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(7-87a) Rename Oxford University to Imperial College

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Counterproposal to:

Proposal: Oxford University National Wonder is renamed to Imperial College.

Rationale: Institute of Science reads too anachronistic for the medieval era.
 
Fair point about the era/name mismatch. What is an "Imperial college"? Could I have gone to multiple countries in the middle ages and found some kind of entity operating as an "Imperial college" on behalf of the government?

All I know is there's a famous Imperial college in London -- are we swapping one specific uk college name for another just down the road?

Maybe I'm thinking too literally, or just not informed enough about education in this period; would be nice to tie the name to some concrete historical concept if we're gonna get picky. Oxford has both civ franchise legacy and is era appropriate to it's irl history -- probably should be a world wonder really
 
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It's weird, right, because the thing Oxford University presumably represents is the "studium generale", that first set of medieval universities.
But it requires you already have built a university, and indeed have the ability to do so everywhere!
So perhaps it represents the first university (college) to actually be recognized by the state (imperial), which happened after these institutions were actually founded.
(fun fact, Cambridge received royal charter before Oxford for reasons I'm not familiar with -- its more than 100 years younger)
 
Another fun fact I stumbled across while thinking about this Oxford stuff... Oxford is not actually the oldest university, most say it was the university of Bologna -- lends credence to those who say university education is all a bunch of baloney

Edit: my amateur research on this topic, and the era in which it appears in game, suggest what is being represented is the emergence of empirical analysis and methodologies during this era... Or maybe their rise to prevalence rather than their emergence, but nonetheless the foundations of what would become known as the scientific method began to coalesce in a few different parts of the world around this time.

So maybe we need to move away from the building concept entirely, and give it name and description of some other kind of project. Like "empirical research methodologies", although not that, something more succinct but with that meaning
 
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Even if Imperial College is kinda specific to England, it's not as overtly specific as [CityName] University.

Let's not make perfect the enemy of good.
 
Before anyone commit to sponsor it, and its counterproposal, do you have any text in mind to replace the "Historical Info" in the Civilopedia? It's a bit self defeating to change the name, just for the Civilopedia to keep talking about Oxford.


Nothing that chatGPT can't do.

Spoiler text :
The origins of higher education institutions span the globe and are deeply intertwined with the cultural, intellectual, and historical developments of various civilizations. In ancient civilizations such as Mesopotamia, Egypt, and China, centers of learning emerged to transmit essential knowledge and skills. For instance, Mesopotamian schools trained scribes in writing and record-keeping as early as 3200 BCE, while Egyptian temple schools provided instruction in hieroglyphic writing and religious rituals. In China, academies like the Imperial Academy (Taixue) and the Hanlin Academy focused on Confucian classics and political theory, training scholars and officials from around 200 BCE onwards.

Ancient Greece saw the establishment of philosophical schools like the Academy of Plato and the Lyceum of Aristotle, where critical thinking, debate, and the pursuit of knowledge flourished around the 4th century BCE. Similarly, in ancient India, renowned centers of learning such as Takshashila and Nalanda attracted scholars and students from across Asia, offering instruction in diverse subjects including philosophy, mathematics, medicine, and Buddhist studies from around the 5th century BCE onwards. These early institutions played a crucial role in the transmission and preservation of knowledge, laying the foundation for organized systems of education that would develop in later centuries.

In the Islamic world, institutions such as the House of Wisdom in Baghdad during the Abbasid Caliphate fostered scholarship and scientific advancement. Founded in the 9th century, the House of Wisdom translated works from Greek, Persian, and Indian sources into Arabic, contributing to the preservation and dissemination of knowledge in fields ranging from mathematics and astronomy to medicine and philosophy. Similarly, the Al-Qarawiyyin University in Fez, Morocco, established in the 9th century, is recognized as one of the oldest continuously operating universities in the world, emphasizing a wide range of disciplines including Islamic studies, law, and natural sciences.

During the Middle Ages, the concept of the university as a formalized institution began to take shape in Europe. Cathedral schools and monasteries served as early centers of learning, where theology, Latin, and the liberal arts were taught. The University of Bologna, founded in 1088, emerged as one of the earliest universities in Europe, specializing in Roman law. Other medieval universities, such as the University of Paris (founded around 1150) and Oxford University (founded in the 12th century), followed suit, each contributing to the expansion and diversification of higher education across the continent. These institutions became hubs of intellectual inquiry, shaping the course of Western scholarship and influencing educational practices worldwide.
 
More specific to what we're trying to achieve here:
The earliest universities emerged spontaneously as a scholastic Guild, whether of Masters or Students, without any express authorization of King, Pope, Prince or Prelate.

However, in many cases, universities petitioned secular power for privileges. Emperor Frederick I in Authentica Habita (1158) gave the first privileges to students in Bologna. Another step was Pope Alexander III in 1179 requiring that masters of church schools give license to properly qualified teachers and forbidding them from charging for it. The integrity of a university was only preserved in such an internally regulated corporation, which protected the scholars from external intervention. This independently evolving organization was absent in the universities of southern Italy and Spain, which served the bureaucratic needs of monarchs, and were therefore their artificial creations.

The University of Paris was formally recognized when Pope Gregory IX issued the bull Parens scientiarum (1231). This was a revolutionary step: studium generale (university) and universitas (corporation of students or teachers) existed even before, but after the issuing of the bull, they attained autonomy. The papal bull of 1233 stipulated that anyone admitted as a teacher in Toulouse had the right to teach everywhere without further examinations. In time, this privelege became the single most important defining characteristic of the university and made it the symbol of its institutional autonomy. By the year 1292, even the two oldest universities, Bologna and Paris, felt the need to seek similar bulls from Pope Nicholas IV.

The development of the medieval university coincided with the widespread reintroduction of Aristotle from Byzantine and Arab scholars. In fact, the European university put Aristotelian and other natural science texts at the center of its curriculum, with the result that the medieval university laid far greater emphasis on science than its modern counterpart.
 
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I can sponsor this then apply any civilopedia text you want (if vote passes).
 
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