Against All Odds: The Struggles of the Noyyau

The Czech and the Latvians are not at war with each other at the moment.

Also, I forgot to mention that while playing these last turns I had updated the mod to rev 962.

I could upload the Noyyau civ if you're interested, it works with AND's Megacivpack so you just drop the Noyyau folder among the other extra civs.

I'm debating with myself whether to upload the save or not. Probably I might do it after the situation has been resolved.

For the RP stuff, do whatever you like best! Anything is possible, I'll try to accomodate any wishes as best as possible.


Well I would like everything you customized so I can take the best decisions. So what's needed is: RAND 962, Megacivpack, get your Noyyau civ and I believe you have changed some game options, I would like those too. If you know exactly what you changed just upload the approriate files together with the Noyyau civ.
 
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Sombeh's family had been in the service of the venerable Dandolos for generations, even before the emigration to Robertia. Like his father and his father's father, Sombeh was a hunter and a gamekeeper, providing a weekly quota of fresh meat for the high caste Dandolo family, and keeping for himself and his wife whatever else he could catch.
Life was not always easy, with predators roaming the forests, and the occasional raider attack, but it was simple and understandable.

Then everything changed.

Matriarch Tandi herself, a woman so old and frail that Sombeh was sure was still alive only through sheer orneriness, had called him and several other woodsmen to inform them that, from that day, they would be given war axes and sent ranging towards the forests of Latvia.
Sombeh had heard tales of that faraway place, and had even talked with some of the First Axemen that had returned from a long raiding campaign against those foreigners. If even half of what the Axemen had told were true, he did not appreciate the Matriarch's idea, not at all.
Masses of disciplined Archers that loosed volleys that darkened the skies, warriors riding into battle on top of “horses” (he wasn't sure what a horse was, exactly, but it definitely was some kind of horrible beast), all speaking a language that did not sound any better than the desert raiders' gibberish. The only thing that kept him from leaving that day was the promise that his wife would be provided for, and their child when it would be born.

Two weeks out of Robertia, they had encountered a Czech scouting party, that politely told them that they were infringing upon newly settled Czech territory, and to please not kill them, thankyouverymuch. Sombeh had no intention to kill anybody, really, though he was not an idealist. He very well knew that it would have to happen, sooner or later.
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And the next day his fears materialized in the worst way possible.

They had passed the night camped in the old ruins of Belgrade, wild animals being the only threat they expected so close to home.
But when the morning mist faded, Sombeh caught a glimpse of movement in the woods across the bay, exactly in the direction they were supposed to go.
Hoping it was just some kind of mirage, as the desert people called strange illusions over the sands, Sombeh asked his fellow Axemen to have a look as well.
Unfortunately, everybody saw the same thing: definite movement among the trees, in a wide stretch of forest near the coast. And then, a fearsome sight. Hundreds of animals, most with a man sitting on their back, moved out of the forest towards a nearby river.
Sombeh knew that, for all their stealth and bravery, he and his fellow Axemen would never be able to stop so many foes. He thought of the other cohorts of Axemen and Spearmen that the Matriarch had promised would soon follow them.
He had a feeling that, on open ground, nothing could resist such a massive force. But they could sneak close enough, try to estimate the actual size of the enemy host, and disappear to report before the Latvians would ever notice them.
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Block the stack with woodsman promoted axes behind a river.

E
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A



Enemy=E
Axes=A

Also make sure those woodsman axes are on a forest.



Quick question- what are your production capabilities and how much experience does your troops come out of the gate with?
 
Detailed terrain info along the coast (if the Latvian stack is coming for us, the shortest way is to follow the coastline).
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Our units in the area at the moment are 2 Axemen and 2 Spearmen. All have Woodsman 2, 1 Axe has Woodsman 3, all the others have Combat 1.
On this turn, only 1 Axe and 1 Spear can reach the forest next to the Latvian stack.
They could make a stand there, but will definitely die and kill maybe 1 or 2 enemy units at most, if we're lucky. The Latvians also have 5 Catapults in that stack, and those will Range Bombard, a minimum of 2 will hit and do around 10% damage each to a single unit.
(For the stack composition, see my post with the first spotting of said stack)

The King would not be happy to send our men to a sure death without any benefit for the Kingdom.

Noyyau and Robertia can train Archers in 1 turn (Monarchy gives a bonus to their production) and Axemen and Spearmen in 2 turns. Actually Robertia will train 2 Axemen in 3 turns.
Fiamma could train Archers in 2 turns and Spears and Axes in 4 turns, but it should keep building up infrastructure for now.
Noyyau units receive no experience, Robertian Melee units get 11 XP, Archery 8 XP (4 settled Generals and a Barracks). Since we are Charismatic, that's 3 promotions for each unit. Robertia also has a Taoist Monastery, which gives the Martial Arts free promotion to Melee units (+15% Str vs Melee, +5% Str vs Archery, not really useful against Mounted and Siege unfortunately).

Good tiles to garrison seem the Hill Forest and the Grassland Forest near Robertia. Or Robertia itself, if the Latvians get there.

Mounted units have a bonus when attacking flatlands, but get a malus when attacking forests and cities.

Magnus (the Latvian leader) is not refusing to talk, so there is also the possibility to ask for a cease fire.
 
I'd suggest garrisoning the grassland forest to get the bonus for defending behind a river, and depending on how the battle goes sue for peace if he still has a stack or don't if he doesn't.

Wait- is there any benefit to remaining at war with the Latvians? If there isn't just sue for peace, and if a reason comes up, let's go to war then with more troops and be better prepared that time.
 
Noyyau said:
the worst is that a sizeable Latvian stack is moving towards our territory, composed of 8 Horse Archers, 8 Chariots, and 5 Catapults.

What else could we train that aren't spearmen? My King, If Spears are a Horseman's worst enemy, then we should train as most spearmen as we can now, and for the defense plan, well, that'll be pretty hard. Unless we have half their stack in unit numbers, we are doomed. I fear this will have to be a defensive war.

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If I could see the game, then... :rolleyes:


Any hope to make peace is understandable, unless a city is asked.
 
The King listened in silence while the Noyyau nobility expressed their opinion.
Then he rose, and so spoke: "Your advice is sound, my fellow Noyyau, and shall be heeded. New cohorts of Spearmen will be formed to stand against the coming Latvians. Should the spirits grant us victory, we will then try to agree to a temporary truce, from a position of power. It would be problematic to allow them to expand towards our own lands uncontested, but we shall not ask for peace now, as we should not give the impression of being scared by their warriors, no matter their number!"
 
We must stay on the defensive. I support the building of spears. We must attack them first though, for we cannot let their catapults decimate our ranks.
 
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It felt like they had been marching forever.
The day after having spotted the Latvians, the Cohort commander decided to return to Robertia, as the Latvians had begun moving and were coming towards them.
On the way, a messenger from the King confirmed the decision, bearing orders to make a stand at the Steyr river woods, not far from Robertia.
Sombeh thought that at least he would die close to home, in his familiar hunting grounds.
Maybe he'd even have a chance to see his wife again, one last time.

For two weeks, Sombeh's fellow Axemen and Spearmen marched in silence, meeting up with other cohorts, also retreating. The Latvians knew where they were, but never broke formation or made any attempt to charge forward on those horses of theirs. They probably knew the Noyyau had no hope of stopping them, anyway.
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Meanwhile, in Noyyau, a scribe invented a more practical writing system, using a sign for each sound, then composed to form words, rather that a different sign for each word.
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While in the east doom approached on land, in the Noyyau Bay the spirits decided the time had come to punish the ship that had defied them in the past.
Aware of the presence of a Latvian vessel along the coast, the King ordered to quickly construct a replacement Galley, using all available resources. The crew was mostly made up of slaves and convicts, all of them painfully aware of their slim chances of survival.
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The night they made camp in the Steyr woods, Sombeh was thinking of his wife, but it was another familiar voice that distracted him from his daydream.
“Brother! I finally found you!”
“Brigg? What are you doing here?” Sombeh's younger brother was just a boy in his eyes, full of youthful energy and impatient to prove himself to the world. “What is that... thing?”
“It's called a Sword!” replied Briggs with enthusiasm, handing the weapon to his brother. “Cool, huh? It's entirely made of copper, and way better than that unwieldy Axe you're lugging around!”
Sombeh made a few swings with the sword, before returning it. “It does seem quite light and maneuverable, but... why do you have it? Why are you here Brigg? We're about to be attacked!”
A grin appeared on Brigg's face. “You're almost right, big brother. But it's US that are going to attack THEM first!”

The newly formed first cohort of Swordsmen, eager to prove their worth in the eyes of their fellow Noyyau, staged a nocturnal raid against the Latvian camp. The First Axes closely followed them, partly to support them and partly to recover any lost sword, before it fell into Latvian hands. Despite the risks and the losses, the attack was successful, and the Noyyau learned that, when taken by surprise, cavalry was not as effective as when charging.
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The ragtag crew of the Gods Unwilling stoood no chance against the seasoned Latvian sailors. They did manage to damage the enemy vessel, but not enough to prevent the sinking of the local fishing fleet.
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The nocturnal raid, despite its success, did little to the main body of the Latvian host. The invaders ignored the Noyyau camped in the forest, and moved directly towards Robertia.
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Their morale high from the night's victory, the First Swordsmen moved against the Latvians once more, this time catching the crews transporting a strange wooden contraption. The Latvian cavalry quickly intervened, chasing away the Noyyau and inflicting severe casualties, but not before several of the siege machines had been smashed into useless piles of firewood.
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A second Galley, also crewed with “expendable manpower”, was sent to harass the damaged Latvian vessel. Driven by the promise of freedom and a strong sense of self preservation, the convicts managed to overpower the exhausted Latvian sailors and captured their ship.
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Despite the impending battle, Sombeh was happy. He had finally been reunited his wife, now visibly pregnant, that had escaped their cottage to find safety inside the city walls.
Brigg had survived both of the First Swordsmen's raids, but had been seriously injured. An arrow had pierced his left leg, and he lay unconscious, the shaman unsure if he would ever wake up again. “He is in the realm of the spirits now, and it is up to him to find a benevolent one to help him heal such a grave injury.” Sombeh did not find the shaman's words particularly reassuring.
When the horn called for all warriors to assemble, Sombeh gave his wife one last kiss and returned to Robertia's main square, crowded with hundreds of Noyyau warriors, armed with all the weapons available. How many of these mostly young and inexperienced soldiers would die, before the end of the day?

The Latvian approach was felt by everyone, the ground vibrating under the hooves of hundreds, if not thousands, of horses. It was a terrifying sight to behold, but the Robertian defenders did not abandon their posts. Before the dreaded cavalry charge, however, the Latvians sent forward their strange wooden machines, which began launching heavy stones towards the city. The archers on the walls and the First Axes, behind the main gate, suffered the heaviest casualties.
Then the Latvian Horse Archers moved forward, picking up speed and circling the city walls, waiting for the Catapults to create a breach in the fortifications. It did not take long for a section of the mud brick walls to collapse, and the Latvians poured in.
The Noyyau defenders used every corner and every wall to their advantage, teams of Spearmen emerging suddenly from houses and barns and overwhelming the Latvian riders, only to be trampled under the hooves of more horses and felled by the constant rain of arrows.
Other sections of the city walls fell under the constant bombardment, and the fighting soon was everywhere.
Sombeh lost the perception of time, his mind seeing only the enemy in front of him, his heart giving him the strength to keep swinging his Axe, kill or be killed, stop the invaders or the love of your life will die, or worse.
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The bloodbath continued for most of the day. The surviving Latvians finally retreated only at dusk, leaving more than half their number on the streets of Robertia, dead or mortally wounded.
The Noyyau defenders also suffered heavy casualties, the Spearmen especially.
Sombeh somehow staggered back to the shaman's hut, his legs giving way only when he saw his wife, safe and healthy. She was helping the shaman tending the injured, along with several other local women. When she spotted him, she cried something and ran to him, but by then Sombeh had already lost consciousness.
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Gameplay notes:
That went better than expected!

Apparently Light Swordsmen :)strength: 7) can be made with Copper as well as Iron, but I had forgotten about that. However, they're almost double the cost compared to Spearmen, so I set Robertia to train an even mix of them.

The AI isn't completely stupid, as the Latvians outright ignored the stack camped in the forest and went straight for the city.
However, they could have done more (collateral) damage if they attacked directly with the catapults, instead of range bombarding. In fact, I'm now having second thoughts about using this option.
Luckily for us, the Latvians don't seem to have any metals, so they sent no Axemen or Swordsmen along with the Mounted units, and those have a tough time attacking Spearmen inside a walled city.

After the battle, a cadre of Axemen was sent to investigate the Latvian camp. The surviving invaders offered stiff resistance, but seemed aware that their invasion was over, and did not spend too much effort in protecting their now useless war machines.
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While the fate of Robertia was being decided in the north, down south Noyyau troops kept plundering the defenseless Iranians.
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After an almost endless forced march, Cid Raynor's Warriors finally reached Robertia, recalled from Iran to help fight off the invaders. To their dismay, they arrived only to see the Latvians retreating.
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Following the retreating Latvian survivors, Cid Raynor's Warriors led the final attack. No one was spared. In the following years, rumors would circulate that the Robertian fields were particularly fertile due to all the blood that had been spilled in the area.
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After the complete eradication of the Latvian expedition, a messenger from the would-be invaders brought a peace proposal: King Magnus was willing to offer a tribute in gold, if the Noyyau would agree to cease hostilities.

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After the immediate danger has been resolved, the King once again turns to the members of the high caste for counsel.

The first question is, of course, what to do with the Latvians. Their invasion has been repelled, and we now have several military units at our disposal.
Should we accept their peace proposal? They offer a nice sum of gold, however we do not need it that much at this moment, and even though we are having a small deficit, the income from the plundering of Iran helps keep our economy afloat.
If we do not make peace, we could send some of our units north into the forests to contain their expansion towards our borders (as was the original intention when the invading stack was spotted).

The second question is about the Czech: Should we declare war on them and raze their new settlement near Robertia?
It might be prudent to send a scouting party first, to determine their defenses and military presence in the area.
If we send troops to contain the Latvians, on the way they could also hit the Czech and engage their counterattack.

Meanwhile, an expedition to settle a city west of Noyyau, to gain control of Iron and Horses, is currently being organized in Noyyau, its poorest inhabitants more than willing to emigrate for a chance at a better life.
 
Destroy the Czechs and attack the Latvians! Noyyau is not to be messed with!
 
I agree with a scouting expedition before dedicating troops for the Czech threat. If they have horses we send spears to deal with those. If they have archers or javeliners or spear men, then axes. If they've got swords already, then we curse our luck and leave the settlement alone. Also, I believe we should recall forces from Iran to deal with more immediate threats. Iran can be beaten down later. For the Latvians, it would be better to choke them like we are doing with Iran. We should find their horses and burn them down.
 
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An independent city state was discovered to the south east of Fiamma, after the construction of a fort to claim control of the area. A Javelineer cohort was outfitted with more effective spears and sent to the area, just in case.
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The pillaging expedition in Iran ran into some resistance near Tehran. They retreated to an easily defensible forested hill to regroup, pursued by an Iranian expedition.
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The First Axes made a foray into the inhospitable desert to climb a hill and have a look at the Czech settlement without being discovered. As soon as the (lack of) Czech military force was evaluated, runners relayed the order to attack to all the Noyyau troops gathered in the forest.
Plzen fell with minimal Noyyau casualties.
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Some scribes with too much time on their hands began writing down pretty much anything, including the ancient tales of the spirits and the deeds of ancient Noyyau heroes.
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Moving north, the Noyyau expedition encountered an unlucky Czech scouting party.
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Cid Raynor's Warriors and the First Axes split from the rest of the expedition and moved east, towards where they thought the rest of the Czech nation lay. No Noyyau had been in these lands for generations. What dangers lurked ahead?
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It seemed that the danger was only for the Czech, who were completely unprepared for a sudden attack. Noyyau's most elite warriors roamed the Czech territory and no one could stop them.
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The expedition reached Latvian lands and scattered the local Latvian Fur trappers.
Unexpectedly, the Latvian response was swift and deadly.
Many veterans of the battle of Robertia found themselves overwhelmed by more Latvians than they thought could exist. No one made it out alive.
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Ringhio was founded on the banks of the Minimi river, to claim, in time, several resources, including Iron mines, Horse herds, and a Marble quarry.
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A Latvian vessel followed the coast and encountered the recently established Robertian fishing fleet, protected by the same Latvian galley recently captured in the Noyyau Gulf, now crewed by the worst the Noyyau lower castes had to offer. The lowlifes tried to escape the engagement, but their inexperience only made them easy prey for the Latvians.
The sudden lack of fresh Fish put a dent in Robertia's food stores, so a more disciplined crew was quickly recruited and sent to fight on a hastily cobbled Galley. Against expectations, not only did they sink the Latvian pirates, they even sank the ex-Noyyau ex-Latvian Galley, that after changing hands twice, found its resting place on the bottom of the Robertian Bay.
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The Noyyau advance in the east reached the shores of the eastern great sea.
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The Noyyau troops looking for their disappeared comrades spotted the likely reason of their sudden demise: a large formation of disciplined Latvian Archers, patrolling the woods.
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An Iranian group of migrants was spotted by chance near the ruins of a previous Iranian settlement. It seemed that history would soon repeat itself.

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Ringhio?
Gattuso? :lol:
 
This is getting intense. Well done Noyyau, this wasn't an easy task right there.

I'm really curious about how much of the map you discovered up to now. If you go max zoom out before going to globe view, and press Alt+o, the screen becomes flat, and you may take several screenshots and then connect them in an image program like PS. I did that to a MP I'm playing, but due to confidential content the other players can't see, I can't show it to you as an example here :p
 
Ringhio?
Gattuso? :lol:

Actually it's a friend's nickname (he is quite temperamental... :rolleyes:)

This is getting intense. Well done Noyyau, this wasn't an easy task right there.

I'm really curious about how much of the map you discovered up to now. If you go max zoom out before going to globe view, and press Alt+o, the screen becomes flat, and you may take several screenshots and then connect them in an image program like PS. I did that to a MP I'm playing, but due to confidential content the other players can't see, I can't show it to you as an example here :p

The noble Spirictum is commissioning a map? I shall order the scribes to work on it!
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What do those nicknames mean?
 
"Ringhio" is italian for "Growl".
 
By order of the noble House of Spirictum, a map of the known world has been compiled from countless tales of travels and combat.
The humble scribe Obsequious hopes to have pleased his lords.

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