AI suffers Unit Strike too?

Frimlin

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I've played hundreds of Civ4 games and about 20 BtS ones, and this is the first time I've seen this so I thought I'd share the experience. :)

A custom game: Standard size, Marathon speed, 8 opponents (1 more than default), Hemispheres, Prince difficulty. I chose unrestricted leaders, including Asoka of Ethiopia, Brennus of France and I was Elizabeth of Babylon. Thinking I'd probably need a bit more of a problem to deal with, I also added Genghis Khan of the Maya.

My capital seemed to be in a decent spot. Not the best I've had recently, but seemingly good enough. A brief scout south and I found a very long river through a desert, and a gob-smackingly gorgeous excess of flood plains. Any doubts I had about my initial starting point quickly vanished.

So I planned ahead, with at least 4 if not 5 cities that I could build along this great river. Soon though, my scouting warrior stumbled across another civilization. I was glad we weren't alone on this great continent, so we could trade techs and share religions. But my brief moment of pleasure was soon over, when I was confronted by the face of Genghis Khan.

I was mortified. I knew that unless I made a considerable effort on building up an early defence force, I would easily fall to his vast horde -- irrespective of how many great cities I built on the long and fertile river.

Soon we signed an Open Borders agreement. I wasn't sure it was the best idea, but figured I'd better go along with it and not give him any reason to be mad at me. I quickly regretted it -- he sent at least a couple of scouts and Holkans into my territory and just ran about madly. Reminded me a bit of vultures circling a carcass. I was very worried, as not all my cities had decent defence in them yet. A good half of them had only one warrior!

So I specialised two cities as military production cities, and pumped out loads of Babylonian Bowmen, Spearmen and other early units. Soon I felt my cities were looking pretty good. I sent a scout out, who soon showed me that Genghis had covered the entire southern half of our continent, and had even planted one city on my great river -- thus denying me the spot! I was livid, but still rather worried...

It took a while to build up the Espionage points. Was about 1300 AD or so when I realised why I hadn't seen the expected invasion...

...from what I can see, he suffered a Unit Strike. None of his cities have more than 1 defender. Everytime he makes a unit, it dies the next turn from, I'm pretty sure, the effects of a Unit Strike.

So he's a sitting duck. I've made contact with Asoka and Brennus now, and they're both at least double my score. As I've been so intent on keeping defended, I've been somewhat left behind in my race to victory.

He's Friendly with me. I sent a Taoist Missionary to his capital and so he's a brother of the faith. He's really not causing me any harm, but in his Unit Strike state, he's a sleeping giant. Give him Courthouses and Markets...etc and he'd wake up, posing the threat I'd been expecting.

So all I can think of now is invading him. My army is mobilised and at his border, ready to pounce. The only thing I fear is expanding too fast, and getting Unit Strike myself! ;)

I had no idea the AI could get Unit Strike and grind to a halt. Has this been seen before? It is completely new to me, and like I said I've played hundreds of Civ4 games and already about 20 BtS ones.
 
Corp spam+enviromentalism (either through UN or spies)=strike for most AIs (if not gifting them all your corp resources and destoying a couple of courthouses will do the trick). And they'll just keep building more units instead of wealth most of the time too.
 
A bit too early for that. ;)

As an update, I took over his entire territory. He hadn't even built ONE cottage! And that, combined with no research into commerce techs, meant he was on a doomed path.

I really want to know, has anyone else had a civ unit strike and die out so early in the game like this? I've never ever seen it. He had no chance. Has anyone else seen Genghis in particular die out like this? I can only imagine he had all his thoughts on unit production and not one thought about developing the economy he needed to support such unit production.

Bug?
 
I can only imagine he didn't think at all because he fell victim to a major AI bug.
 
Yeah, the new AI is weird... I suspected there was an element of randomness to it, and suspect so even further after reading Blake's posts. It seems to me that each AI civ makes an effort to undertake a certain "strategy" at some early point in the game. The AI civs that get an early religion, for example, seem to adopt a strategy of going for a cultural victory. The element of randomness also seems to fold over and make a given AI civ either really smart or really stupid, but I think the "really stupid" AIs are probably a bug.

I think that having extremely stupid AIs in the game is actually a benefit, because it allows for the AIs that aren't stupid (whether it's because of a bug or because of intended randomness) to assimilate the ******ed and make a more formidable empire, instead of having all of the AI progress at about the same rate. It's nice to see that an AI that just happened to have two stupid neighbors in which they've conquered (historicly accurate, no?) to be beating you in points, power, techs, or all of the above at any given point in the game, provided you play somewhere near your difficulty level.

Think about all the stupid military blunders that we know about from History. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Both Napolean and Hitler invaded Russia. The Roman Empire fell to barbarians due to lack of management (unit strike?), Xerxes suicided a million troops into Thermopolyae pass. Would the Roman Empire even have been an empire if it didn't have any stupid neighbors with which to conquer?

I think its great that the computer "takes chances" now, ie: trying to outtech you while risking an era or two of weak defense in it's cities. Cookie-cutter AI is boring, even if its more difficult to beat. I'm just jacking up my difficulty level is all....
 
Agreed. I think it is good that the AI can really screw up this time... I guess in that way, my situation with Genghis was kinda like me playing against a human player -- albeit an inexperienced one.

I just wish I had realised he had unit striked earlier, then I could have invaded much earlier and actually got somewhere because of it. As it is, I've pretty much decided to end this game now. Asoka, Brennus and others are so far ahead of me now, there's little I can do to stop them.

I took all Genghis' cities, and renamed them all to match my civilization. I started spamming cottages all the squares he left undeveloped, and every city was building a much needed courthouse. Everything was going well, but then I noticed Asoka had made colonies on the coast between my original lands and the conquered Mayan lands... and then Brennus declared war, and dropped a stack of Riflemen and Grenadiers right next to the ex-Mayan lands. Because I never had a decent early tech trade partner, the Longbowmen I had garrisoned in the ex-Mayan cities melted like butter to his advance.

Bah! Retire time. ;)
 
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