to get its value in pure gold. this was abandoned since no nation had (or has) enough gold to back that up. not even USA.

the money is given its value by the total value of the nations free market. or something like that. it is not based on gold or any metal or any resource you can actually touch with your hands.

sealman · Aug 9, 2004

all the currency in the world, be it dollars, euro, or yen is backed by gold and/or silver. paper currency (and coins) only have value because, theoretically, you can exchange the currency for actual gold. (Well it is not that simple but close enough)

Therefore, the use of gold in civ is fine.

toh6wy · Aug 9, 2004

I agree that gold is fine for use in Civ.
However, I find it pretty strange to be able to collect and spend gold before you research Currency. Maybe you can only collect and spend gold after you research it.

Babbler · Aug 9, 2004

Today, no major currency is backed by gold, (the gold standard), silver (the silver standard) or both (bimetalism). It is fiat money, valueable because the gov't said it is so.

And change the gold standard with civ is a bad idea. It may be unhistorical, but it more playable.

Colonel · Aug 9, 2004

Gargantutron said:
this was abandoned since no nation had (or has) enough gold to back that up. not even USA.

Um the US has enough gold to back every single dollar in circulation, They are required to have this because of some old law that has yet to be changed.

ozo · Aug 9, 2004

Colonel: I'm afraid that isn't the fact anymore. There isn't enough gold. All US Dollars used to be backed up with gold, but the law was changed.

EDIT:

http://tx.essortment.com/goldstandards_rgvh.htm said:
The U.S. and many other Western countries adhered to the gold standard
during the early 1900s. Today, however, golds role in the worldwide
monetary system is negligible. Britain abandoned the gold standard 1931;
the USA abandoned it 1971.

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