Darius

Ormylar

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I've been playing Monarch level for a while now and managed to win many times with most civs. However, I'm unable to play as well with Darius of Persia (Darius is Financial/Organized).

I usually start off with building 2 workers, then 2-3 settlers while workers chop forest. I go for Mining, then Bronze Working, then Wheel, then Pottery, then Animal Husbandry. From there, my path splits to Writing or Mysticism (Meditation, Priesthood).

I've always played like this (or something very similar) and yet, with other civs, I do very well, but with Darius, not so much. It seems that whenever I play as Darius, I don't get much forest, but with everyone else, I do.

If anyone has anytips, please feel free to post them. Thanks.
 
Use his immortals to expand like crazy and then use his traits to regain some semblance of an economy. After not too long, you'll start to run away on tech because your immortals grabbed so much land
 
With Persia, you get the best of the financial worlds - the early benefit of reduced city maintenance costs and the long term benefit of the financial trait. Spam cottages and expand like crazy. Settle near gold producing recources and head for Calendar and Currency. You should be raking in the dough and be able to support a significantly large empire very early. Immortals are great early expansion units if you have civs too close to allow you to REX effectively without war.
 
I posted a game as Darius (check my signature). I didn't really REX but I used immortals a lot...the key is to utilizing them so you gain a lot of land and then with the 2 nice traits economic recovery will come fast.

I read your game about Darius- I've learned a lot! The only problem is that you may end up with no horses around you or some every far away. Otherwise, that type of strategy works. My only question is that what is this BUG mode?
 
Bts Unaltered Gameplay is a mod. It gives you a ton of extra information each turn to help with micromanangement but otherwise doesn't change the game.
 
Very hard to understand how you can be consistent on Monarch except with Darius when as a recent post on the subject suggests he is one of the best leaders even if you don't have horses. Could just be a luck thing. I know I have games where I do my usual but seem to get trounced and sometimes am realy not sure what went wrong.

Are you perhaps an SE type player and a builder who doesn't prioritise the land grab in which case his traits are not being made the most of. I still lose intermittently on Monarch, though never as Darius, so am not really one to talk but your early tech path seems a bit formulaic, what is the early goal in that individual game and what early tech is most important. If you typically get pottery early then just Cottage and you should have no problems....
 
Rapid Expansion.

If only that one poster (whose name escapes me) with the sig telling posters not to ask what REX stands for saw this! I'm sure s/he'd have a fit! :p

You called? :)
 
Well, Darius is one of my favorites. The key is to get a horse as early as possible,(the first tech to research is 100% animal husbandry;)) then rush your nearest neighbors with the powerful immortals. It's easy to rush one civ with about 4 imms in monarch. Don’t built two many workers, grab some from your neighbors:cool:. As you take two neighbors down , it will be free to expand your empire. And don’t forget built your cottages alone the river bank to support your economy.
 
Darius and Huayna Capac and one of the Roman leaders are the easiest to paly with.
 
Very hard to understand how you can be consistent on Monarch except with Darius when as a recent post on the subject suggests he is one of the best leaders even if you don't have horses. Could just be a luck thing. I know I have games where I do my usual but seem to get trounced and sometimes am realy not sure what went wrong.

Are you perhaps an SE type player and a builder who doesn't prioritise the land grab in which case his traits are not being made the most of. I still lose intermittently on Monarch, though never as Darius, so am not really one to talk but your early tech path seems a bit formulaic, what is the early goal in that individual game and what early tech is most important. If you typically get pottery early then just Cottage and you should have no problems....

Sorry about this (I'm a bit new to Civ Fanatics) but what does SE stand for?
 
SE stands for specialist economy, ie using specialists (normally scientists and merchants) to power your research rather than lots of cottages.
 
Well REX with immortals does certainly help a lot. I tried like 7 different games but only 3 of them had horses near me. The other 4 were very far or I couldn't see any. Is there a Plan B if you don't have horses?
 
I've been playing Monarch level for a while now and managed to win many times with most civs. However, I'm unable to play as well with Darius of Persia (Darius is Financial/Organized).

I usually start off with building 2 workers, then 2-3 settlers while workers chop forest. I go for Mining, then Bronze Working, then Wheel, then Pottery, then Animal Husbandry. From there, my path splits to Writing or Mysticism (Meditation, Priesthood).

I've always played like this (or something very similar) and yet, with other civs, I do very well, but with Darius, not so much. It seems that whenever I play as Darius, I don't get much forest, but with everyone else, I do.

If anyone has anytips, please feel free to post them. Thanks.

For starters, let that capital grow a bit! producing 3 settlers whilst still size 1 is a big mistake.
 
For starters, let that capital grow a bit! producing 3 settlers whilst still size 1 is a big mistake.

I guess letting it grow is more for leaders who are NOT Imperialistic, right? I'm used to Imperialistic/Creative/Organized civs.
 
It's for everyone. A size two city can work twice as many tiles with twice as many hammers for half the production time (Actually not true do to the city tile but it's still faster). Not to mention potential extra commerce. I usually go warrior first to let the city grow then worker -> settler. Maybe if I start with mining and have a lot of forests I'll go worker -> worker -> settler. Never settler first.
 
Starting with a worker is good for everyone in the majority of circumstances.
I doubt there are many situations where its best to start off with 4-5 workers/settlers without growing.

Besides being inefficient (why build all the workers if you're not improving tiles to work? Chopping out forests for the settlers?), it has to be risky to send out three settlers with no warriors to accompany them, or are you playing with no Barbs? Even then, you've got 4 cities, no defense, crippling maintenance and only two workers?

I would think it would be better to improve a couple of tiles, work them, grow while building warriors/fishing boats/whatever, then chop/whip out your settlers rather than purely chop them out in pretty much every circumstances.
 
By the way, does anyone know how Darius is pronounced?

Is it Dairy us. Da RYE us. Something else?
 
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