[Vote] (5-51) New Recon Line Promotion: Screening

[pineappledan]

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VP Congress: Session 5, Proposal 51

Proposal:
Add a new promotion for the Recon line:

Screening
Requires Survivalism III or Trailblazer III
Unit is Counted twice for Flanking bonuses.
+10% Flanking Bonus

Rationale
Essentially, the scout unit cant pick this promotion to get the a Skirmisher bonus
Recon units don't have a lot of promotions, and they could use a bonus for additional combat utility.

 

[ilikepickles]

how does this interact with the spanish Conquistador which gets Overrun? seems pretty absurd if you can get a 200%+ flanking bonus from 3 scouts

 

[pineappledan]

Units do not benefit from their own double counting, it only affects other units.
It would work the same as if a melee unit had overrun, and was attacking an enemy unit with 2 adjacent friendly units

The +10% flanking bonus would affect themselves though, so a Conquistador would have +35% flanking bonus. If it was attacking a unit that is being flanked by 2 other conquistadors with Screening, that would be equivalent to 4 normal units.

 

[Tekamthi]

imo recon will feel better if we load it up with debuffs and support abilities... must be done carefully though not to make human-only super weapons: this one seems mild enough to fit that paradigm

 

[pineappledan]

I can sponsor. double flanking was added as a promotion special ability a while back (credit to @Rekk for the heavy lifting on that)

 

[Tekamthi]

I was looking at this recently, I believe its tied to ExtraFlankPower in UnitPromotions table -- I think you'd have to enter value of 0.1 for 10% though not sure

 

[pineappledan]

This proposal would give ExtraFlankPower = 1 (like skirmisher doctrine) and FlankAttackModifier=10 (like shock)
They are two separate abilities.

 

[azum4roll]

I still wish we have a column that provides FlankAttackModifier to other flanking units. It'll make Encirclement more thematic.